A while back I was no longer able to access Familysearch, When I called them was told it was Internet Explorer and to change browser to Firefox. That has worked well for me until recently and am no longer able to get Familysearch to work. Several people wrote and said they were using Internet Explorer and it was working fine. I just tried ie and got a message that it doesn't work with the current version of ie and to choose another browser. So Firefox doesn't work and my ie doesn't work where do I go from here? Feeling discouraged, JBletch

What version of Firefox are you using? I use Firefox 30.0 and have had no trouble getting on the FamilySearch.org site. Ann Payne [email protected] Santee, Ca. -------------------------------------------------- From: "jbletch via" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [ROOTS-L] family search > Is family search not working? > I can log in and open search page but then get a message "page not found" > on any search. > Using Firefox. > JBletch > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7883 - Release Date: 07/19/14 >

Is anyone out there searching (or have in their family) a WYBRANT family from Ireland? My part of the family came from County Wicklow in Ireland. I realize that the surname was probably originally Norwegian but my ancestors all came from Ireland between 1800 and 1849. My Great Grandmother, Jane Frances Wybrant Flynn was b. 1814 in Sheeanamore, County Wicklow, Ireland. She was married sometime before 1844 in Ireland to James Flynn where they had four children. On Nov. 6, 1849 they arrived on the ship "Hartley" which landed at New Orleans. I must assume they and the children went by river because in the 1850 Census they were in McDonough County, Illinois. In Feb. 1851 in Illinois they had my Grandfather James Flynn. Jane's family (Andrew and Ann) arrived earlier than she did. If this sounds familiar to anyone please contact me. Thanks for reading this. Gretchen EMAIL: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Is family search not working? I can log in and open search page but then get a message "page not found" on any search. Using Firefox. JBletch

>Submitted by [email protected] >The census is not a legal document. It is only as accurate as the >census taker and the person giving the information. Names may be >spelled incorrectly. Included may be nieces or nephews with the same >last name being mistaken for children, and children may not be listed >if they were away at the time of the census.> > >DAR accepts census copies as proof when accompanied with other >documents. Vitals are sometimes not available in old records, so other >ways glued together, is workable. > >LEGAL TRIVIA >When land was sold, the spouse had to be listed in the land >record. Land records should be searched after a death as often a >list of heirs will be shown during partition of the estate and even >sometimes a map. >If there is a will, it is probated by an Executor - if there is no >will, the estate is cared for by an Administrator appointed by the court. >"IN RE" concerning adoptions means "in regards to" something. You >can often find adoptions listed in record books where divorce and >probate records are filed. Instead of putting adoptions in under the >letter "A" they may place them under "I" for "in re". Under this >category you will find petitions to change name, petition to adopt, etc. Shirley Hornbeck <http://www.genealogical.com/products/This%20and%20That%20Genealogy%20Tips/9377.html> <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck>

Hi Sue I was using XP when I realised at some point I would need to go to Window 7 I then found Outlook Express was not usable in Win 7, so I looked for an alternative (I looked at live mail but disliked it as I do all web based emailers), Thunderbird was one of those suggested to me On investigation I found it reasonably similar to OE to look at and use, so installed it alongside of OE, after back ups of course In the course of the install I found I could carry forward my settings from OE (address book etc) and also the saved emails which numbered many thousands It was nowhere as onerous as I thought it would be I then got a Win 7 laptop and installed Thunderbird on that, again taking forward my settings, address book & emails That was not very long before the XP computer just up and died one day, I have never been able to get into it since But I had a back up of all but the last few days before the crash so was not to bothered So I would suggest having a read of the following link below, which will probably answer your questions I have found the help and support very good One thing I did find with Thunderbird was the search function, is so superior to OE that I do not file mails as I used to (spending much time in the process) I archive by year and can find most things in seconds, so why waste time filing in folders I still have all my old folders from my previous machine I also use a small free utility called Mozbackup which I use to backup my Firefox settings (favourites & bookmarks) and all my email, I then copy that to a thumb drive and Dropbox should the worst happen https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switching-thunderbird You will find a link on the left of the above page for download etc Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17/07/2014 13:55, Sue Alberts via wrote: > Nice to have that list of Topics back to displaying the sender name and the >>From showing the lister's email address. > > Nivard, can the cache of emails I have saved in Outlook be moved intact to > Thunderbird or does one have to start fresh? And where is Thunderbird > found? Admittedly it is hard to think of going to yet another email system, > but I am thinking of investigating. Sue A.

