"THOSE IMMIGRANT ANCESTORS #2" The list that was shown in the e-mail of Sat Jan 31st looks like the children of Adriaen and Annetie were mixed with the children of Pieter Adriaensen Van Woggleum. Was shown as (without *): (*is from my notes) !. Pieter Adriaenson b 1610 in Von Woggelum, Holland and died without probate. Son of Adriaen & Annetje. *1. Pieter Adriaensen b 1610 in Woggelum(von or van actually means from) or *1. Pieter, son of Pieter Adriaensen son of Adriaen & Annetje. 2. Jan Pieterse (Known as Jacob Adriense Von Utrecht & Jan Pieterse Van Utrecht) mar 10 Feb 1664 to Unknown. *2. Jacob Adriaensen, son of Adriaen & Annetie or *2. Jan Pieterse son of Pieter Adriaensen, m 10 Feb 1664 Stijntie JANS 3. Catharina? *3. Catharine is English for TRYNTJE, dau of Pieter who m Jan Mangelse. (If they had been Fresian, her name might have been Catrijn, Kaat, or Katrijn.) Annetie Pieters, widow of Adriaen is documented in early records and I have never seen anything refer to a daughter. That's not to say there was not a daughter, there very well could have been, but she would not have been known as Catharina at that time. The marriage date of 25 Aug 1661 for Volkie Janse Adriaensen to Jan Mangelse is interesting. Would like to know where it was found. I'm sure whoever first recorded it found it somewhere. Well Audrey, you asked for input. Don't know if I made any sense or not. Input from anyone else? Nancy