Hi all, Thanks everyone who wrote back in response to my first Rall/Roll Query on the mailing list. I got the general picture about the Ralls/Rolls, Mangel, and all, and some hints for my Phebe Rall b 1800 in Rockland Co, NY. It would seem maybe her father is either James or John Rall/ Roll who were both in Rockland Co, NY at about Phebe's birth time, and that maybe they are brothers and both sons of another earlier John Rall, but there is nothing defintite connecting Phebe to the family. Does anyone have any further specifics on my line?? Thanks once again. Georgie Mitchell