Hi Listers, I am back asking for computer help. After reading Eastman I went to thelink he has for a program. THe screen was filled completely with that site - o search bar Start menu - nothing but that and I tried to reduce it to get to something that would give me tools but had no luck so had to turn it off at the CPU/ I restarted and now I have most of it back but there is no bar with file, edit, view.etc Does anyone know how to get it back? Thank you so very much Barbara in MA

Nice to have that list of Topics back to displaying the sender name and the >From showing the lister's email address. Nivard, can the cache of emails I have saved in Outlook be moved intact to Thunderbird or does one have to start fresh? And where is Thunderbird found? Admittedly it is hard to think of going to yet another email system, but I am thinking of investigating. Sue A.

Or use Thunderbird where the senders address is visible Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/07/2014 14:57, Sue Alberts via wrote: > Shirley Hornbeck and others - clever of you, girlfriend! > Shirley made her email address known to list readers by putting her email > address in the cc: box of the email she sent to "[email protected]". > The other way, of course, is to add your email address to your sign-off.

David- This issue SHOULD be fixed now on lists2 --- but the code still needs to be ported to lists on the other servers. Randy said there will be some lag time for the new code to catch up and it SHOULD fix the digests. Joan In a message dated 7/16/2014 12:06:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: this is what it looks like when I reply. No email listed unless she put her email address in her email message body. David Samuelsen

Can you provide a link to such a document so that we can try it? Robin in Short Pump On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Emery St Cyr via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello all, > > When I try to print out a document that is offered in the search mode it > prints out garbage that makes no sense. > > > > If I copy and paste, It prints fine but in a different format. > > > > Is anyone else having this problem and how do you solve it? > > > > Thanks for your help > > Em > > [email protected] > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, When I try to print out a document that is offered in the search mode it prints out garbage that makes no sense. If I copy and paste, It prints fine but in a different format. Is anyone else having this problem and how do you solve it? Thanks for your help Em [email protected]

this is what it looks like when I reply. No email listed unless she put her email address in her email message body. David Samuelsen On 7/16/2014 7:57 AM, Sue Alberts via wrote: > Shirley Hornbeck and others - clever of you, girlfriend! > Shirley made her email address known to list readers by putting her email > address in the cc: box of the email she sent to "[email protected]". > The other way, of course, is to add your email address to your sign-off. > > BEGIN QUOTE her email header > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:35:49 -0700 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ROOTS-L] This and That Citizenship Requirements > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] END QUOTE > > Sue A email example: [email protected]

Shirley Hornbeck and others - clever of you, girlfriend! Shirley made her email address known to list readers by putting her email address in the cc: box of the email she sent to "[email protected]". The other way, of course, is to add your email address to your sign-off. BEGIN QUOTE her email header Message: 4 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:35:49 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: [ROOTS-L] This and That Citizenship Requirements To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] END QUOTE Sue A email example: [email protected]

Just woke and saw the bad weather in NJ.  Did Amanda get in OK last evening? 

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) wrote: >There is no need to copy and paste the other addresses unless you want to >mail them direct If you want to put the message in a context at all, at least you have to manually copy and paste the signature at bottom of the letter you write when answering a message sent out as digest. There is nothing there in the message that mentions what context, unless you copy and paste what is relevant. Even standard signatures are skipped :-) Alf Christophersen Roots-L founder :-)

Another what everyone can do is to start filtering messages for the maillist you subscribe to, BEFORE the entry that filter out spam, often recognized by a consecutive row of 's', the more 's' the worse spam By filtering at income place at ISP, be sure that messages from the lists you subscribe are filtered Immediately, before ISP do apply the default filter that you might edit.

