Hi Georgianna, Welcome to the Roll/Rall, all spellings surname list. My Rall family started out as Roll, but the change of spelling took place in Ohio. Do you have any of the names of the towns your Phebe Rall lived in? Several of us on the list descend from Jan Mangel who was born abt 1635, the earliest mention of him (that I have) was in 1661 when he acknowledged in court he owed his father-in-law. We believe he married in 1660 Albany,NY. He owned land in Schenectady. His children changed their name to the English ROLL. Most of them ended up around Staten Island, then some went to New Jersey, then further west. There is another on the list whose RALL family lived in western NY state, maybe she can help. It may take awhile as she had twin boys less than six months ago. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net