-----Original Message----- From: Jan Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> To: ROLL-L@rootsweb.com <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 13 November 1999 15:45 Subject: [ROLL] Alsace Loraine, France >David & Tom: >Going through some old unconnected Roll files and came across some I thought >might be of interest. Some of these listed as Alsace Loraine, Germany or >France ((below marked with *) The following is all I have except ** where I >have addresses sent with family information. Still have some more files to >go thru but thought I would send this info out to you. Hope it fills in >some blanks. >Jan > >John Roll m. Theresa Yaw ? Child: Modest J b 1870 * who m. Seline Blind b. >1875 *. Their ch: Herman, **Joseph, twins Arthur & Ernest, John, Helen, >Gertrude, Sophie & Elsie >------------------------------ >Eugene Roll b. * m. Anna Wagner b. 1870 in Stellin, Germany d. 1942 in >Imlay, MI. ch: Eugene Ernest b. 1904, Mt. Cleureus, MI d. 1965 m. Bernice >Munn ca 1930. Ch: 1) Patricia Ann m. James Hinson, Res: Clawson, MI; 2) >Donald Eugene, married with 6 children; 3) **Thomas James m. 1960 with ch: >Kevin Thomas and Melissa Dawn who both live in Troy, MI. [Anna Wagner had >prior m. to Mr. Schultz=ch: Arthur and Walter] >--------------------------------- >Michael Roll b. 1832 in Erstein, Alsace Lorraine, [Germany] -first wife's >name unknown. 2nd marriage to Hedwig Zimmerman b. Bavaria,Germany (8 >children) only 3 listed- >1) Michael Henry b. 9-20-1880 at Mankato, MN, d. 12-23-1969 at Spokane, WA >and married on 12-27- 1919, Edna Eunice Robinson b. 10-9-1896 in >Livingston, WY 1 ch: > a)**Marjorie Hazel b. 3-4-1921, m. 10-17-1956 to Jay Carl >McDowell-b. 7-16-1913-2 ch: > 1) Marilyn Joyce b. 8-9-1957; 2) Susan Kathleen b. 2-9-1957 >2) Albert married and had **Robert who married _____ Petri >3) Frances(female) who m. _______ Hillisheim and had dau. Gertrude M. who m. >_____Unser (res: Mr. Angel, OR, who had son **Richard H Unger. >------------------------------------ >Ignatious Roll b. 9-22-1781, d. 1-12-1864 & m. Magdaline Fischer b. 2-1794, >d. 2-16-1859. Their son Frank A b. 2-4-1825, Dittwiller, Bas. Rhine Fr. d. >10-10-1899 in Zanesville, OH, m. 11-24-1850 to Magdaline Stehle b. 4-6-1826 >in Sindelfinger, Bas. Rhine Fr. & d. 1-4-1902 in Zanesville, OH. Their son >Theodore b. 1-5-1866 Zanesville, OH d. 12-21921 same place. m. Louisa Ringer >b. 3-19-1870 d. 12-13-1942 both Zanesville, OH.(her parents: Charles A & >Barbara [Schramm] Ringer.) m. 5-1-1893 and had son Bernard Oscar b. >1-16-1896 in Zanesville, OH d. 5-21-1965 in Tucson, AZ m. 11-7-1918 to Laura >G. Romick b. 12-17-1899 in Canton, OH, d. 2-2-1967 in Phoenix, AZ (Laura's >parents: Howard A & Katherine [Langley] Romick). They had son **James >Lawrence b. 5-21-1931 who m. Bernice E. Jones. >Jan in WA >hollandj@uonline.net > > >==== ROLL Mailing List ==== >The Roll Family Genealogy Windmill >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Jan...thanks for the Roll information. I'm a descendant of the Ignatius Roll line...from Dettwiller. He immigrated to Zanesville, Ohio, in 1832. Tom Roll ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 11:51 PM Subject: [ROLL] Alsace Loraine, France > David & Tom: > Going through some old unconnected Roll files and came across some I thought > might be of interest. Some of these listed as Alsace Loraine, Germany or > France ((below marked with *) The following is all I have except ** where I > have addresses sent with family information. Still have some more files to > go thru but thought I would send this info out to you. Hope it fills in > some blanks. > Jan > > John Roll m. Theresa Yaw ? Child: Modest J b 1870 * who m. Seline Blind b. > 1875 *. Their ch: Herman, **Joseph, twins Arthur & Ernest, John, Helen, > Gertrude, Sophie & Elsie > ------------------------------ > Eugene Roll b. * m. Anna Wagner b. 1870 in Stellin, Germany d. 1942 in > Imlay, MI. ch: Eugene Ernest b. 1904, Mt. Cleureus, MI d. 1965 m. Bernice > Munn ca 1930. Ch: 1) Patricia Ann m. James Hinson, Res: Clawson, MI; 2) > Donald Eugene, married with 6 children; 3) **Thomas James m. 1960 with ch: > Kevin Thomas and Melissa Dawn who both live in Troy, MI. [Anna Wagner had > prior m. to Mr. Schultz=ch: Arthur and Walter] > --------------------------------- > Michael Roll b. 1832 in Erstein, Alsace Lorraine, [Germany] -first wife's > name unknown. 2nd marriage to Hedwig Zimmerman b. Bavaria,Germany (8 > children) only 3 listed- > 1) Michael Henry b. 9-20-1880 at Mankato, MN, d. 12-23-1969 at Spokane, WA > and married on 12-27- 1919, Edna Eunice Robinson b. 10-9-1896 in > Livingston, WY 1 ch: > a)**Marjorie Hazel b. 3-4-1921, m. 10-17-1956 to Jay Carl > McDowell-b. 7-16-1913-2 ch: > 1) Marilyn Joyce b. 8-9-1957; 2) Susan Kathleen b. 2-9-1957 > 2) Albert married and had **Robert who married _____ Petri > 3) Frances(female) who m. _______ Hillisheim and had dau. Gertrude M. who m. > _____Unser (res: Mr. Angel, OR, who had son **Richard H Unger. > ------------------------------------ > Ignatious Roll b. 9-22-1781, d. 1-12-1864 & m. Magdaline Fischer b. 2-1794, > d. 2-16-1859. Their son Frank A b. 2-4-1825, Dittwiller, Bas. Rhine Fr. d. > 10-10-1899 in Zanesville, OH, m. 11-24-1850 to Magdaline Stehle b. 4-6-1826 > in Sindelfinger, Bas. Rhine Fr. & d. 1-4-1902 in Zanesville, OH. Their son > Theodore b. 1-5-1866 Zanesville, OH d. 12-21921 same place. m. Louisa Ringer > b. 3-19-1870 d. 12-13-1942 both Zanesville, OH.(her parents: Charles A & > Barbara [Schramm] Ringer.) m. 5-1-1893 and had son Bernard Oscar b. > 1-16-1896 in Zanesville, OH d. 5-21-1965 in Tucson, AZ m. 11-7-1918 to Laura > G. Romick b. 12-17-1899 in Canton, OH, d. 2-2-1967 in Phoenix, AZ (Laura's > parents: Howard A & Katherine [Langley] Romick). They had son **James > Lawrence b. 5-21-1931 who m. Bernice E. Jones. > Jan in WA > hollandj@uonline.net > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > The Roll Family Genealogy Windmill > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hello all! I am new to the list and haven't yet posted my ROLL names, but I'm interested in seeing David Petrie's (from MN) line of decendants. David, if there is an easy way for you to share your ROLL names with me, I'd very much appreciate it. I will post my names to the list as soon as I get some extra time. Sincerely, Sara

Can't remember if I sent a reply to this one yet. So If I have, just bare in mind I'm taking muscle relaxers for a back problem and my memory today is clouded. Anyway, Eric, Thank you for all the information you supplied about the Rolls. I find all of this fascinating. So far you have been the only one to reply specifically to this subject. Thanks. I am saving your posting for future reference and will pass a copy of it on to the cousin digging around in Alsace-Lorraine. Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin Columbus, Ohio acheslin@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bjolla@aol.com> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [ROLL] Alsace Loraine, France > In a message dated 99-11-13 10:29:33 EST, you write: > > << Has anyone come across any Roll/Rolle family from the Alsace-Lorraine > region > who were say French and JEWISH. > > I just had a second cousin call me this week and inform me that he got > documents that show our Roll/Rolle Julianne Christina Roll/Rolle Schreiner > was French Jew. > > This was news to everyone in the family. It was something we NEVER knew. > > Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin > Columbus, Ohio > acheslin@msn.com >> > > > Hello Andrea, > > I have been told, by members of my father's Jewish family (ROLL) that their > surname comes from the name Mannel or Mangle; that the family originated in > Spain; that they emigrated (1492) to Holland and, later, to Germany, France, > and eastern Europe; that various members of the family took on other (ie. > Christian) faiths due to intermarriage or societal pressures; that many ROLLs > are, in fact, descended from this Spanish/Dutch, Jewish family. > > I was in touch with another ROLL some months ago. Sorry I don't remember the > woman's name, but she did speak of her family in Alsace-Lorraine. When I > asked her about a possible Jewish component, indicating that my own > background contained such, she quickly revealed that she had long suspected > that certain of her ancestors were, in fact, Jewish, though she was > Christian. > > Probably, by the time you read this, you will have received other e-mail with > a lot more specific information than I have supplied. There are probably > many on this list who would like to share that information with you. > > Good luck, > Eric Roll > bjolla@aol.com > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > Lucinda KIDD (1834-1902) married Jonathan Smith ROLL (1828-1904) > http://members.aol.com/RLCww/kidd-so1.htm > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Jan Holland, Thank you for the Roll information. The Michael Roll you list is definitely my great grandfather. Can you tell me anything of the source of this information or how to contact anyone who is related to Michael who may have supplied it? Whoever posted the information confused my mother's marriage to Chester Petrie with her brother Robert Roll who died in World War II and was never married. They also dropped the "e" off of Petrie. That and other date discrepancies below make me think they must have been distantly related or out of touch with the family for some time. I am currently in contact with both Marjorie (Roll) McDowell and Richard Unger who you list as descendants of Mike Roll and Frances (Roll) Hillisheim respectively. My grandfather of course was Albert Wendell Roll who named my mother Dorothy Frances after his older sister Frances. Can you see a relationship between any of the other Roll files that you have and Michael Roll? If anyone is interested in this line of Rolls, I have excellent portraits scanned of Michael and his wife Hedwig. With the help of Marjorie and Richard we have put together information on nearly 200 descendants of Michael and Hedwig in the states of Minnesota, Washington and Oregon, USA. Michael started as a blacksmith in the small town of Mankato, Minnesota and died a respected town alderman. David Petrie Arden Hills, Minnesota dapwyn@aol.com ======================================================= Michael Roll b. 1832 in Erstein, Alsace Lorraine, [Germany] -first wife's name unknown. 2nd marriage to Hedwig Zimmerman b. Bavaria,Germany (8 children) only 3 listed- 1) Michael Henry b. 9-20-1880 at Mankato, MN, d. 12-23-1969 at Spokane, WA and married on 12-27- 1919, Edna Eunice Robinson b. 10-9-1896 in Livingston, WY 1 ch: a)**Marjorie Hazel b. 3-4-1921, m. 10-17-1956 to Jay Carl McDowell-b. 7-16-1913-2 ch: 1) Marilyn Joyce b. 8-9-1957; 2) Susan Kathleen b. 2-9-1957 2) Albert married and had **Robert who married _____ Petri 3) Frances(female) who m. _______ Hillisheim and had dau. Gertrude M. who m. _____Unser (res: Mr. Angel, OR, who had son **Richard H Unger. - ----------------------------------

