Have you tried to search the trees at rootsweb? Often that is a good way to connect with people doing research. Joining a surname list can help too. Do you need help with research or are you looking for researchers to share with? Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mary Ellen Moran via <[email protected]> wrote: > Trying to locate anyone researching the following families: Triggs, Burke and Hazel from Ireland and Warner from Maine & MA. Thanks for your help. Mary Ellen > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trying to locate anyone researching the following families: Triggs, Burke and Hazel from Ireland and Warner from Maine & MA. Thanks for your help. Mary Ellen

Thanks, Donald.  I tried to find this guide online, or where I could order it, but was unsuccessful.  I searched at the NARA site but had no luck.  Do you know how it can be obtained?  Also, it is not clear to me from the excerpt you provided, but is the correct page number to use the stamped one that is referred to in the excerpt?  If so, since in my example Sion Bennett appears on the left side page of the 2 pages shown in the image on Ancestry with "211" on the right hand page, how would you cite the page number?  "211 reverse?" Thanks, Barton On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Donald E. Watts, dba Origins: Historical Research wrote: Census pages To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> I have a question about census citations.  On the earlier censuses (pre-1850 or thereabouts), there are 2 or more page numbers for a given page.  For example, my ancestor's cousin Sion Bennett appears in the 1820 Pendleton, South Carolina census on p. 49 of 67, according to the numbers next to the left and right scroll arrows in the middle bottom of the screen; on the census page itself, the numbers 62 and 63 are in the top left corners of the facing pages and are in the same handwriting as the census entries; the number 211 is stamped on the facing page where Sion appears in the upper right corner; and there is yet another set of numbers in the upper left and right corners for both pages - 282 and 283.  Does anyone know which number is the better and why?   See page 19, Guide to Genealogical Records in the National Archives, NARA, Washington, 1964:   Pagination of the Volumes of the Schedules for the Decennial Years 1800-70     Many of the schedules contain two of more series of page numbers. The series cited by the National Archives is the series that runs consecu- tively throughout each volume used in the Central Research Room, whether photostat or original.     In some volumes a hand stamp was used for numbering and only alter- nate pages are numbered.  In such instances the National Archives refers to the right-hand page as the “face” and the back of the page as the “reverse.”     As microfilm or other copies of the schedules do not necessarily have the same pagination, it is wise, in citing a reference, to give not only the volume number, page number, and name of the State, but also the name of the county and the minor subdivision.   Donald   ORIGINS™ Historical Research Donald E. Watts E – [email protected] H – 304-725-0571 C – 304-676-7034

Census pages To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> I have a question about census citations. On the earlier censuses (pre-1850 or thereabouts), there are 2 or more page numbers for a given page. For example, my ancestor's cousin Sion Bennett appears in the 1820 Pendleton, South Carolina census on p. 49 of 67, according to the numbers next to the left and right scroll arrows in the middle bottom of the screen; on the census page itself, the numbers 62 and 63 are in the top left corners of the facing pages and are in the same handwriting as the census entries; the number 211 is stamped on the facing page where Sion appears in the upper right corner; and there is yet another set of numbers in the upper left and right corners for both pages - 282 and 283. Does anyone know which number is the better and why? See page 19, Guide to Genealogical Records in the National Archives, NARA, Washington, 1964: Pagination of the Volumes of the Schedules for the Decennial Years 1800-70 Many of the schedules contain two of more series of page numbers. The series cited by the National Archives is the series that runs consecu- tively throughout each volume used in the Central Research Room, whether photostat or original. In some volumes a hand stamp was used for numbering and only alter- nate pages are numbered. In such instances the National Archives refers to the right-hand page as the “face” and the back of the page as the “reverse.” As microfilm or other copies of the schedules do not necessarily have the same pagination, it is wise, in citing a reference, to give not only the volume number, page number, and name of the State, but also the name of the county and the minor subdivision. Donald ORIGINS™ Historical Research Donald E. Watts E – [email protected] H – 304-725-0571 C – 304-676-7034