Hi Listers I want to apologize for things I posted. Nivard has very kindly told me how the filtering system on rootsweb works and I can see now that I was very wrong in my thoughts of the way it is done. We are safe.:} Please accept my apologies. Very sincerely Barbara

The Online Death Indexes and Records website has some new links or updates for the following states: CA, CO, CT, FL, GA, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, MA, MI, MN, MO, NE, NY, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, TN, TX, VA and WI. You can find a list of the latest additions and updates here... http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/online-indexes-death-records-cemeteries-obituaries.html Or: http://goo.gl/FSHiLC Feel free to share this message with any other genealogy newsgroups or Facebook genealogy groups. Happy searching. Regards, Joe -- Online Death Records Indexes, Obituaries and Cemeteries (USA) http://www.deathindexes.com/

CITIZENSHIP REQUIREMENT ACTS 1790 AND 1796: The first naturalization law was passed March 26, 1790. Naturalization was an option, not a requirement. Prior to 1906 naturalization records were seldom uniform from one court to another and from one era to another. Furthermore these records were created by many different courts and now may be housed in many different repositories. While the rules for naturalization have changed, the basic format has generally been a two step process of "intent" followed by a final "petition", except for veterans of certain wars, who were allowed to do both at once. Minors residing here for five years prior to their 23rd birthday could also complete both steps at once between 1824 and 1906. Naturalization records were not collected by one single entity. A person could "declare intent" in one court and file "petition for citizenship" in a different court. To add to the complexity various courts kept records of differing detail. Some declarations of intent my contain some genealogical data such as original country or place of birth. These records may not contain details about family members. The courts holding naturalization records could be at the county, state or federal level. Children became citizens when their fathers did. Wives, until 1922, likewise became citizens when their husbands did. Further the names of wife and children may not be listed on either application. In general if you are not reasonably sure if, when and where a declaration might have been made, a search is likely to be time consuming and difficult. The order of the forms filed was Declaration of Intention, Petition for Naturalization, then if the test were successful they received there Naturalization Certificate and were citizens. The waiting period to file a Declaration was 1 or 2 years, the Petition was 5 years, then the test. If your family member was naturalized before September 1906, the records are at the courthouse in the county where they were naturalized. Now if your grandparents were married and he became naturalized before 1922, your grandmother would have automatically become a citizen. Any foreign born children would become citizens also. This was the law. If he was naturalized after 1922, then she would have had to file also. Modern Records: Starting in 1906, copies of naturalization papers were collected by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). These records include both immigration and naturalization records. They are more standardized than records of previous eras and include the names of spouses and children, whether they were citizens or not. INS immigration records date from 1897 onward. You can request these files directly. The form needed is G639 and can be requested from your local or regional Immigration and Naturalization Service office or by calling 1--800-870-3676. Verbal information can be sought at 202-514-2607. The more information you have the more likely your ancestor will be identified even if they were not naturalized. There is no cost for the INS record search. You will need to provide full name and address (or addresses) as a minimum. Further, critical dates, social security number, birthday and place of birth >will help insure a creditable search. The address of the Washington, D.C. INS office is: Immigration and Naturalization Service, 425 I (eye) Street NW > Washington, DC 20536. Most aliens became citizens within 10 years of the time they were eligible. Before 1906 the records were kept by federal, state and local courts. There is a book that summarizes these records on file for each state: "Locating Your Immigrant Ancestors: A Guide to Naturalization Records" by James C. and Lila Lee Negles. You can obtain this from Everton Publishers, Inc. or your local intra-library loan program. To become a citizen of the United States by Acts of 1790 and 1796, one had to live in the United States for 5 years and in the state or territory for one year; and had to make a Declaration of Intent three years prior to becoming a citizen. However, naturalization was not required, and many people lived their lives here without naturalization, or after making D of I, not continuing with the procedure. It was purely voluntary. It was not until 1906 that appearance in Federal Court was required - prior to that any court of record could naturalize. As to children, when the father was naturalized, his wife and children were automatically citizens. If a person had lived in the United States for at least 3 years prior to age of 21, he could apply for naturalization directly, without waiting to file the D. of I. A reference source for changes in laws is Gettys, Luella: The Laws of Citizenship in the United States 1934, University of Chicago Press, Chicago, Illinois. Remember, naturalization is voluntary and not all immigrants were/are naturalized. You find many naturalizations dated in the 1940's during WWII when many aliens had to be naturalized to stay in USA. See This and That Tips for the rest of this article and more tips: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck> Shirley Hornbeck - <http://www.genealogical.com/item_detail.asp?afid=1132&ID=9377>