Thanks, Suzanne.  I didn't like it that the url was so long, but I guess there's nothing to be done about that.  I haven't tried entering into my software yet, so I wonder if it will accept the entire url and what one does when that's not the case.  I recently switched from PAF to Legacy.  I tried the free versions of Ancestral Quest, RootsMagic and Legacy before purchasing the full version of Legacy.  They have several features I like and it seems to get the best reviews.  However, I've been a little disappointed at the way source entries are formatted in some cases.  But my sense is no software is perfect in that regard, since "perfect" may not yet (or ever) exist.  Just curious -- is there a software you think's better than other for source entry purposes? Thanks, Barton On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Susanna Hough wrote: Barton:  You have done an excellent job.  The main idea is to have all the info there, such as section, title of both article & newspaper, date, page number and the fact that it was an online database.     The most important point is to document any info one finds.  I inherited some obits. that had no dates or page numbers.  I narrowed down to the two papers in existence in the area at the time and wrote "possibly . . ."  Often in addition to the page number, I will say how many paragraphs were devoted to my ancestor.   Suzanne On 5/29/2014 11:22:51 PM, Barton Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:I have a question about source citation. I use genealogybank.com a lot and want to properly cite obits I find there. I consulted E. Shown Mills and the edition I have of Evidence Explained does not directly address online sources unrelated to the publisher for obits. I cobbled together the following example based on a combination of her examples for citing obituaries, and online versions of journal articles (in case the newspaper title doesn't appear as such, I put it in italics): "Frederick D. Bachtel," obituary, Akron (OH) Beacon Journal, 25 Oct 2000, p. B5; online archives, Genealogybank.com (http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/obituaries/doc/obit/0FA379F834209D7A-0FA3 79F834209D7A? 79F834209D7A?&s_dlid=DL0114053003035015133&s_ecproduct=SUB-Y-6995-R.IO-30&s_ ecprodtype=RENEW-A-R&s_trackval=&s_siteloc=&s_referrer=&s_subterm=Subscripti on%20until%3A%2009%2F26%2F2014&s_docsbal=%20&s_subexpires=09%2F26%2F2014&s_d ocstart=&s_docsleft=&s_docsread=&[email protected]&s_acco untid=AC0109082902332520570&s_upgradeable=no> &s_dlid=DL0114053003035015133&s_ecproduct=SUB-Y-6995-R.IO-30&s_ecprodtype=RE NEW-A-R&s_trackval=&s_siteloc=&s_referrer=&s_subterm=Subscription%20until%3A %2009%2F26%2F2014&s_docsbal=%20&s_subexpires=09%2F26%2F2014&s_docstart=&s_do csleft=&s_docsread=&[email protected]&s_accountid=AC01090 82902332520570&s_upgradeable=no : accessed 29 May 29, 2014) Does this look correct? Thanks, Barton ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barton:  You have done an excellent job.  The main idea is to have all the info there, such as section, title of both article & newspaper, date, page number and the fact that it was an online database.     The most important point is to document any info one finds.  I inherited some obits. that had no dates or page numbers.  I narrowed down to the two papers in existence in the area at the time and wrote "possibly . . ."  Often in addition to the page number, I will say how many paragraphs were devoted to my ancestor.   Suzanne On 5/29/2014 11:22:51 PM, Barton Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: I have a question about source citation. I use genealogybank.com a lot and want to properly cite obits I find there. I consulted E. Shown Mills and the edition I have of Evidence Explained does not directly address online sources unrelated to the publisher for obits. I cobbled together the following example based on a combination of her examples for citing obituaries, and online versions of journal articles (in case the newspaper title doesn't appear as such, I put it in italics): "Frederick D. Bachtel," obituary, Akron (OH) Beacon Journal, 25 Oct 2000, p. B5; online archives, Genealogybank.com (http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/obituaries/doc/obit/0FA379F834209D7A-0FA3 79F834209D7A? 79F834209D7A?&s_dlid=DL0114053003035015133&s_ecproduct=SUB-Y-6995-R.IO-30&s_ ecprodtype=RENEW-A-R&s_trackval=&s_siteloc=&s_referrer=&s_subterm=Subscripti on%20until%3A%2009%2F26%2F2014&s_docsbal=%20&s_subexpires=09%2F26%2F2014&s_d ocstart=&s_docsleft=&s_docsread=&[email protected]&s_acco untid=AC0109082902332520570&s_upgradeable=no> &s_dlid=DL0114053003035015133&s_ecproduct=SUB-Y-6995-R.IO-30&s_ecprodtype=RE NEW-A-R&s_trackval=&s_siteloc=&s_referrer=&s_subterm=Subscription%20until%3A %2009%2F26%2F2014&s_docsbal=%20&s_subexpires=09%2F26%2F2014&s_docstart=&s_do csleft=&s_docsread=&[email protected]&s_accountid=AC01090 82902332520570&s_upgradeable=no : accessed 29 May 29, 2014) Does this look correct? Thanks, Barton ===== If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a question about source citation. I use genealogybank.com a lot and want to properly cite obits I find there. I consulted E. Shown Mills and the edition I have of Evidence Explained does not directly address online sources unrelated to the publisher for obits. I cobbled together the following example based on a combination of her examples for citing obituaries, and online versions of journal articles (in case the newspaper title doesn't appear as such, I put it in italics): "Frederick D. Bachtel," obituary, Akron (OH) Beacon Journal, 25 Oct 2000, p. B5; online archives, Genealogybank.com (http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/obituaries/doc/obit/0FA379F834209D7A-0FA3 79F834209D7A? <http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/obituaries/doc/obit/0FA379F834209D7A-0FA3 79F834209D7A?&s_dlid=DL0114053003035015133&s_ecproduct=SUB-Y-6995-R.IO-30&s_ ecprodtype=RENEW-A-R&s_trackval=&s_siteloc=&s_referrer=&s_subterm=Subscripti on%20until%3A%2009%2F26%2F2014&s_docsbal=%20&s_subexpires=09%2F26%2F2014&s_d ocstart=&s_docsleft=&s_docsread=&[email protected]&s_acco untid=AC0109082902332520570&s_upgradeable=no> &s_dlid=DL0114053003035015133&s_ecproduct=SUB-Y-6995-R.IO-30&s_ecprodtype=RE NEW-A-R&s_trackval=&s_siteloc=&s_referrer=&s_subterm=Subscription%20until%3A %2009%2F26%2F2014&s_docsbal=%20&s_subexpires=09%2F26%2F2014&s_docstart=&s_do csleft=&s_docsread=&[email protected]&s_accountid=AC01090 82902332520570&s_upgradeable=no : accessed 29 May 29, 2014) Does this look correct? Thanks, Barton

