Dear Nancy, Thank you for posting the descendants of John Mangels and Elizabeth Roll. I'm sure that I don't have some of this in my database, and printed it all out on my new printer for careful checking Looks like I'll also be geting a new computer. A component in my top-of-the-line monitor or video card has failed, and I can barely read the screen. And a Happy New Year to all! -- Sincerely, William Henry Roll 12643 Hickory Road Blythe, CA 92225-2007, USA Telephone: 760.922.7181 Email address <william.roll@gte.net> The Roll Family Genealogy Windmill <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/> The Sonora Genealogy Windmill <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/sonora/> The Chihuahua Genealogy Windmill <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/chihuahu/>