Bill, Ron and I are astounded! Yes, AOL has been giving us all fits this last week! It took 7 1/2 hrs to get an e-mail from another server from Orlando to Tampa (80 mi)! We can't thank you enough for the wonderful info you have shared - this opens up a hugh new world to explore! Can't wait to dig into each of these references, and will keep the group advised as we go along. Sounds like our "ROLL" line, pronounced "RALL" may be totally different from any of the ones your group is researching. Is there anyone else who recognizes this line? would love to hear from you. And again, Bill, our sincere appreciation for taking your time to help us. Ron and Dot