http://noyesgenealogy.blogspot.com/2008/08/11th-generation-extensive.html About half way down there is " HRK comment:". I am trying to determine who HRK is. I have a typescript page on Gilman and Noyes that also has HRK comment:" for an italicized note. However, the page was not copied properly so 1/3 of the left side is missing, and there is nothing to indicate from what book the page came. I checked out Maine Hist. & Gen. Rec. 3, 1886 cited on that page (and elsewhere, having Googled all kinds of things trying to figure this out), and not only does it not say who HRK is, it doesn't even have the information this is supposedly citing. In the two pages I have, the page that is cut off says "onal research has been done. HRK)" and another, full, page, has after the list of the children of Edward (A) Gilman, "HRK comment. Many of the early lists give the name of the sons first, then name the daughters, regardless of the order of births." Whatever book it is, had to have been published after 1950, because one of the references is "The story of the Gilmans and a Gilman genealogy of the descendants of Edward Gilman of Hingham, England, 1550-1950" If I knew who HRK was, I might be able to track down the book. So, do you have any idea? -- Kathryn Bassett [email protected] (work) [email protected] (home) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

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It might be online, it is worth looking at fold3 and familysearch.org Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Nancy <[email protected]> wrote: > Having found that in 1834 in Jefferson, N.Y. my gggrandfather was > Naturalized. Birth year was 1797 and was born in Ireland. > How can I check out the "original" document to see if any other information > exists on it? > Thank you, Nancy > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to Christina Schaefer, in *Guide to Naturalization Records of the United States*, Jefferson County records should be housed at the Jefferson County Court. I would check out their web site or give them a call. Naturalization is a multi-year process, so it's possible that it was begun in one location and finished in another. Good luck in your search! ~Steve ________________ family.seebart.org On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Nancy <[email protected]> wrote: > Having found that in 1834 in Jefferson, N.Y. my gggrandfather was > Naturalized. Birth year was 1797 and was born in Ireland. > How can I check out the "original" document to see if any other information > exists on it? > Thank you, Nancy > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Having found that in 1834 in Jefferson, N.Y. my gggrandfather was Naturalized. Birth year was 1797 and was born in Ireland. How can I check out the "original" document to see if any other information exists on it? Thank you, Nancy

