Thought you might be interested in Kay's response. I forwarded her Bill's URL as well as his e-mail to me giving the WOODRUFF-ROLL lineage. Martha, I received your note also. Maybe there is something here of interest to some of you. I have ordered Hansel's manuscript also, besides all of the wonderful information that has come from all of you. Thanks so much everyone for sharing. Audrey ---------- > From: Kay Geist <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Roll genealogy > Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 6:32 PM > > Audrey, > > The Roll story is an interesting one. In the book the Woodruff > Chronicles, Volume II, compiled by Ceylon Newton Woodruff and Maurine R. > Herod, 1971, page 175: Abner married Catherine, daughter of Isaac Roll > who kept a tavern on the Springfield Road. Page 197, Abner Woodruff and > his brother Samuel were willed their father's plantation in Springfield > in John Woodruff's will of 1778, Abner about 18 years at the time. He > married abt. 1786 Catherine (Caty) Roll of springfield and their first > child, Isaac Woodruff was born July 3, 1787. Their first-born was named > after Catherine's father, Isaac Roll of Springfield. The family moved > to Redstone, Fayette Co., Penns. about 1798 and from there to Washington > County, Ohio. > > Same book, page 204 Roll-Woodruff Notes > It is quite possible that the account of the ancestry and origin of the > Roll Family in Littell's "First Settlers of Passaic Valley", page 349, > is open to question. The origin of the Immigrant may prove to have been > from the Dutch rather than German genesis. Undoubtedly Littell repeated > the traditional assumption of some family member that John Roll who > appeared at Springfield, N.J. was or had been called Johannis Mangle in > German, and that he came from Germany. The later extensive research of > a Roll Descendant, a member of the Holland Society of New York, appears > the more plausible. He relates that Jan Mangelse, Dutch Immigrant to > America as early as 1656 and probably was a trader with the Indian > trappers in skins or pelts. In Deeds I, 124, Dutch Manuscripts of > Beverwyck, Jan names his fatherin-law Pieter Adriaensen, in the Colonie > of Rensselaers wyck. The researcher says he possesses the bapitsmal > records of Jan. 27, 1686, of the Dutch Reformed Church of Albany. > Johannes, son of Jan Mangels, witnesses Geertruy and Johannes Lansing. > This Jan Mangels is believed to be a dirct ancestor of the John Roll, > wife Elizabeth who came from Long Hill, N. J., migrating to near the > present Springfield, N. J., where they kept a tavern. > > I have a copy of some pages from the book called Genealogies of the > First Settlers of Passaic Valley by John Littell. This documents the > Family of my John Roll, his son Isaac Roll and then #7 my Catherine or > Caty Roll that married Abner Woodruff. > > What do you think of this? Have you ever seen this information before? > > Regards, > Kay Geist