My direct line (as I have it) is: Jan Mangelese m. Volkie Janse Adrianensen Mangel Jansen Roll m. Annetje Hendriex Volcx Jan (Johannes) Mangel Roll, m. Altje Bas Johannes (John) Mangel Roll, m. Mary Nevis Benjamin Roll, m. Sarah Culbertson John Roll, m. Mary Westfall Harvey Roll, m. Martha Jane Cunningham George Washington Roll, m. Martha Florence Morris Lloyd Leland Roll, m. Grace Aletha Bliss Betty Grace Roll, m. Jack Lee Holt If this connects with any of your lines, I'll be happy to share what I have with you. Betty (Roll) Holt Tulsa, Oklahoma