Hello Dave, I am a descendant of John Roll Sr of western Pa. John was b. 1734 ? m. to Mary Nevis. His son John Jr. b 1754 ? m. to Mary Framton. The earliest records I have of this family comes from Mifflin Co. Pa 1790 census and some Rev. War Records from Cumberland Co Pa. The two Johns and their families relocated to western Pa around 1801. I have been told that John Roll Sr was a descendant of the Mangel family of NY State. I have read the results of several Roll family studies. They all claim the same connection with the Mangel family of NY. Do you have, or know of any one that has records of the Roll family move from NY to NJ, PA, and MD states? I do know of a John Roll arriving in NJ from Ger. and was a Rev. War Vet. according to DAR records. Not my Family. Thank you Dave for taking the time to read this message. I would be most grateful for any information you might have. Sincerely, Richard M. Roll RSDSC1@AOL.COM