Dear list, I am new to this list, I am seeking information on James Shepherd (James Mitchelmore Shepherd) He was in the Kimberley in the early 1900s at a place called Bulla Bulla or Moola Bulla? It appears he went to W.A. from Queensland where his family lived (Whetstone/Toowoomba). Any information would be most helpful. Regards Irene Irene Schaffer Email: [email protected] http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi

Does anyone on this list by any chance have a copy of the book Southern genealogies of the Mallory, Vandiver, and related families, 1500-1987 by Eva Mallory Vandiver? Thanks, Barton

I have a question about census citations. On the earlier censuses (pre-1850 or thereabouts), there are 2 or more page numbers for a given page. For example, my ancestor's cousin Sion Bennett appears in the 1820 Pendleton, South Carolina census on p. 49 of 67, according to the numbers next to the left and right scroll arrows in the middle bottom of the screen; on the census page itself, the numbers 62 and 63 are in the top left corners of the facing pages and are in the same handwriting as the census entries; the number 211 is stamped on the facing page where Sion appears in the upper right corner; and there is yet another set of numbers in the upper left and right corners for both pages - 282 and 283. Does anyone know which number is the better and why? Thanks, Barton

Six months ago I did what Linda suggests, bought a laptop with Windows 7. Learned that Toshiba and Dell, perhaps there are others, still sell Windows 7. I bought mine online; you could compare with big-box retailers. Dee -- On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Linda Gutierrez via <[email protected]> wrote: > The real problem with using XP is that Microsoft has withdrawn support and > there will be no more updates and which means your system will become > vulnerable to viruses etc. Your best option is to get another computer > with newer operating system... maybe you can find a Windows 7 computer. > >

I got nosey and searched WYBRANT in Irish church records and got a bunch, all in Dublin starting in the 17th Century <G> maybe they got to Ireland with the Vikings! Mary is the first in the line so just for fun I send it <G> MARY WYBRANT Date of BirthN/R N/R N/R AddressN/R FatherBARTH WYBRANT MotherJOANE WYBRANT Further details in the record Father OccupationGENT About the record Book NumberPageEntry NumberRecord_IdentifierImage Filename N/R299N/RDU-CI-BA-154104prs3-7-michan-303 Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Dddarwin via <[email protected]> wrote: > Is anyone out there searching (or have in their family) a WYBRANT family > from Ireland? > > My part of the family came from County Wicklow in Ireland. I realize that > the surname was probably originally Norwegian but my ancestors all came from > Ireland between 1800 and 1849. > > My Great Grandmother, Jane Frances Wybrant Flynn was b. 1814 in > Sheeanamore, County Wicklow, Ireland. She was married sometime before 1844 in Ireland > to James Flynn where they had four children. > > On Nov. 6, 1849 they arrived on the ship "Hartley" which landed at New > Orleans. I must assume they and the children went by river because in the 1850 > Census they were in McDonough County, Illinois. In Feb. 1851 in Illinois > they had my Grandfather James Flynn. > > Jane's family (Andrew and Ann) arrived earlier than she did. > > If this sounds familiar to anyone please contact me. > Thanks for reading this. > Gretchen > EMAIL: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't want to teach my grannie to suck eggs <G> but have you checked the Australian births and deaths etc? You all seem to have such a good database, I took a third look at this because I have Shepherd cousins and they can be hard to find because of the spelling variations - which are many <G> Is this what sent you to WA? JamesMitchelmoreShepherdgender1916Western AustraliaFremantlecity Name:James Mitchelmore Shepherd Gender:Male Electoral Year:1916 State:Western Australia District:Fremantle Subdistrict:East Fremantle Ancestry.com. Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll] There is a chance he is in the 1926 Western Australia telephone directory still in Fremantle. Without knowing his age that is about as much as I can see <G> Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Irene Schaffer via <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear list, I am new to this list, I am seeking information on James Shepherd (James Mitchelmore Shepherd) He was in the Kimberley in the early 1900s at a place called Bulla Bulla or Moola Bulla? > It appears he went to W.A. from Queensland where his family lived (Whetstone/Toowoomba). > > Any information would be most helpful. > > > Regards > > > Irene > > > > Irene Schaffer > Email: [email protected] > http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To those who were trying to help me access Familysearch: I was using Firefox 30.0 and XP. Switched from Internet Explorer to Firefox on the advice of help at Familysearch some time ago when was no longer able to access the site. Not using Norton. Installed Chrome and now have instant access. I know my computer is on its last legs as am I. Was hoping it would outlast me. Thanks to all, JBletch

