At 09:07 PM 11-20-1997 -0600, you wrote: > I have been checking out some of your information on WINDMILL. This is >about Adelia Francis Roll b. 11/10/1824 and d. 10/18/1899 age 74. She >married, you have, George W. Felch. I have Chancellor (?) Felch. Adelia >Francis Roll was the 6th child of James & 2nd wife, Julia Denman Shipman >Roll. On her page, I have her husband listed as Felch, with (Chancellor or >George) beneath it. I have: > > Ref: ROLL BIBLE in possession of Mr. George Felch, Florhan Park, N.J. > D.A.R. Records contributed by R.B. Hedges, Madison, N.J. > >This Bible Record also listed Jonathan Hedges who died 04/291814 age 57 >years. Mary Hedges, wife of Jonathan Hedges, who died 03/20/1837 age 69 >years. Charles Hedges, son of Jonathan & Mary Hedges died October 1821 age >21 years. > > Was this Jonathan & Mary Hedges, the parents of Charity O. Hedges, 3rd >wife of James Roll? > >The Bible Record also listed George R. Welch, died 11/17/1860 age 71 years. >George W. Welch, died 10/07/1899 age 77 years. Chancellor Felch, died >09/05/1896 age 76 or 16 years. (my typing) > > Was this more of my typos or was this the beginning of a name change from >Welch to Felch? I have all her children listed as Felch. >Martha > >Attachment Converted: "C:\GENEALOG\AttnBill.htm" > Martha, I also got the message about Stephen Berkley Roll. So noted. My documentation practices are poor, and I know better. I just started genealogy in May or June of this year. I have been mostly collecting off the Web, and, as you know, documentation is scarce there. I have been taken up in a rush to collect names and relationships, and now regret the lack of citations. Some of the dates are wacky, one ancestor married on the day of his birth...Robin pointed this out. The information on my Web pages is mostly undocumented for the generations after my great great grandfather Jonathan Smith ROLL (1828-1904) and spouse Lucinda KIDD (1834-1902.) Ancestors before this have documentation mainly from Nancy. Robin has information about Lucinda KIDDs line at... http://members.aol.com/RLCww/ but her line doesn't go back very far. I have some information on Jonathan and Lucinda's son Joseph Hedges ROLL (1854-1937) and spouse Anna Louise LARSON (1856-1930) that I got from Frank CRAMER (Let me know if you want his address, he's a ROLL researcher descended from Joseph; but he's not on the Net.) Unfortunately, I have not responded to his snailmail yet. I have little information about my great grandfather William Henry ROLL (1862-1899) and his spouse Sarah SHIPMAN ( -1957). I have been seeking information about Sarah and her ancestors. I believe that I knew Sarah when I lived in New Jersey, but that was back in the 40s and I can't remember very well. I may have some pictures of her, some with me perhaps, but without identification. My father's middle name is HEDGES: David HEDGES ROLL, Sr (1913-1992). My brother's middle name is HEDGES: The Reverend David HEDGES ROLL, Jr. (1944-living). And, as I mentioned above, Jonathan and Lucinda's son Joseph HEDGES ROLL. When I asked my father in the 60s about the name HEDGES, he only responded that it was "the last name of a very close family friend," and didn't elaborate. I noticed Charity HEDGES, third spouse of James ROLL, and always wondered what the connection was. James was born in the 18th century, and that's awfully far back to be a "close family friend." I also notice that James' second spouse was Julia SHIPMAN. I wonder if she was not related to Sarah SHIPMAN, spouse of William Henry ROLL. I don't know if Jonathan and Mary HEDGES were the parents of Charity O. HEDGES, the third spouse of James ROLL. I wasn't aware of the "O." as Charity's middle name. I wonder of this is the initial of her mother's surname. Since my two brothers have surnames for middle names: David HEDGES ROLL, and Philip LENNON ROLL ([1948-living] LENNON is my mother's maiden name,) I had presumed my middle name HENRY was also a surname. Robin has HENRYs related to the KIDDs on her Web page, but the HENRY middle name in the ROLL line predates Lucinda KIDD. Your information is very interesting, and provides me some leads. I've done research so far only through: 1. Contact with other genealogists. 2. Searching the Web. 3. Buying and searching books. I have a vague idea how to conduct research for primary documentation, but don't have the foggiest where to start. I know birth and death records can be accessed. The nearest genealogical library is 200 miles away. There is an LDS Family History Center in town, but I haven't visited it yet. It can't be very big in an isolated town of only 20,000. Thanks for the information, Martha. Please be patient, sometimes it's a while before I respond. Teaching middle school is an ~exhausting~ experience nowadays (been at it 29 years), and I'm a procrastinator as well. Three out of five teachers quit the profession within their first three years! I wouldn't have stuck with it if I didn't like kids, though. -Bill _______________________________________________________________ William Henry Roll Blythe, California [email protected] The genealogy of the ROLL, MANGEL and VAN WOGGELUM families on the World Wide Web at http://members.aol.com/whroll "A thousand candles have burned themselves out; yet I read on."