Okay, now we have Nancy's information concerning the deed. A deed is a fairly reliable piece of data to discern information from, isn't it? Wow, and to see Tryntje's name mentioned several times within the deed, makes it almost striking evidence that Jan Mangelse was married to Tryntje. It would be interesting to see if anyone has done reseach on Claes Jansen van BOCKHOVEN to see if his wife's name was Volkie Janse. That might be something for me to look into. Any thoughts on this? Could someone have misunderstood that deed's phrasing? A question to be answered!!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Nancy, & the deed. Audrey