The real problem with using XP is that Microsoft has withdrawn support and there will be no more updates and which means your system will become vulnerable to viruses etc. Your best option is to get another computer with newer operating system... maybe you can find a Windows 7 computer. Linda On Jul 20, 2014 1:20 PM, "jbletch via" <[email protected]> wrote: > To those who were trying to help me access Familysearch: > > I was using Firefox 30.0 and XP. > Switched from Internet Explorer to Firefox on the advice of help at > Familysearch some time ago when was no longer able to access the site. > Not using Norton. > Installed Chrome and now have instant access. I know my computer is on its > last legs as am I. Was hoping it would outlast me. > > Thanks to all, > > JBletch > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Preserving Your Family Papers! Our Friday Freebies are starting again! Mark your calendars for August 1, high noon, at our Montgomery Plaza location (2600 W. 7th Street, Suite 162). Archivist Ketina Taylor will go over some basic preservation tips for your genealogical needs. Space is limited so reserve your spot today by emailing your contact information to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or calling 817-831-5620. Meg Hacker Archives Director, National Archives at Fort Worth 1400 John Burgess Drive Fort Worth, TX 76140 Phone Number: 817-551-2033 and 2600 West 7th Street, Suite 162 Fort Worth, TX 76107 Phone 817-831-5643 Check us out on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nationalarchivesfortworth

WHAT: General meeting of the Grapevine Historical Society WHEN: July 28, 2014 at 7:00 PM WHERE: Program Room (off the foyer) at the Grapevine Public Library, 1201 Municipal Way PROGRAM: "History of the Grapevine Fire Department" - former Fire Chief Bill Powers and current Fire Chief Steve Bass (who is retiring this July) and his successor Chief Darrell Brown Lifelong Grapevine resident and former Fire Chief Bill Powers will take us from the days when the department was formally established in 1907 as a "Bucket Brigade" through the progress of becoming the "Grapevine Volunteer Fire Department" chartered in 1921. He will talk about the building of our first fire station in 1949 and his term as Fire Chief from 1984 -1999 when the modern era of firefighting truly began with the addition of paramedics and modern equipment. Current Fire Chief Steve Bass (who will retire effective August 31, 2014 after 48 years in fire service) and his successor Chief Darrell Brown will take us through the transition of the fire department into the age of technology and the enhancement of the Emergency Management function of the department. Our current fire department has five divisions, five fire stations and over 100 officers and fire fighter/paramedics. The scope of their training and diverse responsibilities in today's world may surprise you! Come join us! Admission is free. Please invite your family and friends, too.

ODD FELLOWS: Many times the letters FLT will be found on a flag holder or on a tombstone with each letter in a link of a chain. This is actually the described logo for the Independent Order of Odd Fellows (I.O.O.F.). The letters stand for: Friendship, Love and Truth. The symbol of the three link chain goes hand-in-hand with the three words. Other branches (sub-organizations to the Odd Fellows) also go by a three word motto & logo. There is no special, additional meaning as it is placed on a headstone. It can also be found engraved in foundation cornerstones. The Independent Order of Odd Fellows is (probably) the only fraternal organization that offers a death benefit to its members, and actually has developed, supported and maintained their own cemeteries and Homes (for the aged). Although in these times, there are far fewer of these on record. The only requirement for becoming an Odd Fellow is that the applicant believe in a Supreme Being. The Order is nondenominational. See This and That Genealogy Tips, URL in my signature below, for more tips. Shirley Hornbeck - <http://www.genealogical.com/item_detail.cfm?ID=9377> <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck>

