Hi, I'm new to the list and genealogy. My ggrandfather, Swanston Theodore DAVIS b. 2/l7/l848 in Jackson co., MS married Sophronia Beaulah ROLLS b. 9/l3/l848 Mobile co., AL. Her sister, Emma ROLLS b. ca l854 mar. Don Durant DAVIS (brother to Swanston). Sophronia's father was William Hallett ROLLS b. 8/24/l824 Mobile, AL. and mar. Sarah TURNER. William Hallett's father was Jacob ROLLS and mother was Elizabeth L. ? born l2/l8/l795 NC. Jacob's family and origin elusive. As early as l830 census, Elizabeth was head of household. William inherited land from his mother, and purchased hundreds of other acres in the Grand Bay, Mobile co., AL area. He had slaves on his plantation, tutors for his children, and a seamstress came in to make the clothes for the family. Some of the original house was still standing along with the rebuilt portion from an earlier fire, in l978. The entrance drive is planted with live oak trees. William died 7/l3/l898 in Bayou La Batre, Mobile co., AL and Sarah died ll/2l/l904 in Mobile, Mobile co., AL. Both are buried in the family lot in the Grand Bay Cemetery. William and Sarah had nine children from l848 thru l869. I believe William Hallett may have had a brother, James A. ROLLS. Does anyone know this family? regards, jan davis-shannon

Don't have any info on Mary's parents but this is what I have on their family. Have more descendants if you want them. Jan Husband: William ROLL - ------------------------------------------------ Birth: Circa 1786 Place: near Springfield, Essex Co., NJ Death: 11 Aug 1844 Place: Sangamon Co, IL Father: John ROLL (1765-1810) Mother: Mary EARL (1768-1852) - ------------------------------------------------ Marriage: 9 Feb 1809 Place: Green Village, Morris Co., NJ - ------------------------------------------------ Wife: Mary EDDY - ------------------------------------------------ Birth: 18 Feb 1793 - ------------------------------------------------ Children... - ------------------------------------------------ 1. F Child: Ann Pierson ROLL Birth: 11 Aug 1810 Place: Springfield, Essex Co., NJ Spouse: Alfred RILEY Marriage: Circa 1832 Place: Springfield, Sangamon Co., IL - ------------------------------------------------ 2. F Child: Phebe Lindsly ROLL Birth: 1 Mar 1812 Place: Springfield, Essex Co., NJ Spouse: Thomas S. EDWARDS - ------------------------------------------------ 3. M Child: John Eddy ROLL Birth: 9 Jun 1814 Place: Madison Co., NJ Death: 30 Mar 1901 Place: Springfield, IL Burial: Place: Oak Ridge Cem., Springfield, IL Spouse: Harriet VANDYKE Marriage: 31 Jan 1839 Place: Sangamon Co., NJ - ------------------------------------------------ 4. F Child: Mary Caroline ROLL Birth: 29 Nov 1816 Place: Morris Co., NJ Spouse: John D BAGBY Marriage: 2 May 1840 Place: Sangamon Co, IL - ------------------------------------------------ 5. F Child: Elizabeth Ward ROLL Birth: 22 Apr 1819 Place: Morris Co., NJ Death: Place: Springfield, IL Spouse: Isaac H. SMITH Marriage: 25 Apr 1838 Place: Sangamon Co., IL - ------------------------------------------------ 6. M Child: William ROLL (Twin) Birth: 19 Aug 1822 Place: Morris Co., NJ Death: 24 Aug 1839 Place: (Union Army) - ------------------------------------------------ 7. F Child: Sarah Crowell ROLL (Twin) Birth: 19 Aug 1822 Place: Morris Co., NJ Death: Jan 1901 Spouse: William P. SHORT Marriage: 11 Oct 1838 Place: Sangamon Co., IL - ------------------------------------------------ 8. M Child: James ROLL Birth: Circa 1823 Death: SeeNotes - ------------------------------------------------ 9. F Child: Nancy E. ROLL Birth: 13 Mar 1828 Place: Morris Co., NJ Spouse: Jeremiah RIGGINS Marriage: Place: Sangamon Co., IL - ------------------------------------------------ 10. M Child: Alpheus Pierson ROLL Birth: 17 Sep 1830 Place: Sangamon Co., IL Death: 23 Feb 1908 Spouse: Mary MOSALAUDER Marriage: Circa 1849 Place: Mason City, IL

Below is what I have on this family. Don't have Hetty's last name. Does anyone know what it is? Jan Husband: James W. ROLL - ------------------------------------------------ Birth: 6 Oct 1816 Place: NJ Death: 6 Sep 1875 Father: James ROLL (1787-1871) Mother: Catherine (Caty) DUNHAM (1792-1865) - ------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------ Wife: Mrs. Hetty Maria ROLL - ------------------------------------------------ Birth: 6 Feb 1820 Death: 8 Apr 1893 - ------------------------------------------------ Children... - ------------------------------------------------ 1. M Child: Jospeh Martin ROLL Birth: 29 Aug 1843 Place: NJ Death: 11 Aug 1916 - ------------------------------------------------ 2. F Child: Mary Ellen ROLL Birth: 6 Oct 1845 Place: NJ Death: 20 Sep 1848 - ------------------------------------------------ 3. F Child: Jane Delsena ROLL Birth: 25 Jan 1847 Place: NJ - ------------------------------------------------ 4. F Child: Mary Emily ROLL Birth: 13 Feb 1849 Place: NJ - ------------------------------------------------ 5. F Child: Josephine Amanda ROLL Birth: 20 Oct 1850 Place: NJ - ------------------------------------------------ 6. M Child: Charles Henry ROLL Birth: 4 Jan 1853 Place: NJ Last Modified: 20 Oct 1996

Hi all, does anyone on the list share William Roll 1786 NJ - 1844 IL m. Mary Eddy b. 1793, dau of John Eddy and Mary Ward???? Faith Keahey@cyberhighway.net

I was checking all the James Roll's in my data base and found I had two with notes as possibly being married to Hetty Maria, she was born 6 Feb 1820 and died 8 Apr 1893. Their children were: Joseph Martin, Jane Delsena and Mary Emily. Can someone help me and tell me who the parents were of the James Roll who married a Hetty Maria? Thanks, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Tom Roll on our list just returned from visiting his ROLL relatives in Dettwiller & Strasbourg, Bas Rhin, Alsace. Maybe when he gets caught up after being gone for so long he will post his experience to the list. Also hope he will be able to help some of the French researchers on the list. Please do post ALL answers to Roll queries back to the list as most of us are interested in all the lines. Thank you, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Dear Researchers, I have a new email address: <william.roll@gte.net>. Unfortunately, it will take a month or more to change the old email addresses on my Web sites and GenConnect boards again. I can't receive forwarded mail from the old addresses. Both of my former internet service provider recently faded away, the last without warning. I have not been able to receive email for a couple of weeks, while searching for another internet connection. Sadly, all the email from that time has been lost. There were most likely some good leads in the lost mail. GTE is an international telephone corporation, and will probably be more permanent. The internet connection from the remote desert town where I live has been tenuous at best. Thank you for your patience.

Dear Researchers: There is some information about the Roll families from Switzerland, Germany, and France at my Web site at <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/html/europe.html>. The material is a translation of a French Web page. The town of Rolle, I think on Lake Geneva, is in Switzerland, very near Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France. I feel that the name of this town may be the source of many of the Roll surnames, possibly even my own. Please note my new email address: <william.roll@gte.net>. William Henry Roll <william.roll@gte.net>

Eric, Thank you. I was not aware of that information. I am quite new to researching the Rolle name. At least now I feel more confident in the spelling of the name as being Rolle rather then Roll for this ancestor. Being that I was informed that she was without a doubt of French Origin. Edenkoben, the town her family moved to and where I am told she was born, was very much in the Alsac-Lorraine region between France and Germany. Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin

In a message dated 99-10-31 08:01:14 EST, you write: << Her maiden name was Julianne Christina Roll or Rolle we don't know the exact spelling. But are thinking is that the very name Roll or Rolle is French obviously due to her parents having been French. Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin acheslin@msn.com >> You may already know this but I'll send it along anyway: MICHEL ROLLE was a famous French mathematician who lived from 1652 to 1719 in and around Paris. An important theorem of his was posthumously named after him by others of his profession. Any mathematician will recognize Rolle's theorem by name (hopefully by content too). The name ROLLE is distinctly French. Hope this helps, Eric Roll

