Nancy, Thanks for sending that Sale of Land again because I didn't get it the first time. This is the first Document that I have seen with Jan Mangelese's wife's name mentioned. It looks like my records are wrong. The other Sale of Land was probably misread. The Dutch Naming System looks like it might have worked with the first generation here but did not work after that according to my first 4 pages. It also worked when both parents were of the same Nationality. When they came to America, they integrated with other Nationalities and all traditions couldn't be kept. Also, in many other countries, the first born son inherited the land to keep it in the family. That was also a reason for the population of America, many came here with nothing and with the New Land and the New Life, they also wanted New Traditions. I worked on this map and deeds for the Indian Land this weekend. I hope someone can tell me what we've done wrong. We scanned it, printed it out and it looked good. However, when we sent it to me through the mail, it was Giant size. I mean you could have wallpapered a room with this map. I told them that I think we need to Zip it. Is that the problem or what do we do after we scan it? Audrey, thanks but Bill has sent the Church Seating. It was exactly like the one I remembered. I need to get all these things together so I know where they are. Joke, huh. Isn't it nice when other people do things and you don't have to? I'm afraid I've taken advantage of that more than I should have. Betty has been so wonderful to send these things out, all I have to do is say Betty, would you mind, and she does it. I really need to check out the records and fill in whatever, she doesn't have. That would probably be much easier that filling in the N.J. from what Hansel has. The records at Westfield, N.J. Library, were probably donated by: Albert Thomas Roll (Mary Cecelia Stanton) 462 Madison Avenue, Rahway, New Jersey - 07065. Al & Mae wrote for years and sent me a map of Springfield, New Jersey during the Revolution. He never said that he was going to do this but I believe that he did. Does anyone have the name of the person who donated those pages? Of course, it might have been his brother, George Wesley Roll ( Mona Kuehner), 316 Chestnut Avenue West, Metuchen, New Jersey, 08840. But I believe it was Al and Mae. But then, I may have the wrong family altogether. There were many others in N.J. who got a complete set of the genealogy. Martha