ANSWER TO BELOW; Linda, Don't know how much help this will be as I don't speak Swedish but here is an Internatiional Phone Directory site. Since names are names I looked and there were over 100 Westling listings in Sweden. I did not check for the Liss family. Maybe you can find one in the place (or near) that you can try calling or writing (calling is best). Hope it helps you or someone else, Gretchen INTERNATIONAL PHONE DIRECTORY: THE BELOW IS ALL OVER THE WORLD................... http://www.infobel.com/teldir/ _International - Infobel - Telephone Directories_ (http://www.infobel.com/teldir/) SWEDEN PHONE DIRECTORY: http://www.infobel.com/en/world/worldteldir.aspx?page=/eng/euro/se _International, Europe, Sweden - Infobel - Telephone Directories_ (http://www.infobel.com/en/world/worldteldir.aspx?page=/eng/euro/se) ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 07:26:46 -0700 From: "Linda Culbertson" <[email protected]> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Westling Family To: <[email protected]> I am trying to locate some family for my step mom. I believe the Westling family that she knows of was still in Sweden and may have died by now. The names she has given me are Gun & Ragner Westling living in Mockfjard, Sweden. They had a known son Per Anders Westling. Other family names are Frederick Liss, his children's are Nana Liss married Sunar Unknown and Per Liss married Elizabeth. Matt Hedlund is her grandfather and is buried in Lemon SD. I know this isn't much to go on but if you know anything about this family I would be interested in hearing from you. My parents are planning on a trip to Sweden in July. Thank you, Linda

I am trying to locate some family for my step mom. I believe the Westling family that she knows of was still in Sweden and may have died by now. The names she has given me are Gun & Ragner Westling living in Mockfjard, Sweden. They had a known son Per Anders Westling. Other family names are Frederick Liss, his children's are Nana Liss married Sunar Unknown and Per Liss married Elizabeth. Matt Hedlund is her grandfather and is buried in Lemon SD. I know this isn't much to go on but if you know anything about this family I would be interested in hearing from you. My parents are planning on a trip to Sweden in July. Thank you, Linda

This has been a very interesting subject for me, nothing personal thank Heaven. For the most part we treated the POWs very well - not by the Government as such but by the average Joe who so often saw boys far from home and families. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Liz Engle <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, wow! I am impressed --I did a web search a few years ago on this > subject with little result. The web has certainly expanded since then!! I > did not know about the Italian Service Unit Camps. The rumor I heard in the > 1940s could have been about one of those camps. I lived in Wenatchee in > central Washington, a fruit producing area -- apples, pears, cherries, > peaches, apricots, -- like that. Because of the labor shortage during the > war, we adolescents "worked in the fruit" all thru the summer and fall, the > high schools not opening until the apples were harvested in September and > thru October. Probably some of those orchards also utilized labor from the > Italian Service Units, thus justifying a labor camp in an area near > Peshastin in the Wenatchee River Valley. > A source on Wikipedia says:"Prisoners harvested various crops such as > potatoes, sugar beets, onions, apples, and hops at Tule Lake, California; > Albany, Oregon; Malheur County, Oregon; Yamhill County, Oregon; and Malott, > Washington, just to name a few." Malott is a town in eastern Washington, > but the critical words "just to name a few" suggest that other agricultural > districts in Washington also employed Italian POWs. > Thanks for all the info, Eliz. And I hope from all your sources Ralph will > find the records he needs about his Italian kinsman. > > Elizabeth Engle > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:32 PM > To: Liz Engle > Cc: Ralph Scheffler; Roots > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Prisoner of War Records of 1946 > > > > Eliz said: "This list of Prisoner of War Camps, Italian Service Unit Camps, > and Prisoner of War Hospitals is based on weekly reports located on NARA > microfilm #66-538 (population lists June 1942-June 1946). Additional > locations based on newspapers, interviews, and other NARA records (at > College Park and Regional Archives)." > > The rest clipped -- > > > >

The comment <G> about Washington State made me curious - seems Washington was popular for POW camps Italian POW Rosters in USPOWs in the USPOW Death Index in USWWII UT POW CDPOW Photos in USPOW and ISU Camps and Hospitals in USGenealogical Research ISU Units and Installations in USCemeteriesNARA POW ArchivesPublications POW LinksResearcherWWII LinksPOW Research This list of Prisoner of War Camps, Italian Service Unit Camps, and Prisoner of War Hospitals is based on weekly reports located on NARA microfilm #66-538 (population lists June 1942-June 1946). Additional locations based on newspapers, interviews, and other NARA records (at College Park and Regional Archives). The POW Camps in Washington during World War II included: *Auburn H + R Point, Auburn, King and Pierce County, WA (base camp) *Barnes General Hospital, Vancouver Barracks, Clark County, WA *Baxter (Jedediah H.) General Hospital, Spokane, Spokane County, WA *Lawton (Fort Henry W.), Seattle, King County, WA (base camp) *Lewis (Fort Meriwether), Pierce and Thurston County, WA (base camp) (see Spanaway, WA) *Madigan (Patrick S.) General Hospital, Fort Lewis, Pierce County, WA (base camp) *Mount Rainier Ordnance Depot, Tacoma, Pierce County, WA (base camp) *Seattle ASF Depot, Seattle, King County, WA (base camp) *Spanaway (Camp), Pierce County, WA (see Lewis, WA) Enemy alien internment camps: *Lewis (Fort Meriwether), Pierce and Thurston County, WA (German, Italian, and Japanese) *McNeil Island Federal Penitentiary, Pierce County, WA (Japanese) *Seattle INS Detention Facility, King County, WA (temporary detention station) (Italian and Japanese) Cemeteries: *Fort Lawton Post Cemetery, Ft. Lawton, King County, WA, now part of Discovery Park in the City of Seattle. *Fort Lewis Post Cemetery, Ft. Lewis, Pierce. County, WA, active military installation. *Vancouver Barracks Post Cemetery, Vancouver, Clark County, WA, still federal land. For a book about Fort Lawton, check out On American Soil by Jack Manann. There were 9 base camps, 10 branch camps, 3 hospitals, 1 prison, 3 internment locations, and 3 cemeteries in WA. More details in my latest book titled Prisoner of War Camps Across America. It is available in Kindle format on Amazon and in .epub and .mobi formats at the GenTracer Shopping Cart. For more information about these camps, please see: Barracks Cemeterywww.denkmalprojekt.orgFort Lawson CemeteryFort Lewis Cemeterywww.globalsecurity.orgwww.kriegsgefangen.dewww.volksbund.dewww.weltkriegsopfer.de Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Liz Engle <[email protected]> wrote: > I, too, have been interested in the subject of WWII prisoners of war in the > US -- mainly because of rumors in my childhood that an Italian POW camp > existed nearby, "just over the next hill." I doubt that was true -- it was > Washington State, after all. Ralph, I am sorry I cannot help with your > search. But I pass the following on to you -- something I found on the web a > few years ago -- > > "After the end of World War II when the German Prisoners of War were being > sent back to Europe, one of the young POWs left this typewritten note on his > typewriter at Camp Swift in Texas: > > "Goodby, big country, rich country, after 1,000 days I'm leaving you > forever. Goodby you level farm land, you cotton raising state, you proudest > soil under the sun: "My Texas." Goodby especially to you, Fortress Swift > with your barracks and training grounds; you took it from me, finally, this > consciousness of mine to belong to mankind. Goodby busy office at the post, > Goodby dear desks and copies and typewriters. Goodby folks, all you > clerk-typists and levelly [lovely] stenographers, with silk stockings, > powdered faces and rouged lips. I was amazed seeing you sitting leisurely at > hard work with "Cokes" at hand. Goodby America: I'm going to England now as > a young slave and then to Russia as an old one. Goodby - You swell life." > > Good luck on your search. > Elizabeth > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ralph Scheffler > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Prisoner of War Records of 1946 > > You said "Looking for a German family member who was a member of the German > Africa Corps. held as a POW in America" > the rest snipped > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, wow! I am impressed --I did a web search a few years ago on this subject with little result. The web has certainly expanded since then!! I did not know about the Italian Service Unit Camps. The rumor I heard in the 1940s could have been about one of those camps. I lived in Wenatchee in central Washington, a fruit producing area -- apples, pears, cherries, peaches, apricots, -- like that. Because of the labor shortage during the war, we adolescents "worked in the fruit" all thru the summer and fall, the high schools not opening until the apples were harvested in September and thru October. Probably some of those orchards also utilized labor from the Italian Service Units, thus justifying a labor camp in an area near Peshastin in the Wenatchee River Valley. A source on Wikipedia says:"Prisoners harvested various crops such as potatoes, sugar beets, onions, apples, and hops at Tule Lake, California; Albany, Oregon; Malheur County, Oregon; Yamhill County, Oregon; and Malott, Washington, just to name a few." Malott is a town in eastern Washington, but the critical words "just to name a few" suggest that other agricultural districts in Washington also employed Italian POWs. Thanks for all the info, Eliz. And I hope from all your sources Ralph will find the records he needs about his Italian kinsman. Elizabeth Engle -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:32 PM To: Liz Engle Cc: Ralph Scheffler; Roots Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Prisoner of War Records of 1946 Eliz said: "This list of Prisoner of War Camps, Italian Service Unit Camps, and Prisoner of War Hospitals is based on weekly reports located on NARA microfilm #66-538 (population lists June 1942-June 1946). Additional locations based on newspapers, interviews, and other NARA records (at College Park and Regional Archives)." The rest clipped --