Hi, What more, if anything, can you tell me about Mangle in Holland? Do you know of a precursor to that surname? Does MANEL, or MANNEL, or BENEL show up anywhere in the chain of precursors leading to ROLL in Holland? Thanks for any help, Eric Roll bjolla@aol.com

Hi Just got you notice from the list on Roll. I have a question or two. Do you have any ideas as to the nationality origin of your Roll family? I ask this because I have an ancestor whom came to America from Nuremberg Germany in the 1870's. She was originally from the tiny town of Edenkoben (name no longer existing) Germany but was of French parents. Her maiden name was Julianne Christina Roll or Rolle we don't know the exact spelling. But are thinking is that the very name Roll or Rolle is French obviously due to her parents having been French. Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin acheslin@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeoKaMitch@aol.com> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:08 AM Subject: [ROLL] James or John Rall b~1770 > Hi all, > Thanks everyone who wrote back in response to my first Rall/Roll Query on > the mailing list. I got the general picture about the Ralls/Rolls, Mangel, > and all, and some hints for my Phebe Rall b 1800 in Rockland Co, NY. It > would seem maybe her father is either James or John Rall/ Roll who were both > in Rockland Co, NY at about Phebe's birth time, and that maybe they are > brothers and both sons of another earlier John Rall, but there is nothing > defintite connecting Phebe to the family. > Does anyone have any further specifics on my line?? Thanks once again. > Georgie Mitchell > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send to ROLL-L-request@rootsweb.com (normal List) or ROLL-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest list), put unsubscribe in subject and body of message nothing else. Turn off signature lines. > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hi, I am not sure about the nationality of my Phebe Rall and possible father James or John Rall and their father John Rall, but they probably connect to Mangle Rall Roll Ral Raal who was from the Netherlands. It seems thats the way everything is pointing at this time. Georgie Mitchell

Hi all, Thanks everyone who wrote back in response to my first Rall/Roll Query on the mailing list. I got the general picture about the Ralls/Rolls, Mangel, and all, and some hints for my Phebe Rall b 1800 in Rockland Co, NY. It would seem maybe her father is either James or John Rall/ Roll who were both in Rockland Co, NY at about Phebe's birth time, and that maybe they are brothers and both sons of another earlier John Rall, but there is nothing defintite connecting Phebe to the family. Does anyone have any further specifics on my line?? Thanks once again. Georgie Mitchell

Subject: National Veteran's Wall >I just received word today that all Wal-Mart's nation wide are sponsoring a >National Veteran's Wall to be built in Washington D C. To promote this wall >they are offering a free 5x7 copy of your veteran's pictures. They will make >2 copies of the photograph, give you one and keep the other to display in an >in-store collage. After that, Wal-Mart will send their photographs to >Washington D C where it will be placed on a star on the National Veteran's >wall. >The picture must be a veteran IN UNIFORM and you will need to supply the >following information: >Name of Veteran >Rank >Branch of Service >Dates of Service >Unit >This information will be included on the star that contains the photograph. I >think this is a great idea and hope that all of you veteran's out there will >take advantage of this offer and take your place of honor on this wall. Also, >they are including pictures of Civil War veterans so start digging in those >closets and boxes for your family veteran's. >Please don't send me questions but check with your local Wal-Mart if you need >more details. I did call my local Wal-Mart to verify this promotion amd >received confirmation. I asked if this was being done nation wide and they >said as long as they have a photo-lab at the store this offer is vaild. The >deadline is Nov 11 so don't wait too long. > >The above e-mail was sent to me about a National Veteran's Wall. If you are >interested, check it out at a Wal-Mart in your area. Jan

Hi Georgianna, Welcome to the Roll/Rall, all spellings surname list. My Rall family started out as Roll, but the change of spelling took place in Ohio. Do you have any of the names of the towns your Phebe Rall lived in? Several of us on the list descend from Jan Mangel who was born abt 1635, the earliest mention of him (that I have) was in 1661 when he acknowledged in court he owed his father-in-law. We believe he married in 1660 Albany,NY. He owned land in Schenectady. His children changed their name to the English ROLL. Most of them ended up around Staten Island, then some went to New Jersey, then further west. There is another on the list whose RALL family lived in western NY state, maybe she can help. It may take awhile as she had twin boys less than six months ago. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Hi All, Looking for information on parents, sibs of Phoebe (Phebe) Rall b 1800 in Rockland Co, NY. Married Isaac Odell also from Rockland Co and moved to Bergen, NJ in 1820's; then Monroe Co, NY in 1830's and 40's; then Orleans Co, Ny 1850's and 60's, then Clinton Co, MI 1870 where Isaac died; and then to Gratiot Co, MI, Fulton Co in 1880's and then on to some unk place where she died in 1892. She is buried in Clinton Co, MI, Eagle Twp. Known children were Hannah Odell b Nov 3 1818 in NY m Isaac Brown d Clinton Co, MI 1897 Emmalinda Odell b Mar 14, 1837 in NJ m Levi Lincoln Smith Phoebe Jane Odell Nov 26, 1837 in Monroe Co NY m(1) Ora B Mitchell; m(2) Andrew J Dyer Seymour or Seaman Odell b 1838 Monroe Co, NY Mary Odell b 1844 Monroe Co, NY Any information on Phebe Rall greatly appreciated. Georgianna Mitchell geokamitch@aol.com

Hi Martha thanks for the thanks but it should be me thanking you for your help in finding my history. what relation are you to either Dad Roland Margaret or Martha. I would like , if you have it, some history of Grandads sons & daughters. I have never had any idea of going to USA but the rest of the family have been there at some time and have met the US side. Molly, I think is a cousin, and she visited Betty last year or early this year. -----Original Message----- From: Martha Roll <therolls@usa.com> To: ROLL-L@rootsweb.com <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, 15 October 1999 15:29 Subject: [ROLL] Australian Family >It is nice to have the family information on Francis Sherman Roll/Elizabeth >Agnes Drain. >This is the brother to the man that did a lot of research on the Roll Family >in the mid 1900's. It was a hard time to do genealogy. Roland Henry John >Roll (Roland H. Roll) and Isaac Clifford Roll (I. Clifford Roll) worked on >the genealogy for years and their work was a big help when Lynn, Janis and I >started our work in the late 70's. I have admired these men for many years. >They were pioneers in Genealogy Research and made it a lot easier for some >of the rest of us. It is good to know that some of the family will continue >with the work. >Janis and I have continued information on Roland H. Roll's line if you would >like to compare notes. I would rather not send it through the list since >some of these people are living. That would be up to them to publish on the >list but I will send it to who ever would like it through private e-mail or >Janis will if I have gone back to Illinois. >Martha > >__________________________________________________ >FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com > > >==== ROLL Mailing List ==== >Carman-Cross-ROLL-Schumacher-Wahl Genealogy >http://www.gendex.com/users/hwahl > >============================== >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

The name of Polly Stanbury is so familiar, but I can't find her in my computer. She married John Roll 2 Jan 1792 at the Westfield Presbyterian Church in New Jersey. Who were the parents of this John Roll? Thank you, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Cont. from Page 183. 185. GILBERT MUNDY, 2nd child of SAMUEL VANCE ROLL, Jr. & MARY ANN MUNDY. GILBERT MUNDY ROLL M. 08/10/1887 MARY ANN THERESA BRESLIN b. May 1867 b. 02/25/1865 d. 04/17/1912 d. 04/13/1912 THEIR CHILDREN P. 186 1. ROLAND HENRY JOHN b. 05/25/1888 d. 01/09/1959 Married: Helen May Robinette M. 10/14/1926 2. FRANCIS SHERMAN b. 06/19/1891 Married: Elizabeth Agnes Drain M. 1925 3. MARY AGNES b. 12/18/1895 Married: Vincent Coe Garner M. 08/19/1922 4. MARGARET ELIZABETH b. 02/12/1903 Married: George Russell McHale M. 10/26/1935 GILBERT (Bert) MUNDY ROLL was born in Glendale, Ohio and died in Norwood, Hamilton Co., Ohio. He is buried at Spring Grove Cemetery. __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com