The names you mentioned John Roll & Mary Nevis, Michael Roll & Christina Vought, John Roll & Susannah Swank, William B. Roll & Matilda Roden, all these names are the Penn. Family and aren't in the files I sent to you. These all tie into one family but I kept them seperate for my own benefit. The Penn. Family is branched off the first son of Jan Mangelese, Mangel Jansen Roll. The N.J. Family is branched off the 2nd son of Jan Mangelese, Johannes Pieter Roll. To me, it would have been confusing if I hadn't kept them seperated and that's why I did it that way. If you have a genealogy program for your computer, Betty has the Penn. Family in her computer. I have it too but I'm not good at sending Gedcom Files. I am updating this and hope to have it done in a couple of weeks. Martha