Hi all Thought this may be of interest <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27575187> They are on scotlandspeople and cost 2.50gbp each or 10 credits -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Greetings, The Fort Worth Central Library presents the following workshop, "Ancestry-in-Action: Unpuzzling Your Past and Preserving Your Family Tree" on Saturday, June 7, 2014 from 11:00 am - 4:00 pm in the Tandy Lecture Hall. Please note that morning refreshments begin at 10:30 am. We will feature three speakers at this workshop: Judy Knight will present, "Cemetery Dowsing." Trouble finding the grave of an ancestor even though you know the right cemetery? Judy Allen Knight discusses how grave dowsing can help you locate unmarked graves and provide clues about the person's identity. Knight, a genealogical speaker with more than 40 years' experience in family history, is actively preserving her family's Tarrant County cemetery. In 2001, the site was declared a Historic State Cemetery. She has served in multiple capacities with the Texas State Genealogical Society. Betsy Mills will present, "Identifying Old Photographs: Preserving and Sharing." Betsy Mills reveals how to solve puzzling old family photographs by analyzing the type of photograph, people and styles, and other often-missed clues. Learn also to preserve these memories by scanning and sharing them. Mills, part of the TXGenWeb Project and State Coordinator for ARGenWeb, became a genealogist when she was 10 years old and discovered an empty family tree in her baby book. She promptly began working to fill in the blanks. Mills currently serves as President of the Lamar County Genealogical Society and Lamar County Historical Commission. Larry McCarty will present, "Daniel Quarles: Reconnected after 150 Years." Larry McCarty presents the history of African-American Daniel Quarles, who might have been the model for the character Jim in Mark Twain's classic The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. McCarty discusses the Quarles family's migration and subsequent reconnection, link between John A. Quarles and Samuel Clemens, and the ongoing Mark Twain archaeological dig in Florida, Missouri. McCarty has spoken about black history at numerous library, university and genealogical society events, and on television. Our agenda for the day will be: 10:30 am - 11:00 am - Morning Refreshments 11:00 am - 12 pm - Cemetery Dowsing Presented by Judy Knight 12:00 pm - 1:30 pm - Independent Lunch 1:30 pm - 2:30 pm - Identifying Old Photographs: Preserving and Sharing Presented by Betsy Mills 2:30 pm - 3:00 pm - Break with Refreshments 3:00 pm - 4:00 pm - Daniel Quarles: Reconnected After 150 Years Presented by Larry McCarty Please call (817)392-7740 or e-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> to reserve your spot! We hope to see you on Saturday, June 7, 2014. Sincerely, Suzanne Fritz, Librarian Fort Worth Library -- Central

Greetings, There will be a public dedication of the Major Ripley Allen Arnold statue on Panther Island (directly behind the TCC Trinity River Campus at the confluence of the Clear and West Forks of the Trinity River) on Friday, June 6, 2014 from 10 - 11 am. Remarks by Congresswoman Kay Granger, Mayor Betsy Price, and President and CEO of the Sid W. Richardson Foundation Pete Geren. Featuring the Comanche Indians Veterans Association, the Air National Guard Band, and NAS Fort Worth JRB Joint Color Guard. Parking is available in the Panther Island Pavillion parking lot located at 395 West Purcey Street, Fort Worth, TX 76102 Sincerely, Suzanne Fritz, Librarian Fort Worth Library -- Central Genealogy, History & Archives

I  am interested in finding the death date and place of death on Elizabeth Shoop, born arouund 1856 in Scott Co VA.  Her parents were Fergueson and Catherine (Lanter) Shoop.  In 1910 she was living in Inman, VA Wise Co with sons James and Allen Shoop.  Any info on her will be appreciated. Faye Street

I am going over my grandmother's journals - again! They were building an extension to the barn and putting a silo up. She noted that " Mr MacDonald and Fred "put the silo away". She was a Plymouth area Yankee from way back (1620) and often used terms that she learned as a child (b 1875) My question: Does anyone know if that referred to the day they finished it or put it to bed for the day?:} Thank you Barbara in MA