Hi ?? I can assure you that Firefox is working with familysearch quite happily and have just retested for you and no problems at all So is it another problem Have you cleared cache and cookies? Security settings to stringent? Are you using Norton by any chance ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 19/07/2014 19:16, jbletch via wrote: > A while back I was no longer able to access Familysearch, When I called them was told it was Internet Explorer > and to change browser to Firefox. That has worked well for me until recently and am no longer able to get Familysearch to work. > Several people wrote and said they were using Internet Explorer and it was working fine. I just tried ie and got > a message that it doesn't work with the current version of ie and to choose another browser. So Firefox doesn't work and my ie doesn't work where do I go from here? > > Feeling discouraged, > > JBletch

Which version of Firefox are you using? When you say that FamilySearch is not working with Firefox, what do you mean? What happens when you access familysearch.org using your browser? Drew Smith On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:16 PM, jbletch via <[email protected]> wrote: > A while back I was no longer able to access Familysearch, When I called them was told it was Internet Explorer > and to change browser to Firefox. That has worked well for me until recently and am no longer able to get Familysearch to work. > Several people wrote and said they were using Internet Explorer and it was working fine. I just tried ie and got > a message that it doesn't work with the current version of ie and to choose another browser. So Firefox doesn't work and my ie doesn't work where do I go from here?

I had to run my virus detection program, get rid of about six items, and I can do anything I want.. Allen On Jul 19, 2014 2:29 PM, "Linda Gutierrez via" <[email protected]> wrote: > Another question might be which operating system is being used and which > browser versions. A lot of online sites are pulling support for XP since > Microsoft is no longer supporting it or issuing updates. > > Linda > On Jul 19, 2014 1:16 PM, "Nivard Ovington via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi ?? > > > > I can assure you that Firefox is working with familysearch quite happily > > and have just retested for you and no problems at all > > > > So is it another problem > > > > Have you cleared cache and cookies? > > > > Security settings to stringent? > > > > Are you using Norton by any chance ? > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 19/07/2014 19:16, jbletch via wrote: > > > A while back I was no longer able to access Familysearch, When I called > > them was told it was Internet Explorer > > > and to change browser to Firefox. That has worked well for me until > > recently and am no longer able to get Familysearch to work. > > > Several people wrote and said they were using Internet Explorer and it > > was working fine. I just tried ie and got > > > a message that it doesn't work with the current version of ie and to > > choose another browser. So Firefox doesn't work and my ie doesn't work > > where do I go from here? > > > > > > Feeling discouraged, > > > > > > JBletch > > ===== > > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I just did a search on my tablet and all worked fine. I even viewed an image. Linda On Jul 18, 2014 11:17 PM, "jbletch via" <[email protected]> wrote: > Is family search not working? > I can log in and open search page but then get a message "page not found" > on any search. > Using Firefox. > JBletch > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Another question might be which operating system is being used and which browser versions. A lot of online sites are pulling support for XP since Microsoft is no longer supporting it or issuing updates. Linda On Jul 19, 2014 1:16 PM, "Nivard Ovington via" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi ?? > > I can assure you that Firefox is working with familysearch quite happily > and have just retested for you and no problems at all > > So is it another problem > > Have you cleared cache and cookies? > > Security settings to stringent? > > Are you using Norton by any chance ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 19/07/2014 19:16, jbletch via wrote: > > A while back I was no longer able to access Familysearch, When I called > them was told it was Internet Explorer > > and to change browser to Firefox. That has worked well for me until > recently and am no longer able to get Familysearch to work. > > Several people wrote and said they were using Internet Explorer and it > was working fine. I just tried ie and got > > a message that it doesn't work with the current version of ie and to > choose another browser. So Firefox doesn't work and my ie doesn't work > where do I go from here? > > > > Feeling discouraged, > > > > JBletch > ===== > If you would prefer digest mode to mail mode, drop a note to > [email protected] and ask for the digest... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >