Dear Robin, I have the GEDCOM! It consisting of 8 generations of Sarah Virginia SHIPMAN's ancestors plus 3 generations of those ancestor's descendants. Part of the line goes back to the 16th century. There are 599 people included. There is lots of documentation. Milt Rankin has been researching the family, and was kind enough to send the file. Rather than mess around sending the information one small piece at a time, would you like me to send the GEDCOM? Can you handle a .ZIPped file? The .ZIP file is 59,002 bytes. Plain .GED would be 281,015 bytes. Anyone else want the GEDCOM? Sincerely, William Henry Roll [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ William Henry Roll Blythe, California [email protected] The Roll Family Genealogy Windmill http://members.aol.com/whroll "A thousand candles have burned themselves out; yet I read on."