Just a guess with no confirmation. I would hazard a guess that the silo is now no longer on the to do list therefore 'put away'. To cease work at the end of a day would likely be termed something else if even mentioned unless terminated by a storm or rain. Still struggling with spoken hillbilly not much into NE English. LOL Ron Submarine Vet. On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Barbara Young wrote: > I am going over my grandmother's journals - again! They were building > an extension to the barn and putting a silo up. She noted that " Mr > MacDonald and Fred "put the silo away". She was a Plymouth area Yankee > from way back (1620) and often used terms that she learned as a child > (b 1875) > My question: Does anyone know if that referred to the day they > finished it or put it to bed for the day?:} > Thank you Barbara in MA ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for any descendants of the Dobereiner family of Murray Co, MN. Two daughters married into the O’Shea & Johnson families. Trying to reunite an early 1900s piece of correspondence. If you are connected, please see http://thedeadrelativecollector.blogspot.com/2014/05/dobereiner-family-postcard-currie.html Cheers!

Hello and Happy Memorial Day! Please see the following message from the National Archives - Fort Worth. They are in need of three Citizen Archivists to assist with indexing and digitizing slave manifests from 1808 - 1860. This is to commemorate the 150th Anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation. Sincerely, Suzanne Fritz, Librarian Fort Worth Library - Central __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Greetings! Our June Citizen Archivist program is just around the corner: June 3 -5! We are seeking 3 adventurous souls who would like to spend 3 days learning the ropes of being an archivist! The tasks at hand will focus on indexing and digitizing slave manifests from 1808-1860. All of the work will be conducted at our John Burgess location (1400 John Burgess Drive, Fort Worth, 76021) from 8:30 - 3:30. If you are interested, please send your contact information and a paragraph stating why you would like to participate to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Apply by Thursday, May 29th. Please share this information with anyone who might be interested. Thank you! Meg Hacker Archives Director, National Archives at Fort Worth 1400 John Burgess Drive Fort Worth, TX 76140 Phone Number: 817-551-2033 and 2600 West 7th Street, Suite 162 Fort Worth, TX 76107 Phone 817-831-5643 Check us out on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nationalarchivesfortworth

Gretchen, thanks for the link I will keep it and give it a try if the one that Nivard sent (the one I had before) messes up. Em From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:08 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: e-mail cleaner ANSWER TO BELOW: Em, Nivard and anyone else interested. Here is the one I use and it has a free download. It's called E-Mail Stripper. Here is there URL and hyperlink. Hope this helps, Gretchen http://www.papercut.com/emailStripper.htm emailSTRIPPER - Print management, quotas, control, monitoring and accounting - PaperCut <http://www.papercut.com/emailStripper.htm> ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 16:20:11 -0400 From: "Emery St Cyr" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] e-mail cleaner To: "'Nivard Ovington'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Nivard, this is the story-- I had a program that I downloaded free some time ago that I could click on and it would allow me to put the document into paragraph form without all the return marks and or extra spacing then I would print out a more readable version of the data sent. It was great. .Em

Yes Nivard, that is the one I had before, Thanks for sending the link. I have installed it. I don't have an item to use it on at the moment but will certainly put it to good use when I do. Em -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:28 PM To: Emery St Cyr; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] e-mail cleaner Hi again Could it be this ? <http://www.unlock-your-happiness.com/ecleaner-the-free-email-cleaner.html> I haven't tried it so can't vouch for it If I have the need I paste into notepad and use replace to get rid of > etc Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/05/2014 21:20, Emery St Cyr wrote: > Nivard, this is the story-- I had a program that I downloaded free some time ago that I could click on and it would allow me to put the document into paragraph form without all the return marks and or extra spacing then I would print out a more readable version of the data sent. It was great. > .Em >

ANSWER TO BELOW: Em, Nivard and anyone else interested. Here is the one I use and it has a free download. It's called E-Mail Stripper. Here is there URL and hyperlink. Hope this helps, Gretchen http://www.papercut.com/emailStripper.htm _emailSTRIPPER - Print management, quotas, control, monitoring and accounting - PaperCut_ (http://www.papercut.com/emailStripper.htm) ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 16:20:11 -0400 From: "Emery St Cyr" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] e-mail cleaner To: "'Nivard Ovington'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Nivard, this is the story-- I had a program that I downloaded free some time ago that I could click on and it would allow me to put the document into paragraph form without all the return marks and or extra spacing then I would print out a more readable version of the data sent. It was great. .Em

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