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I wonder if the second buyer didn't have the money to pay for property so the first buyer paid cash and then financed and earned the interest on the loan on the property. That is about the only reason I can see. Sally Smith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of audrey barber Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROOTS-L] Double Escrow? I have moved to Wellsboro, PA to write a book about my paternal ancestors who lived here during the 1800s. I knew that they lived on Main St. and I have been trying to figure out from deeds etc. exactly which property they live on. I came across a deed that described a property that I identified and found that one of my ancestors had purchased that property on Oct.2, 1844 for $1200. and the same day sold it to someone else for the same price. I know it is the same property because I had a land surveyor figure it out in case I was wrong. Can anyone out there think of a reason that this would take place?  Audrey Sofield Barber [email protected] ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestor John Barton did the same thing in Randolph County, NC in 1778. Bought the land one day, sold it the next. Same price. It wasn't clear to me why - especially since he presumably didn't make any money off it if he was "flipping" it. I assume he was a straw buyer, and got some kind of incentive for acting as such "under the table." Barton Lewis On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 08:11 AM, audrey barber wrote: > I have moved to Wellsboro, PA to write a book about my paternal > ancestors who lived here during the 1800s. I knew that they lived on > Main St. and I have been trying to figure out from deeds etc. exactly > which property they live on. I came across a deed that described a > property that I identified and found that one of my ancestors had > purchased that property on Oct.2, 1844 for $1200. and the same day > sold it to someone else for the same price. I know it is the same > property because I had a land surveyor figure it out in case I was > wrong. Can anyone out there think of a reason that this would take > place? > Audrey Sofield Barber > [email protected] > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Searching for death notice of Blanche Sobczak nee Lewandowski Born Sept 1, 1896 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Died March 1979 in Waterford, Racine Co., Wisconsin Many thanks for your help Dee in Fl

I have moved to Wellsboro, PA to write a book about my paternal ancestors who lived here during the 1800s. I knew that they lived on Main St. and I have been trying to figure out from deeds etc. exactly which property they live on. I came across a deed that described a property that I identified and found that one of my ancestors had purchased that property on Oct.2, 1844 for $1200. and the same day sold it to someone else for the same price. I know it is the same property because I had a land surveyor figure it out in case I was wrong. Can anyone out there think of a reason that this would take place?  Audrey Sofield Barber [email protected]

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K96Q-JC1 Drew Smith On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:16 PM, CAROL GARBO <[email protected]> wrote: > Looking for my great-uncle and his family in the 1940 census; they are most likely in/near Weed, CA but could still be in Chicago, IL. > They are: Virgil Westray, B. 1907 in IL; his wife, Verna, b. abt 1912 in PA; their daughter, Marcella Mae, b. about 1925/1930, probably b. in IL > Thank you for any help. > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for my great-uncle and his family in the 1940 census; they are most likely in/near Weed, CA but could still be in Chicago, IL. They are: Virgil Westray, B. 1907 in IL; his wife, Verna, b. abt 1912 in PA; their daughter, Marcella Mae, b. about 1925/1930, probably b. in IL Thank you for any help.

Okay, thanks very much. Barton On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 01:05 PM, jhawkins wrote: > It's my understanding that the man who bought the land from the > soldier > was the new owner. Actually, I have seen it rune back through 2 or 3 > families naming the person who got the warrant originally. > If you had the money to pay for the passage of a person to the New > World, > you got a pice of land for that - another way to get land. > > Joan > ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:00 AM > Subject: ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 81 >

Another mystery for the Rooters to solve!! Am trying to locate descendants or genealogists tracing the family of George BECK who appears in the 1820 US Census, PA, York Co., Hopewell Twp. (Would like to ask about his children's names...Wife.... Could he have moved from Hopewell Twp. by the mid-1820's?) Could his original name have been John George BECK? Did he move to Manheim Twp., York Co., PA. by mid-1820's and become John BEKKER in 1826 in the following church record: Hinkle, William J.,(copier) Church Record of Emmanuel's Reformed Church Hanover, York County Pennsylvania. Vol. I. 1770---1856, pub. Aug 1939, p. 65:" . . . John Bekker (+ wife) Maria (child:) Christianna b. Febr. 7, 1826 bapt. July 30, 1826 (Witnesses:) Parents . . . " By the 1830 US Census, PA, York Co., Manheim Twp.it appears that his name was spelled John BECKER: "1830 US Census, PA, York Co., Manheim Twp. [No enumeration date given] Head: John Becker[.] Free White Persons---Males---5 thru 9: One[;] Free White Persons---Males---30 thru 39: One[;] Free White Persons---Females---Under 5: Two[;] Free White Persons---Females---5 thru 9: One[;] Free White Persons---Females---30 thru 39: One[;] Free White Persons --- Under 20: Four[;] Free White Persons---20 thru 49: Two[;] Total Free White Persons: Six[,] Total---All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): Six." My vitals for John BEKKER/BECKER (orig. name John George BECK?) are: born Between 1791---1800 in PA. (Place of Birth verified by known children who reported it during Census taking); Died 31 Dec 1838 and 01 Jun 1849 (most likely in PA.). His wife Maria AKA Mary appears in the 1850 US Census, PA, York Co., Manheim Twp.: Enumerated 18 Sep 1850. "Mary Becker, age 53, Occupation blank; Levi Becker, age 11." It appears that John George BECK AKA John BEKKER AKA John BECKER's first son was George; therefore, I am extrapolating that John BEKKER's original name was John George BECK , later GEORGE BECK (1820 US Census), then John BEKKER (church record 1826) then in 1830 US Census as John BECKER. His widow Mary BECKER was listed in an 1876 legal document as "Mary Baker (german name Becker)" , which does shed more light on the true surname. Her executor was her son George BECKER who began to use the name BAKER by the time he left home. He does not appear with his birth family in the 1830 US Census; therefore, my conjecture is that he was serving an apprenticeship in another household by 1830. Any leads would be appreciated. I do not know where the patriarch is buried. I found his wife Mary Baker buried in St. Emanuel's Union Church graveyard, Jefferson, North Codorus Twp, York Co., PA. There are many empty spots between graves however. Perhaps he was buried there? I still do not know her maiden name, birthplace. Whence did John's ancestors come here? A BECK/BEKKER/BECKER Bible from this era would also be helpful:) !!! Has anyone had luck looking up hardcopy Bibles at archives or historical societies??? Perhaps his ancestry will be in Lancaster Co. Historical Society records??? Laura Dague [email protected] Sincerely, Laura:)

I am trying to locate some relatives or descendants of family from Sweden. Gun & Ragner Westling from Mockfjard, Sweden. A known son is Per Anders Westling. Frederick Liss not sure of location could be in the US he had two known children Nana Liss married Sunar, unknown last name. Per Liss married Elizabeth. Relatives in the US are Matt Hedlund who is buried in Lemmon SD. Albin Theodor Hedlund married Blanch Evelyn Samuelson. 4 known children one is Darleen Hedlund Norton Holmes. I am researching this for my step mother I would appreciate any leads or information. I know there isn't much information listed but at this time this is all I have. Thank you, Linda

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Hello to the list, I come from "The HUNT 14" Line, from Esli Hunt, all the way down to those wonderful Hunt's that wound up in Mississippi - specifically Choctaw County. I have been researching this line, especially, since the early 1960's. I have much data on tons of people that are offshoots of this Hunt 14 line. I have also published a Family History website that now has people from 65 of the 196 countries around the world taking a look at it. If interested, take a look at www.onlinefamilynetwork.org And look into all the components of this website. Specifically, if you are interested in the GEDCOM Files, look into that area, You can either search all the files or just the HUNT 14 files. Happy Hunting. Allen Hunt, website founder.

It's my understanding that the man who bought the land from the soldier was the new owner. Actually, I have seen it rune back through 2 or 3 families naming the person who got the warrant originally. If you had the money to pay for the passage of a person to the New World, you got a pice of land for that - another way to get land. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:00 AM Subject: ROOTS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 81 If you respond to this digest, please replace the subject line of your response (so it doesn't read "Re: ROOTS-L Digest") and please don't quote the digest ... a few lines from the message to which you are responding or (better still) a brief summary of that message will do. Thanks! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Continental Bounties in Georgia (BARTON LEWIS) 2. Re: Continental Bounties in Georgia (BARTON LEWIS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:26:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BARTON LEWIS <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Continental Bounties in Georgia To: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> Cc: Web Roots <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Why were they bought? What was the benefit to the purchaser if the soldier still got the land? Was that the case - did the soldier still get the land? Thanks, Barton On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:05 AM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > the Continental warrants were bought and sold a lot during that time, > even in New York. > > Has to check each warrant as to their ranks in the military. The ranks > determine the acreage and check the deed books, too. > > Higher the rank, greater the acreage. > > David > > On 3/20/2014 10:02 PM, Barton Lewis wrote: >> Who knows how the continental land bounty system worked in Georgia >> after the >> Revolutionary War? Joseph Martin got a warrant to have measured out >> for him >> 1897 ? acres in Franklin County, Georgia on 2 Jan 1786 ?on the >> Continental >> Bounties? of 7 men, including William, John and Richard Bennett. What >> I am >> guessing is that these men may have sold their bounties to Martin for >> needed >> cash. But I?m not sure since the warrant lists the men and their >> share of >> the total acreage (230 acres apiece and another 287 ? acres for an >> 8th man). >> I am assuming they each got their land. What was Martin?s role? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Barton >> ===== >> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >> [email protected] and ask for the digest... >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: BARTON LEWIS <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Continental Bounties in Georgia To: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> Cc: Web Roots <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Thanks, I'll read about it. The funny thing is 2 of the men named in the warrant - brothers William & John Bennett - are the names of 2 men who later (after 1800) had land in the county. The warrant is dated 1786 in Franklin County, Georgia. The lack of records for them in the 1790s makes me wonder if they are the same men, if records don't exist for the 1790s, or or if they are the same men who just acquired land later. Any way to tell? Barton On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:58 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > Sometimes the soldier don't want the land and the Continental Congress > didn't have money to pay pensions, hence the bounty warrants the > soldier can sell to get $. > > This site explains what it is. > > http://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Revolutionary_War_Pension_Records_and_Bounty_Land_Warrants > > David > > On 3/21/2014 9:26 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >> Why were they bought? What was the benefit to the purchaser if the >> soldier still got the land? Was that the case - did the soldier still >> get the land? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Barton >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:05 AM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> >>> the Continental warrants were bought and sold a lot during that >>> time, >>> even in New York. >>> >>> Has to check each warrant as to their ranks in the military. The >>> ranks >>> determine the acreage and check the deed books, too. >>> >>> Higher the rank, greater the acreage. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On 3/20/2014 10:02 PM, Barton Lewis wrote: >>>> Who knows how the continental land bounty system worked in Georgia >>>> after the >>>> Revolutionary War? Joseph Martin got a warrant to have measured out >>>> for him >>>> 1897 ? acres in Franklin County, Georgia on 2 Jan 1786 ?on the >>>> Continental >>>> Bounties? of 7 men, including William, John and Richard Bennett. >>>> What >>>> I am >>>> guessing is that these men may have sold their bounties to Martin >>>> for >>>> needed >>>> cash. But I?m not sure since the warrant lists the men and their >>>> share of >>>> the total acreage (230 acres apiece and another 287 ? acres for an >>>> 8th man). >>>> I am assuming they each got their land. 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Thanks, I'll read about it. The funny thing is 2 of the men named in the warrant - brothers William & John Bennett - are the names of 2 men who later (after 1800) had land in the county. The warrant is dated 1786 in Franklin County, Georgia. The lack of records for them in the 1790s makes me wonder if they are the same men, if records don't exist for the 1790s, or or if they are the same men who just acquired land later. Any way to tell? Barton On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:58 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > Sometimes the soldier don't want the land and the Continental Congress > didn't have money to pay pensions, hence the bounty warrants the > soldier can sell to get $. > > This site explains what it is. > > http://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Revolutionary_War_Pension_Records_and_Bounty_Land_Warrants > > David > > On 3/21/2014 9:26 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: >> Why were they bought? What was the benefit to the purchaser if the >> soldier still got the land? Was that the case - did the soldier still >> get the land? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Barton >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:05 AM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> >>> the Continental warrants were bought and sold a lot during that >>> time, >>> even in New York. >>> >>> Has to check each warrant as to their ranks in the military. The >>> ranks >>> determine the acreage and check the deed books, too. >>> >>> Higher the rank, greater the acreage. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On 3/20/2014 10:02 PM, Barton Lewis wrote: >>>> Who knows how the continental land bounty system worked in Georgia >>>> after the >>>> Revolutionary War? Joseph Martin got a warrant to have measured out >>>> for him >>>> 1897 ½ acres in Franklin County, Georgia on 2 Jan 1786 “on the >>>> Continental >>>> Bounties” of 7 men, including William, John and Richard Bennett. >>>> What >>>> I am >>>> guessing is that these men may have sold their bounties to Martin >>>> for >>>> needed >>>> cash. But I’m not sure since the warrant lists the men and their >>>> share of >>>> the total acreage (230 acres apiece and another 287 ½ acres for an >>>> 8th man). >>>> I am assuming they each got their land. What was Martin’s role? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Barton >>>> ===== >>>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>>> [email protected] and ask for the digest... >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ===== >>> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >>> [email protected] and ask for the digest... >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >

Why were they bought? What was the benefit to the purchaser if the soldier still got the land? Was that the case - did the soldier still get the land? Thanks, Barton On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:05 AM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > the Continental warrants were bought and sold a lot during that time, > even in New York. > > Has to check each warrant as to their ranks in the military. The ranks > determine the acreage and check the deed books, too. > > Higher the rank, greater the acreage. > > David > > On 3/20/2014 10:02 PM, Barton Lewis wrote: >> Who knows how the continental land bounty system worked in Georgia >> after the >> Revolutionary War? Joseph Martin got a warrant to have measured out >> for him >> 1897 ½ acres in Franklin County, Georgia on 2 Jan 1786 “on the >> Continental >> Bounties” of 7 men, including William, John and Richard Bennett. What >> I am >> guessing is that these men may have sold their bounties to Martin for >> needed >> cash. But I’m not sure since the warrant lists the men and their >> share of >> the total acreage (230 acres apiece and another 287 ½ acres for an >> 8th man). >> I am assuming they each got their land. What was Martin’s role? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Barton >> ===== >> If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to >> [email protected] and ask for the digest... >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

the Continental warrants were bought and sold a lot during that time, even in New York. Has to check each warrant as to their ranks in the military. The ranks determine the acreage and check the deed books, too. Higher the rank, greater the acreage. David On 3/20/2014 10:02 PM, Barton Lewis wrote: > Who knows how the continental land bounty system worked in Georgia after the > Revolutionary War? Joseph Martin got a warrant to have measured out for him > 1897 ½ acres in Franklin County, Georgia on 2 Jan 1786 “on the Continental > Bounties” of 7 men, including William, John and Richard Bennett. What I am > guessing is that these men may have sold their bounties to Martin for needed > cash. But I’m not sure since the warrant lists the men and their share of > the total acreage (230 acres apiece and another 287 ½ acres for an 8th man). > I am assuming they each got their land. What was Martin’s role? > > Thanks, > > Barton > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >