My interest is Lydia. from the ROLL archives, an old message from Martha she said I have a marriage record for Lydia Roll to Jacob Timbrell in 1813, Butler Co., Ohio. Is this the Lydia, 3rd wife of John Roll who married (1) Rachel Van Winkle (2) Edith Wick (3) Lydia. I suggest YES and will work toward proving or disproving the supposition. All comments welcome. I suggest Lydia’s maiden name was GOBLE, their marriage in Ohio between 1797 and 1804, and I further suggest that John ROLL’s son Matthias may have spent some time in western PA which is not yet reflected in the family sheets found in the archives. 9 Dec. 1794 Oaths of Allegience in Washington Co PA - Sworn before Ebn. GOBLE, of Morris Township Mathias ROLL Please correct me if these are not the Rolls and Gobles who moved to Butler Co OH. My guess is made on the suggestion that Gobles and Rolls are associated again in the decade: OH Butler Common Pleas Vol 1 pp62-63 Third Tuesday of May 1804 before Hon Francis Dunlavy Esq. John Roll and Lydia Roll his wife vs Henry Shafer (she lately Lydia Goble). In 1797 in the town of Hamilton Henry Shafer entered into a promisory note with “Liddy Goble” in the amount of fiftyfour dollars to be paid with interest within six months, she then being femme sole and unmarried. Henry has repeatedly refused to make payment and therefore John and Lydia claim for a suit of one hundred dollars. Henry Shafer was represented by Daniel Symmes but the court found for the plaintiffs and awarded eightynine dollars and fiftysix cents for damages and court costs. The connection I want to TIMBRELLs is weaker, but may track back from Butler Co OH western PA into NJ as I think Matthias Roll does: Jacob Timbrel. Born poss 1771 in Elizabeth, Union Co NJ. m Sarah Stebbens 1790 Moristown, Morris Co NJ 1791 PENNSYLVANIA ARCHIVES THIRD SERIES VOL. XXII Page 656 from Marilyn Ramsay Alleghany Co PA 1791 Return of taxes St. Clair Twp. Jacob Timbral Taxes 3 Hamilton County OH Probates 7 Nov 1797 Samuel Pounds deceased, Jacob Timbrel produced a proven account Is anyone on the ROLL list familiar with Stebbens? Pounds? Gobles? Timbrells? Did Lydia Goble Roll marry Jacob Timbrell Sr. or Jacob Timbrell Jr. in 1813? Naomi Emmich

Hi Naomi: This is not my line, but there are quite a few of us on the list that are interested in all Roll lines. Please post what you have on Lydia. Right now I can't think if anyone on the list is from this John Roll's line. If there is anything you would like one of us to post, please let us know. We do have most of the ancestor's of Johns. regards, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net