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I had a similar thing with my maiden name. It was Florance and people who didn't know my family often thought my name was Florence Nadine (and they pronounced it as Nay dine. I had one college teacher say I told you to write your last name first -You would think people in college could follow instructions where is Miss Nay dine anyway. I then said well Florance is my last name. For that whole year I kind of felt like he was glaring at me part of the time. Guess I made him look like a fool. My dads first name was George and there was a family by the last name of George in our community. And, to make things interest5ing one my grandfathers cousins married a woman with the first name of Florence. So, she was Florence Florance. In doing genealogy I have found other spellings of this surname. One was Flourance. And. Once saw it as a hyphenated name Fleur Aunce. My uncle once sent me a bunch of stuff he said he found in a library in California about the history of our surname. Never found it anywhere myself. But, his story is that a Roman soldier captured the son a Teutonic tribesman and took the kid back to Rome where he named him Florentious and had him educated as a scribe. And, that some of his descendants made their way to France and England and then on to America. I did get a DNA hint one day that indicated someone in Australia shared DMA with me. And, my sister was once on an island off Australia and said there many people with the name Florance in a phone book she saw. I have heard two different stories of how my ancestors came to the states. One was that a guy from England was apprenticed to someone and after gaining his freedom became a landowner. The other is that he was a 19 year old in England and broke a window and was given choice of prison or transport to the colonies. I kind of wonder about the Italian part as I have a genetic anemia that is usually found in the Mediterranean area. I have one first cousin in my Florance line with it and two older second cousins of the same lineage who also had it. I had my DNA tested and at first it said I had about 1% Ixilan Greece. They now (Ancestry) show it was 55 % England, 30% Norway, and 5 % each, Ireland Scotland, Germanic Europe, and Sweden Nadine

Hi Gale, Thank you for clarifying your name. I have a son in a similar predicament - he has two middle names, which can be almost as confusing as having no middle name. All the best from Massachusetts, Marie On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:50 PM GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > Marie, > > Not the same Gale. I’m a 79 year old male born in Port Arthur, Texas. I > have explained gender miss many times so it is expected. > > My mother named me for the then radio actor, Gale Gordon. He was probably > best known as Lucy’s boss on TV. I almost got Gale Gordon Gorman but Mother > said that was just a mouthful. I’ve had to explain the lack of a middle > name almost as often as my gender. > > Gale > > > > On Feb 25, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Marie MacDonald <mimsfamilytrees@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Good evening, > > I would agree with Gale on her point. Email is becoming outdated as well, > even though a lot of us still rely on it. As well, I went to high school in > Dedham, Massachusetts with a Gale Gorman. We were the class of 1975 (I'm > dating myself LOL). What are the chances you are the same person? > > See everyone on the new email list. I too am sorry to see an old friend go > away! > > Marie MacDonald > Massachusetts > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:11 PM GALE GORMAN via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > All mailing lists are going away and it has nothing to do with genealogy. > In the past few decades I have subscribed to mail lists for old British > motorcycles, old GMC motorhomes, old Chevrolet pickup trucks, etc. and they > are all going away. This is NOT a conspiracy but it is due to a shift in > interest and access. The keyword may be “old” in the various interests I > listed. > > Often you see a new user complain that they cannot upload a photograph or > something similar. This is a holdover from the early days on the internet, > or Usenet when every communication was text only. > > The first “invasion” was from Windows and the graphic user interface (GUI) > and that morphed into Facebook. > > Have you also noticed that cameras as we knew them are gone? > > Now my granddaughter snaps pictures with her iPhone of each new > achievement from my great grandson and posts them on Facebook for all to > share. > > It will be interesting to see how this shapes our futures. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > >

Marie, Not the same Gale. I’m a 79 year old male born in Port Arthur, Texas. I have explained gender miss many times so it is expected. My mother named me for the then radio actor, Gale Gordon. He was probably best known as Lucy’s boss on TV. I almost got Gale Gordon Gorman but Mother said that was just a mouthful. I’ve had to explain the lack of a middle name almost as often as my gender. Gale On Feb 25, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Marie MacDonald <mimsfamilytrees@gmail.com> wrote: Good evening, I would agree with Gale on her point. Email is becoming outdated as well, even though a lot of us still rely on it. As well, I went to high school in Dedham, Massachusetts with a Gale Gorman. We were the class of 1975 (I'm dating myself LOL). What are the chances you are the same person? See everyone on the new email list. I too am sorry to see an old friend go away! Marie MacDonald Massachusetts On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:11 PM GALE GORMAN via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: All mailing lists are going away and it has nothing to do with genealogy. In the past few decades I have subscribed to mail lists for old British motorcycles, old GMC motorhomes, old Chevrolet pickup trucks, etc. and they are all going away. This is NOT a conspiracy but it is due to a shift in interest and access. The keyword may be “old” in the various interests I listed. Often you see a new user complain that they cannot upload a photograph or something similar. This is a holdover from the early days on the internet, or Usenet when every communication was text only. The first “invasion” was from Windows and the graphic user interface (GUI) and that morphed into Facebook. Have you also noticed that cameras as we knew them are gone? Now my granddaughter snaps pictures with her iPhone of each new achievement from my great grandson and posts them on Facebook for all to share. It will be interesting to see how this shapes our futures. Gale Gorman Houston On Feb 25, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: Bonnie We appreciate that there are folks who don't "speak up," neither do I unless I think I can help someone. In that regard, I have to ask, as I did someone else, regarding your statement: "On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit." From what source was this information? What information "used to be freely available" that is not now? And, what evidence is there that "they" are creating a monopoly? If anything, in my decades on and off the web, I've never seen so many sources of information. Not all very good information, you understand, but certainly there's a lot of it. I also feel that information is never "free." SOMEONE is paying for the information at the source - the county who keeps the records and hires the staff, the website the county puts up, and the personnel to run it, etc. Some information is posted by volunteers, using their own money to support it. That doesn't make it "free" it just makes it free to the user. My thinking is that we, the consumers, should treat this the same way we should treat ANY source of "information." Check your sources. Are they based on facts and figures? Or, are they "feelings." Pat In Tucson > -----Original Message----- > From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:13 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer <bocasch@ymail.com> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? > > > I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people > like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t > pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research > information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. > > I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of > information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On > the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites > and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once > freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and > are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. > > I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that > dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of > historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here > and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time > schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame > and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for > profit. > > If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is > being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all > those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected > shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my > heartfelt thanks. > > Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer > Bocasch@ymail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Pauline There is a certain irony in your request Given you include a whole digest complete with several footers Then add a tag line which is three times larger than the post you made ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/02/2020 02:10, Pauline Costianes via ROOTS wrote: > Hey everybody, can you please trim yourposts and not include all the previous posts?It's a bit much to wade through.. >     Pauline  We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once.Friedrich Nietzsche > Unregulated capitalism values profit over human life and suffering. > If it is important to you, you WILL find a way.  If it's not, you'll find an excuse.Author Unknown

But they are free ! As are LDS FHCs If you can't afford subscriptions, free sounds pretty good to me even if they are restricted Most libraries, even though restricted to half hour sessions are not always booked up solid, as when the quiet times are and go then If you use Ancestry at home without subscribing you can draw up a list of records to check You can do an awful lot in half an hour if you plan it As far as I know the only thing restricted with the Library edition is the Ancestry member trees Now they are the last resort so hardly a loss Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/02/2020 15:10, wbarreto@centurylink.net wrote: > The library edition of Ancestry is limited, not the same as a paid > version. Many libraries limit computer time to half hour segments.  Our > local library has seven computers, two of which are for catalog searches > only. Libraries are mostly a last resort option for some.

Time to move on. Sent from Sharon’s iPhone 6 Plus > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:10 AM, <wbarreto@centurylink.net> <wbarreto@centurylink.net> wrote: > > The library edition of Ancestry is limited, not the same as a paid version. Many libraries limit computer time to half hour segments. Our local library has seven computers, two of which are for catalog searches only. Libraries are mostly a last resort option for some. > > -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 2:32 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: Final days? > > Hi Bonnie > > Did you read my previous posts? > > You are aware I assume that Ancestry took over Rootsweb in the year > 2000, and has supplied the lists and other facilities for twenty years > all free of charge > > As I tried to explain earlier, the usage of the lists have dwindled, so > I am not surprised at all that they are closing them > > The archives will remain searchable however > > But we have a new home on groups.io and is entirely free, have you > joined yet? > > They work just the same as Rootsweb lists only a lot better > > I would be very interested to know what these free and helpful sites > are, that have been added to Ancestry under a paywall > > Do you have any names of these sites please? > > You are aware that Ancestry have a lot of free information on their site? > > Have you checked your local library who may have free access to Ancestry > (and other sites) > > Or do you have a familysearch family history centre near enough to > access, as they too have free access to Ancestry & Findmypast > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 25/02/2020 20:13, Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS wrote: >> >> I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. >> >> I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. >> >> I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for profit. >> >> If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my heartfelt thanks. >> >> Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer >> Bocasch@ymail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ===== > ROOTS-L is moving to a new host. Join us there! https://groups.io/g/roots-l > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The library edition of Ancestry is limited, not the same as a paid version. Many libraries limit computer time to half hour segments. Our local library has seven computers, two of which are for catalog searches only. Libraries are mostly a last resort option for some. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 2:32 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: Final days? Hi Bonnie Did you read my previous posts? You are aware I assume that Ancestry took over Rootsweb in the year 2000, and has supplied the lists and other facilities for twenty years all free of charge As I tried to explain earlier, the usage of the lists have dwindled, so I am not surprised at all that they are closing them The archives will remain searchable however But we have a new home on groups.io and is entirely free, have you joined yet? They work just the same as Rootsweb lists only a lot better I would be very interested to know what these free and helpful sites are, that have been added to Ancestry under a paywall Do you have any names of these sites please? You are aware that Ancestry have a lot of free information on their site? Have you checked your local library who may have free access to Ancestry (and other sites) Or do you have a familysearch family history centre near enough to access, as they too have free access to Ancestry & Findmypast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/02/2020 20:13, Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS wrote: > > I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of > people like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it > doesn’t pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and > research information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my > interest. > > I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of > information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. > On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful > sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was > once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy > information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. > > I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that > dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth > of historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small > charges here and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on > a limited time schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many > of us. It’s a shame and almost criminal that this free sharing of > information is going away for profit. > > If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system > is being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For > all those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and > corrected shared information to make the information more accurate, I give > my heartfelt thanks. > > Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer > Bocasch@ymail.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 2:39 PM Ann's Graphics via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > remove from list > > mzann13@aol.com > > > On Feb 25, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Ruth Enns <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > Thanks, Ruth. > > > > > > Sent from Ruth`s. iPad . > > > >> On Feb 25, 2020, at 7:40 AM, beverly via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Some of the lectures offered at Rootstech this year will be streamed > live. > >> > >> > >> > >> The schedule is here: > >> > >> > >> > >> https://www.rootstech.org/salt-lake/live-stream-schedule > >> > >> > >> > >> Additional lectures will be available for purchase. > >> > >> > >> > >> Past Rootstech events are also available on the website. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Good evening, I would agree with Gale on her point. Email is becoming outdated as well, even though a lot of us still rely on it. As well, I went to high school in Dedham, Massachusetts with a Gale Gorman. We were the class of 1975 (I'm dating myself LOL). What are the chances you are the same person? See everyone on the new email list. I too am sorry to see an old friend go away! Marie MacDonald Massachusetts On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:11 PM GALE GORMAN via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > All mailing lists are going away and it has nothing to do with genealogy. > In the past few decades I have subscribed to mail lists for old British > motorcycles, old GMC motorhomes, old Chevrolet pickup trucks, etc. and they > are all going away. This is NOT a conspiracy but it is due to a shift in > interest and access. The keyword may be “old” in the various interests I > listed. > > Often you see a new user complain that they cannot upload a photograph or > something similar. This is a holdover from the early days on the internet, > or Usenet when every communication was text only. > > The first “invasion” was from Windows and the graphic user interface (GUI) > and that morphed into Facebook. > > Have you also noticed that cameras as we knew them are gone? > > Now my granddaughter snaps pictures with her iPhone of each new > achievement from my great grandson and posts them on Facebook for all to > share. > > It will be interesting to see how this shapes our futures. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On Feb 25, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > > Bonnie > We appreciate that there are folks who don't "speak up," neither do I > unless I think I can help someone. > > In that regard, I have to ask, as I did someone else, regarding your > statement: "On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away > free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for > information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on > genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit." > > From what source was this information? What information "used to be freely > available" that is not now? And, what evidence is there that "they" are > creating a monopoly? If anything, in my decades on and off the web, I've > never seen so many sources of information. Not all very good information, > you understand, but certainly there's a lot of it. > > I also feel that information is never "free." SOMEONE is paying for the > information at the source - the county who keeps the records and hires the > staff, the website the county puts up, and the personnel to run it, etc. > Some information is posted by volunteers, using their own money to support > it. That doesn't make it "free" it just makes it free to the user. > > My thinking is that we, the consumers, should treat this the same way we > should treat ANY source of "information." Check your sources. Are they > based on facts and figures? Or, are they "feelings." > > Pat > In Tucson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:13 PM > > To: roots@rootsweb.com > > Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer <bocasch@ymail.com> > > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? > > > > > > I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of > people > > like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it > doesn’t > > pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research > > information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my > interest. > > > > I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of > > information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. > On > > the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful > sites > > and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once > > freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information > and > > are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. > > > > I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that > > dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing > wealth of > > historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small > charges here > > and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited > time > > schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a > shame > > and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away > for > > profit. > > > > If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system > is > > being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all > > those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected > > shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my > > heartfelt thanks. > > > > Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer > > Bocasch@ymail.com > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hey everybody, can you please trim yourposts and not include all the previous posts?It's a bit much to wade through..     Pauline  We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once.Friedrich Nietzsche Unregulated capitalism values profit over human life and suffering. If it is important to you, you WILL find a way.  If it's not, you'll find an excuse.Author Unknown   On Tuesday, February 25, 2020, 11:27:09 AM EST, roots-request@rootsweb.com <roots-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send ROOTS mailing list submissions to roots@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to roots-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to roots-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at roots-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ROOTS digest..." And please don't  quote the entire digest ... a few lines from the message to which you are responding or (better still) a brief summary of that message will do. Thanks! To unsubscribe, send a message to roots-leave@rootsweb.com. Today's Topics:   1. Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com (J Asche)   2. Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com (Dave)   3. Re: Rootstech 2020 (Ruth Enns)   4. Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com       (Janet Wilson-Beavers) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:51:26 -0500 From: J Asche <jasche45133@gmail.com> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com To: ROOTS-L Mailing List <roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAOKQntHApD-Z=kW9pV4irTDC7f6k1jvguJErdgT3nppnhF783w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes, I too would like to know what sites Ancestry brought  only to close it down?  I doesn't make good business to buy something only to shut it down. They only site that comes to my mind was genealogy.com and I don't remember if that site was purchased by ancestry? I've kept quite through all of these discussion until now, but I wasn't surprised to learn that the lists were closing down.  The lists have become a unused resource.  I think it's mostly because there is more data now available on the Internet that was not available during the heyday of list popularity .  Researchers can more easily do their own research. Don't get me wrong, I grieve the loss of the mailing lists, but I'm not surprised. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:20 AM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Entirely up to you but I wouldn't waste your time personally > > The reason the lists are being closed is quite simple, people haven't > been using them > > It has to be said that Ancestry had a part to play in that but it wasn't > for the lack of trying to get them going again, why would they expend > time, money and energy on trying to keep the lists going instead of > closing them long ago, perhaps if they had done a better job of it they > wouldn't have been virtually dormant > > As to buying up other useful sites, then closing them, I often see that > said but when asked which sites I don't often a get a reply, and when > they do its usually wrong information they have, I would be interested > to know what sites you refer to ? > > Not sticking up for Ancestry but I prefer facts to hearsay > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 18/02/2020 18:00, Diane C. Russell wrote: > > Ancestry will undoubtedly have a large presence at Rootstech in Salt Lake > > City next week, just days before they kill the mailing lists.  Although > I'm > > sure they don't really care what we think, I plan to provide some > feedback > > while I'm there--aboth both this specific issue and Ancestry's history of > > buying up other useful sites only to shut them down with no satisfactory > > replacement and only minor concern for the preservation of data on those > > sites. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:53:07 -0500 From: "Dave" <dave.richardson@att.net> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com To: "'ROOTS-L Mailing List'" <roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <010401d5ebf3$acc01f30$06405d90$@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii" I could not agree more. We tend to forget the amount of trash in RootsWeb that was blindly copied from everyone else and the IGI. It was a great way to send info by way of lists. But all that is history. Let us not repeat it. I am 84 and have over 1000  DNA cousin, I cannot keep up. Three cheers for Ancestry, 23and me and GEDmatch. Be safe out there and if it is dumb don't do it. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:18 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com Entirely up to you but I wouldn't waste your time personally The reason the lists are being closed is quite simple, people haven't been using them It has to be said that Ancestry had a part to play in that but it wasn't for the lack of trying to get them going again, why would they expend time, money and energy on trying to keep the lists going instead of closing them long ago, perhaps if they had done a better job of it they wouldn't have been virtually dormant As to buying up other useful sites, then closing them, I often see that said but when asked which sites I don't often a get a reply, and when they do its usually wrong information they have, I would be interested to know what sites you refer to ? Not sticking up for Ancestry but I prefer facts to hearsay Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 18/02/2020 18:00, Diane C. Russell wrote: > Ancestry will undoubtedly have a large presence at Rootstech in Salt > Lake City next week, just days before they kill the mailing lists.  > Although I'm sure they don't really care what we think, I plan to > provide some feedback while I'm there--aboth both this specific issue > and Ancestry's history of buying up other useful sites only to shut > them down with no satisfactory replacement and only minor concern for > the preservation of data on those sites. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:00:40 -0800 From: Ruth Enns <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: Rootstech 2020 To: ROOTS-L Mailing List <roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00872549-A7BA-4B19-B268-1701D048099E@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain;      charset=us-ascii Thanks,  Ruth. Sent from Ruth`s. iPad . > On Feb 25, 2020, at 7:40 AM, beverly via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Some of the lectures offered at Rootstech this year will be streamed live. > > > > The schedule is here: > > > > https://www.rootstech.org/salt-lake/live-stream-schedule > > > > Additional lectures will be available for purchase. > > > > Past Rootstech events are also available on the website. > > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:22:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Janet Wilson-Beavers <janetwilsonbeavers@yahoo.com> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: ROOTS-L's final days here at RootsWeb.com To: ROOTS-L Mailing List <roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <967170353.265447.1582647775855@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Mr. Ovington, I will miss your comments and the knowledge you have shared, I am mostly English and some Portuguese verified by Ancestry DNA testing. That being said, Ancestry has been very useful in my genealogy research. Thank you. Janet Wilson  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android   On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 7:21 AM, Nivard Ovington<ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote:  Entirely up to you but I wouldn't waste your time personally The reason the lists are being closed is quite simple, people haven't been using them It has to be said that Ancestry had a part to play in that but it wasn't for the lack of trying to get them going again, why would they expend time, money and energy on trying to keep the lists going instead of closing them long ago, perhaps if they had done a better job of it they wouldn't have been virtually dormant As to buying up other useful sites, then closing them, I often see that said but when asked which sites I don't often a get a reply, and when they do its usually wrong information they have, I would be interested to know what sites you refer to ? Not sticking up for Ancestry but I prefer facts to hearsay Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 18/02/2020 18:00, Diane C. Russell wrote: > Ancestry will undoubtedly have a large presence at Rootstech in Salt Lake > City next week, just days before they kill the mailing lists.  Although I'm > sure they don't really care what we think, I plan to provide some feedback > while I'm there--aboth both this specific issue and Ancestry's history of > buying up other useful sites only to shut them down with no satisfactory > replacement and only minor concern for the preservation of data on those > sites. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community   End of ROOTS Digest, Vol 15, Issue 9 ************************************

Amen to this. Thank you for so expressing my thoughts and actions so accurately. Bonnie. -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS [mailto:roots@rootsweb.com] Sent: February-25-20 12:13 PM To: roots@rootsweb.com Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn't pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research information shared on this site to be sure it isn't related to my interest. I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. I've been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of historical information to help people like me. I can't afford small charges here and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It's a shame and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for profit. If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my heartfelt thanks. Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer Bocasch@ymail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Gail, Thank you for the clarification of all mail lists evolving. I hadn’t noticed much change in this with other topics mail lists. You may be right, and I’ll soon see those disappearing as well. Today’s technology has increased easier and faster communication. Response to my comments is a perfect example! Some technology is very good. Some needs improvements. Many of my friends and relatives that have used cell phones for photography have gone back to cameras for better quality. Same with the old “vinyl records” instead of CDs. The old have qualities that haven’t been replaced with equal accuracy, so as I predicted when I was told to get rid of old vinyl records, they would return because the sound is better. We all want to advance and improve in all aspects. This mailing list change, being one of them. I only responded in hopes that this is for the better and inquiring how and what this is being replaced by. I don’t believe there’s any conspiracy behind changes. I appreciate that we have been informed this change is near and I hope to learn of the improvements and availability so I can have a better understanding of the updates and not be uninformed. So, I thank you and everyone for their responses. Regards, Bonnie Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2020, at 2:11 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > > All mailing lists are going away and it has nothing to do with genealogy. In the past few decades I have subscribed to mail lists for old British motorcycles, old GMC motorhomes, old Chevrolet pickup trucks, etc. and they are all going away. This is NOT a conspiracy but it is due to a shift in interest and access. The keyword may be “old” in the various interests I listed. > > Often you see a new user complain that they cannot upload a photograph or something similar. This is a holdover from the early days on the internet, or Usenet when every communication was text only. > > The first “invasion” was from Windows and the graphic user interface (GUI) and that morphed into Facebook. > > Have you also noticed that cameras as we knew them are gone? > > Now my granddaughter snaps pictures with her iPhone of each new achievement from my great grandson and posts them on Facebook for all to share. > > It will be interesting to see how this shapes our futures. > > Gale Gorman > Houston > > > On Feb 25, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > > Bonnie > We appreciate that there are folks who don't "speak up," neither do I unless I think I can help someone. > > In that regard, I have to ask, as I did someone else, regarding your statement: "On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit." > > From what source was this information? What information "used to be freely available" that is not now? And, what evidence is there that "they" are creating a monopoly? If anything, in my decades on and off the web, I've never seen so many sources of information. Not all very good information, you understand, but certainly there's a lot of it. > > I also feel that information is never "free." SOMEONE is paying for the information at the source - the county who keeps the records and hires the staff, the website the county puts up, and the personnel to run it, etc. Some information is posted by volunteers, using their own money to support it. That doesn't make it "free" it just makes it free to the user. > > My thinking is that we, the consumers, should treat this the same way we should treat ANY source of "information." Check your sources. Are they based on facts and figures? Or, are they "feelings." > > Pat > In Tucson > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:13 PM >> To: roots@rootsweb.com >> Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer <bocasch@ymail.com> >> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? >> >> >> I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people >> like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t >> pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research >> information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. >> >> I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of >> information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On >> the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites >> and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once >> freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and >> are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. >> >> I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that >> dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of >> historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here >> and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time >> schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame >> and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for >> profit. >> >> If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is >> being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all >> those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected >> shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my >> heartfelt thanks. >> >> Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer >> Bocasch@ymail.com >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Pat, Thank you for your response. As I said, I utilize these resources on a random limited schedule. Through the years, many years back, I have had some groups change into fee based organizations, or bought by another group which then required a paid membership. I apologize that I’m unable to provide more accurate information such as the names of these groups or membership changes since they’re from years ago and I didn’t keep the information once a fee was required. I’ve been a member of Roots for quite some time. Members have shared some of these no fee sites that had information that expanded on certain topics which has always been helpful. If you go way back and look at some of these sites that were provided and shared on Roots, you may be able to find some that I’m referring to. Then again, the names may have changed or no longer exist. I can’t say. I agree nothing is actually free. We all share information that may have cost time and energy researching in order to share accurately. Yes, the county, city and other government agencies have costs regarding record keeping. But remember, all Government Agencies, staff, websites, buildings...are paid by the taxpayers, us. That’s why you can obtain information from their offices at no charge. I’m referring to sites that charge fees upfront, some gathering and using publicly available information, not those that have members generously sharing freely or even Public accessible sites. I realize there are many more websites that continue to grow, offering resources to the public. Like you said, some not so accurate. But most have a section allowing editing if you know the correct information and want to help to improve shared information. I do support some of these sites by using them. Some are no upfront costs, some require payments. I am only referring to Roots and former sites that once were available without upfront costs that developed a strong, more accurate resource. I meant no disrespect or insult to Ancestry and other fee based sites. They do a wonderful job preserving information. But they do require payment for information that they have collected, which also includes data available to the public such as Census Records and others. I understand that they charge for the convenience of having a larger array of resources under one website. Maybe I’m misinformed on the process of how these other sites are set up and available to the public that are being discussed. This is an area that I know little of and appreciate any education offered for a better understanding of the overall network. Regards, Bonnie Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > > Bonnie > We appreciate that there are folks who don't "speak up," neither do I unless I think I can help someone. > > In that regard, I have to ask, as I did someone else, regarding your statement: "On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit." > > From what source was this information? What information "used to be freely available" that is not now? And, what evidence is there that "they" are creating a monopoly? If anything, in my decades on and off the web, I've never seen so many sources of information. Not all very good information, you understand, but certainly there's a lot of it. > > I also feel that information is never "free." SOMEONE is paying for the information at the source - the county who keeps the records and hires the staff, the website the county puts up, and the personnel to run it, etc. Some information is posted by volunteers, using their own money to support it. That doesn't make it "free" it just makes it free to the user. > > My thinking is that we, the consumers, should treat this the same way we should treat ANY source of "information." Check your sources. Are they based on facts and figures? Or, are they "feelings." > > Pat > In Tucson > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:13 PM >> To: roots@rootsweb.com >> Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer <bocasch@ymail.com> >> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? >> >> >> I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people >> like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t >> pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research >> information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. >> >> I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of >> information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On >> the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites >> and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once >> freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and >> are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. >> >> I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that >> dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of >> historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here >> and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time >> schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame >> and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for >> profit. >> >> If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is >> being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all >> those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected >> shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my >> heartfelt thanks. >> >> Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer >> Bocasch@ymail.com >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >

All mailing lists are going away and it has nothing to do with genealogy. In the past few decades I have subscribed to mail lists for old British motorcycles, old GMC motorhomes, old Chevrolet pickup trucks, etc. and they are all going away. This is NOT a conspiracy but it is due to a shift in interest and access. The keyword may be “old” in the various interests I listed. Often you see a new user complain that they cannot upload a photograph or something similar. This is a holdover from the early days on the internet, or Usenet when every communication was text only. The first “invasion” was from Windows and the graphic user interface (GUI) and that morphed into Facebook. Have you also noticed that cameras as we knew them are gone? Now my granddaughter snaps pictures with her iPhone of each new achievement from my great grandson and posts them on Facebook for all to share. It will be interesting to see how this shapes our futures. Gale Gorman Houston On Feb 25, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: Bonnie We appreciate that there are folks who don't "speak up," neither do I unless I think I can help someone. In that regard, I have to ask, as I did someone else, regarding your statement: "On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit." From what source was this information? What information "used to be freely available" that is not now? And, what evidence is there that "they" are creating a monopoly? If anything, in my decades on and off the web, I've never seen so many sources of information. Not all very good information, you understand, but certainly there's a lot of it. I also feel that information is never "free." SOMEONE is paying for the information at the source - the county who keeps the records and hires the staff, the website the county puts up, and the personnel to run it, etc. Some information is posted by volunteers, using their own money to support it. That doesn't make it "free" it just makes it free to the user. My thinking is that we, the consumers, should treat this the same way we should treat ANY source of "information." Check your sources. Are they based on facts and figures? Or, are they "feelings." Pat In Tucson > -----Original Message----- > From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:13 PM > To: roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer <bocasch@ymail.com> > Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? > > > I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people > like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t > pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research > information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. > > I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of > information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On > the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites > and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once > freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and > are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. > > I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that > dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of > historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here > and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time > schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame > and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for > profit. > > If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is > being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all > those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected > shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my > heartfelt thanks. > > Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer > Bocasch@ymail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Bonnie Did you read my previous posts? You are aware I assume that Ancestry took over Rootsweb in the year 2000, and has supplied the lists and other facilities for twenty years all free of charge As I tried to explain earlier, the usage of the lists have dwindled, so I am not surprised at all that they are closing them The archives will remain searchable however But we have a new home on groups.io and is entirely free, have you joined yet? They work just the same as Rootsweb lists only a lot better I would be very interested to know what these free and helpful sites are, that have been added to Ancestry under a paywall Do you have any names of these sites please? You are aware that Ancestry have a lot of free information on their site? Have you checked your local library who may have free access to Ancestry (and other sites) Or do you have a familysearch family history centre near enough to access, as they too have free access to Ancestry & Findmypast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/02/2020 20:13, Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS wrote: > > I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. > > I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. > > I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for profit. > > If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my heartfelt thanks. > > Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer > Bocasch@ymail.com

Bonnie We appreciate that there are folks who don't "speak up," neither do I unless I think I can help someone. In that regard, I have to ask, as I did someone else, regarding your statement: "On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit." From what source was this information? What information "used to be freely available" that is not now? And, what evidence is there that "they" are creating a monopoly? If anything, in my decades on and off the web, I've never seen so many sources of information. Not all very good information, you understand, but certainly there's a lot of it. I also feel that information is never "free." SOMEONE is paying for the information at the source - the county who keeps the records and hires the staff, the website the county puts up, and the personnel to run it, etc. Some information is posted by volunteers, using their own money to support it. That doesn't make it "free" it just makes it free to the user. My thinking is that we, the consumers, should treat this the same way we should treat ANY source of "information." Check your sources. Are they based on facts and figures? Or, are they "feelings." Pat In Tucson >-----Original Message----- >From: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer via ROOTS <roots@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 1:13 PM >To: roots@rootsweb.com >Cc: Bonnie Campbell schmelzer <bocasch@ymail.com> >Subject: [ROOTS-L] Final days? > > >I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people >like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t >pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research >information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. > >I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of >information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On >the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites >and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once >freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and >are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. > >I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that >dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of >historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here >and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time >schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame >and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for >profit. > >If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is >being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all >those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected >shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my >heartfelt thanks. > >Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer >Bocasch@ymail.com > >Sent from my iPhone > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/roots@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

I understand that it may seem not many are using this site because of people like me. I check and read every message, but have no response if it doesn’t pertain to my genealogy. However, behind the scenes, I use and research information shared on this site to be sure it isn’t related to my interest. I respect that Ancestry has done a great job of preserving records of information in order to accommodate people researching family histories. On the other hand, I am frustrated that they are taking away free helpful sites and adding to their website only to charge for information that was once freely available. They have a growing monopoly on genealogy information and are making a fortune hoarding records for profit. I’ve been very thankful for Rootsweb and other wonderful free sites that dedicated people have diligently collected and preserved a growing wealth of historical information to help people like me. I can’t afford small charges here and there, or costly memberships when I can only research on a limited time schedule. Free sites are important and necessary for many of us. It’s a shame and almost criminal that this free sharing of information is going away for profit. If my point of view is incorrect, please enlighten me on how this system is being affected and the changes of how to obtain free information. For all those that have worked so hard, those that have contributed and corrected shared information to make the information more accurate, I give my heartfelt thanks. Bonnie Campbell-Schmelzer Bocasch@ymail.com Sent from my iPhone