David are you, Vince and Frank related? When Vince posted to the list, I did not have Francis Sherman Roll in my data base. It has only been since Hansel replied to Vinces' message last April. Anyway, I'd be happy to send a Gedcom of my files on this line to any or all of you. Just let me know. It would come as a file attachment. If your genealogy software cannot take a Gedcom, I can send a file attachment in text or rich text. We cannot send file attachments through Rootsweb. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net