In fact the camp even has a facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/camphearne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Scheffler Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROOTS-L] Prisoner of War Records of 1946 Looking for a German family member who was a member of the German Africa Corps. held as a POW in America. He is Alois NELKE born 10 Jan 1911 in Richnau, West Prussia and was a sergeant at the time of capture on 09 May 1943. He went by ship to New York and then Camp Hearne near Dallas, Texas. Other transferred stations were in Arizona, Utah, California and Montana. No military records can be found from 1943 to 1946 when he returned to Scotland and then back to Germany in 1947. The German Red Cross has no information about his time in the United States or in Scotland. Thanks for any assistance. Ralph Scheffler [email protected]

I have some friends who are VERY knowin about Camp Hearne. It is closer to Houston than it is to Dallas. It was located in the town of Hearne, Texas about 20 miles north of College Station/Bryan Texas. If you wish I can send your e-mail on to them. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Scheffler Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROOTS-L] Prisoner of War Records of 1946 Looking for a German family member who was a member of the German Africa Corps. held as a POW in America. He is Alois NELKE born 10 Jan 1911 in Richnau, West Prussia and was a sergeant at the time of capture on 09 May 1943. He went by ship to New York and then Camp Hearne near Dallas, Texas. Other transferred stations were in Arizona, Utah, California and Montana. No military records can be found from 1943 to 1946 when he returned to Scotland and then back to Germany in 1947. The German Red Cross has no information about his time in the United States or in Scotland. Thanks for any assistance. Ralph Scheffler [email protected]

I think some of the Afrika Corps prisoners were also camped near Baltimore, MD. I remember walking along a dusty road, probably near Dundalk, MD, and passing the camp, and was told later the fellows I saw there in dusty uniforms behind high wire fences with barbed wire on top, were from the Afrika Corps. Good luck Avery

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I, too, have been interested in the subject of WWII prisoners of war in the US -- mainly because of rumors in my childhood that an Italian POW camp existed nearby, "just over the next hill." I doubt that was true -- it was Washington State, after all. Ralph, I am sorry I cannot help with your search. But I pass the following on to you -- something I found on the web a few years ago -- "After the end of World War II when the German Prisoners of War were being sent back to Europe, one of the young POWs left this typewritten note on his typewriter at Camp Swift in Texas: "Goodby, big country, rich country, after 1,000 days I'm leaving you forever. Goodby you level farm land, you cotton raising state, you proudest soil under the sun: "My Texas." Goodby especially to you, Fortress Swift with your barracks and training grounds; you took it from me, finally, this consciousness of mine to belong to mankind. Goodby busy office at the post, Goodby dear desks and copies and typewriters. Goodby folks, all you clerk-typists and levelly [lovely] stenographers, with silk stockings, powdered faces and rouged lips. I was amazed seeing you sitting leisurely at hard work with "Cokes" at hand. Goodby America: I'm going to England now as a young slave and then to Russia as an old one. Goodby - You swell life." Good luck on your search. Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Scheffler Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROOTS-L] Prisoner of War Records of 1946 You said "Looking for a German family member who was a member of the German Africa Corps. held as a POW in America" the rest snipped

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I have been trying to send an email to a lady for qutie a long time now, Each time I wrote, I never hear from her nor does my email bounce back. Would not hearing from anyone indicate she has a different email address, or has died or...? Thank you for your help. Barbara in nasty snow and high winds, MA :}

