For those who are interested! If you are new to the ROLL list and did not follow what was discussed this past weekend, post a query to the list and one of us will explain. Also if your ROLL was not part of the Dutch line, please post your line and maybe your line might be one of our unidentified ROLL's. "CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE GENEALOGIES OF THE FIRST SETTLERS OF THE ANCIENT COUNTY OF ALBANY, FROM 1630 TO 1800" by Prof. Jonathan Pearson, Albany, NY 1872. p 116. "VAN BOECKHOVEN, Claas Janse, in 1672-7 in company with Ryck Claase Van Vranken, bought land over the river in Niskayuna. In 1662, he owned a lot on the Vossen Kil in Beverwyck. In 1683, his wife was VOLCKERTJE JANSE; about 1691, he m. Catalyntje De Vos dau. of Andries De Vos and widow of Arent Andriesse Bratt. He probably died about 1712, leaving no children; his property passed to the children of his last wife." It does NOT say he married Volckertje Janse in 1683, BUT that she was his wife at that time. IF Volckertje Janse had been married to Jan Mangelse, THEN SECOND to Claas Janse VAN BOECKHOVEN why didn't Claas Janse leave his property to her children also? Probably because she did NOT have any children at all. IF Volckertje Janse was the daughter of Pieter Adriaensen Van Woggelum, WHY is her surname always shown as JANSE indicating her father's name was JAN and not Pieter. What say you all? Nancy