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Karen, thanks for these thoughts. I never thought about it that way. Em -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Leverich Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:05 PM Cc: Rootsweb mailing list Subject: [ROOTS-L] Unanswered E-mail Totally innocent mail can also be diverted to the spam folder, and simply go unnoticed. I know this has happened to me: I wrote to a small committee last year, three women, and only one saw my note. The others found it in their spam folders, after she told them I'd written. Even without landing in a spam folder, though, my (deceased) father's e-mail account receives about 40 pieces of spam to one piece of "real" mail. The ratio is worse than it was because most of his correspondents know he died, and I'm contacting the few who didn't know (his alumni association, for instance). But even before all that, when he was alive but needed some help with it, I was amazed at the ratio of useless stuff to good stuff and how diligently one needed to look to find the real messages. So, a tip! Think about the SUBJECT LINE you use. You don't need to put it all in caps, but it needs to be something that tells the recipient that your message is real as opposed to all the other garbage it is buried in. Think of your message being in the middle of a whole series of ... well, I won't copy the titles of messages in my spam folder, or that's where this message will go. "Edna Merrill was my grandmother ... are you my cousin?" might be good, if you were writing to someone related to Edna Merrill, that sort of thing... Karen ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7251 - Release Date: 03/26/14

Hello Ralph, You might try contacting the US National Archives to see if they have any information regarding your family member. You can see descriptions of some POW records on their website here: http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/389.html Note the contact link in the upper right corner of that webpage. If you scroll down a bit you will see "Records of the Prisoner of War Division." Happy searching. Regards, Joe -- German Roots - German Genealogy Resources http://www.germanroots.com/

Barbara, I haven't thought about this before but my mother-in-law has an email address simply because she would not know how to cancel it. Her dementia has gotten to the point where no one would want to hear from her any way. Gale On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Barbara Young <[email protected]> wrote: I have been trying to send an email to a lady for qutie a long time now, Each time I wrote, I never hear from her nor does my email bounce back. Would not hearing from anyone indicate she has a different email address, or has died or...? Thank you for your help. Barbara in nasty snow and high winds, MA :} ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Totally innocent mail can also be diverted to the spam folder, and simply go unnoticed. I know this has happened to me: I wrote to a small committee last year, three women, and only one saw my note. The others found it in their spam folders, after she told them I'd written. Even without landing in a spam folder, though, my (deceased) father's e-mail account receives about 40 pieces of spam to one piece of "real" mail. The ratio is worse than it was because most of his correspondents know he died, and I'm contacting the few who didn't know (his alumni association, for instance). But even before all that, when he was alive but needed some help with it, I was amazed at the ratio of useless stuff to good stuff and how diligently one needed to look to find the real messages. So, a tip! Think about the SUBJECT LINE you use. You don't need to put it all in caps, but it needs to be something that tells the recipient that your message is real as opposed to all the other garbage it is buried in. Think of your message being in the middle of a whole series of ... well, I won't copy the titles of messages in my spam folder, or that's where this message will go. "Edna Merrill was my grandmother ... are you my cousin?" might be good, if you were writing to someone related to Edna Merrill, that sort of thing... Karen

Hi Richard I have seen much of that suggested in the blog and will continue with the rest tomorrow But sadly the truth is that new search is not a patch on old search no matter how many times they tell us its the greatest Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/03/2014 02:42, Richard Lee Holbert wrote: > Just an fyi > > Here's the latest article from the Genealogy site at BellaOnline.com > > Ancestry's New Search > > Ancestry.com is a database that most of use rely on everyday in our > genealogical research. A couple years ago we were advised to learn > their new search engine, as the older search engine was being phased > out. Come learn some tips in helping you with Ancestry's new search! > > http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art182970.asp/zzz

The reason that you see property bought and sold on the same day is that you are only seeing the deals made official. It may have been purchased years before on a handshake and when it came time to sell it again, all parties involved picked a day and made their way to the county courthouse. Sometimes this would happen if one of the parties involved was moving out of the area. Making the trip to the courthouse wasn't always easy for folks living in the far reaches of some counties. Also, don't be surprised if you see several land transactions on a single day. It was convenient to settle up all the business at once, even though the sales may have occurred over several years. --- Original message from Audrey Barber --- I came across a deed that described a property that I identified and found that one of my ancestors had purchased that property on Oct.2, 1844 for $1200. and the same day sold it to someone else for the same price. I know it is the same property because I had a land surveyor figure it out in case I was wrong. Can anyone out there think of a reason that this would take place??

Looking for a German family member who was a member of the German Africa Corps. held as a POW in America. He is Alois NELKE born 10 Jan 1911 in Richnau, West Prussia and was a sergeant at the time of capture on 09 May 1943. He went by ship to New York and then Camp Hearne near Dallas, Texas. Other transferred stations were in Arizona, Utah, California and Montana. No military records can be found from 1943 to 1946 when he returned to Scotland and then back to Germany in 1947. The German Red Cross has no information about his time in the United States or in Scotland. Thanks for any assistance. Ralph Scheffler [email protected]