In a message dated 99-11-13 10:29:33 EST, you write: << Has anyone come across any Roll/Rolle family from the Alsace-Lorraine region who were say French and JEWISH. I just had a second cousin call me this week and inform me that he got documents that show our Roll/Rolle Julianne Christina Roll/Rolle Schreiner was French Jew. This was news to everyone in the family. It was something we NEVER knew. Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin Columbus, Ohio acheslin@msn.com >> Hello Andrea, I have been told, by members of my father's Jewish family (ROLL) that their surname comes from the name Mannel or Mangle; that the family originated in Spain; that they emigrated (1492) to Holland and, later, to Germany, France, and eastern Europe; that various members of the family took on other (ie. Christian) faiths due to intermarriage or societal pressures; that many ROLLs are, in fact, descended from this Spanish/Dutch, Jewish family. I was in touch with another ROLL some months ago. Sorry I don't remember the woman's name, but she did speak of her family in Alsace-Lorraine. When I asked her about a possible Jewish component, indicating that my own background contained such, she quickly revealed that she had long suspected that certain of her ancestors were, in fact, Jewish, though she was Christian. Probably, by the time you read this, you will have received other e-mail with a lot more specific information than I have supplied. There are probably many on this list who would like to share that information with you. Good luck, Eric Roll bjolla@aol.com

Has anyone come across any Roll/Rolle family from the Alsace-Lorraine region who were say French and JEWISH. I just had a second cousin call me this week and inform me that he got documents that show our Roll/Rolle Julianne Christina Roll/Rolle Schreiner was French Jew. This was news to everyone in the family. It was something we NEVER knew. Andrea (Schreiner) Heslin Columbus, Ohio acheslin@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 11:51 PM Subject: [ROLL] Alsace Loraine, France > David & Tom: > Going through some old unconnected Roll files and came across some I thought > might be of interest. Some of these listed as Alsace Loraine, Germany or > France ((below marked with *) The following is all I have except ** where I > have addresses sent with family information. Still have some more files to > go thru but thought I would send this info out to you. Hope it fills in > some blanks. > Jan > > John Roll m. Theresa Yaw ? Child: Modest J b 1870 * who m. Seline Blind b. > 1875 *. Their ch: Herman, **Joseph, twins Arthur & Ernest, John, Helen, > Gertrude, Sophie & Elsie > ------------------------------ > Eugene Roll b. * m. Anna Wagner b. 1870 in Stellin, Germany d. 1942 in > Imlay, MI. ch: Eugene Ernest b. 1904, Mt. Cleureus, MI d. 1965 m. Bernice > Munn ca 1930. Ch: 1) Patricia Ann m. James Hinson, Res: Clawson, MI; 2) > Donald Eugene, married with 6 children; 3) **Thomas James m. 1960 with ch: > Kevin Thomas and Melissa Dawn who both live in Troy, MI. [Anna Wagner had > prior m. to Mr. Schultz=ch: Arthur and Walter] > --------------------------------- > Michael Roll b. 1832 in Erstein, Alsace Lorraine, [Germany] -first wife's > name unknown. 2nd marriage to Hedwig Zimmerman b. Bavaria,Germany (8 > children) only 3 listed- > 1) Michael Henry b. 9-20-1880 at Mankato, MN, d. 12-23-1969 at Spokane, WA > and married on 12-27- 1919, Edna Eunice Robinson b. 10-9-1896 in > Livingston, WY 1 ch: > a)**Marjorie Hazel b. 3-4-1921, m. 10-17-1956 to Jay Carl > McDowell-b. 7-16-1913-2 ch: > 1) Marilyn Joyce b. 8-9-1957; 2) Susan Kathleen b. 2-9-1957 > 2) Albert married and had **Robert who married _____ Petri > 3) Frances(female) who m. _______ Hillisheim and had dau. Gertrude M. who m. > _____Unser (res: Mr. Angel, OR, who had son **Richard H Unger. > ------------------------------------ > Ignatious Roll b. 9-22-1781, d. 1-12-1864 & m. Magdaline Fischer b. 2-1794, > d. 2-16-1859. Their son Frank A b. 2-4-1825, Dittwiller, Bas. Rhine Fr. d. > 10-10-1899 in Zanesville, OH, m. 11-24-1850 to Magdaline Stehle b. 4-6-1826 > in Sindelfinger, Bas. Rhine Fr. & d. 1-4-1902 in Zanesville, OH. Their son > Theodore b. 1-5-1866 Zanesville, OH d. 12-21921 same place. m. Louisa Ringer > b. 3-19-1870 d. 12-13-1942 both Zanesville, OH.(her parents: Charles A & > Barbara [Schramm] Ringer.) m. 5-1-1893 and had son Bernard Oscar b. > 1-16-1896 in Zanesville, OH d. 5-21-1965 in Tucson, AZ m. 11-7-1918 to Laura > G. Romick b. 12-17-1899 in Canton, OH, d. 2-2-1967 in Phoenix, AZ (Laura's > parents: Howard A & Katherine [Langley] Romick). They had son **James > Lawrence b. 5-21-1931 who m. Bernice E. Jones. > Jan in WA > hollandj@uonline.net > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > The Roll Family Genealogy Windmill > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

David & Tom: Going through some old unconnected Roll files and came across some I thought might be of interest. Some of these listed as Alsace Loraine, Germany or France ((below marked with *) The following is all I have except ** where I have addresses sent with family information. Still have some more files to go thru but thought I would send this info out to you. Hope it fills in some blanks. Jan John Roll m. Theresa Yaw ? Child: Modest J b 1870 * who m. Seline Blind b. 1875 *. Their ch: Herman, **Joseph, twins Arthur & Ernest, John, Helen, Gertrude, Sophie & Elsie - ---------------------------- Eugene Roll b. * m. Anna Wagner b. 1870 in Stellin, Germany d. 1942 in Imlay, MI. ch: Eugene Ernest b. 1904, Mt. Cleureus, MI d. 1965 m. Bernice Munn ca 1930. Ch: 1) Patricia Ann m. James Hinson, Res: Clawson, MI; 2) Donald Eugene, married with 6 children; 3) **Thomas James m. 1960 with ch: Kevin Thomas and Melissa Dawn who both live in Troy, MI. [Anna Wagner had prior m. to Mr. Schultz=ch: Arthur and Walter] - ------------------------------- Michael Roll b. 1832 in Erstein, Alsace Lorraine, [Germany] -first wife's name unknown. 2nd marriage to Hedwig Zimmerman b. Bavaria,Germany (8 children) only 3 listed- 1) Michael Henry b. 9-20-1880 at Mankato, MN, d. 12-23-1969 at Spokane, WA and married on 12-27- 1919, Edna Eunice Robinson b. 10-9-1896 in Livingston, WY 1 ch: a)**Marjorie Hazel b. 3-4-1921, m. 10-17-1956 to Jay Carl McDowell-b. 7-16-1913-2 ch: 1) Marilyn Joyce b. 8-9-1957; 2) Susan Kathleen b. 2-9-1957 2) Albert married and had **Robert who married _____ Petri 3) Frances(female) who m. _______ Hillisheim and had dau. Gertrude M. who m. _____Unser (res: Mr. Angel, OR, who had son **Richard H Unger. - ---------------------------------- Ignatious Roll b. 9-22-1781, d. 1-12-1864 & m. Magdaline Fischer b. 2-1794, d. 2-16-1859. Their son Frank A b. 2-4-1825, Dittwiller, Bas. Rhine Fr. d. 10-10-1899 in Zanesville, OH, m. 11-24-1850 to Magdaline Stehle b. 4-6-1826 in Sindelfinger, Bas. Rhine Fr. & d. 1-4-1902 in Zanesville, OH. Their son Theodore b. 1-5-1866 Zanesville, OH d. 12-21921 same place. m. Louisa Ringer b. 3-19-1870 d. 12-13-1942 both Zanesville, OH.(her parents: Charles A & Barbara [Schramm] Ringer.) m. 5-1-1893 and had son Bernard Oscar b. 1-16-1896 in Zanesville, OH d. 5-21-1965 in Tucson, AZ m. 11-7-1918 to Laura G. Romick b. 12-17-1899 in Canton, OH, d. 2-2-1967 in Phoenix, AZ (Laura's parents: Howard A & Katherine [Langley] Romick). They had son **James Lawrence b. 5-21-1931 who m. Bernice E. Jones. Jan in WA hollandj@uonline.net

David...with reference to your e-mail of November 7th., I've searched everything I have and I don't come up with your JOHN ROLL who was born in Strasbourg or Bouxwiller in 1769-70 nor with your Michael Roll who was born 29 Sep 1829 also in either Strasbourg or Bouxwiller. My direct line of Rolls were born first in Monswiller in 1706 (now a suburb of Saverne) and from 1763 on in Dettwiller (a village about 5 or 6 miles N.E. of Saverne. Regards the town (to large for a village) of Bouxwiller, it was the District Town or Regional Town before the District, or Region, was moved to Saverne. [Bouxwiller is a lovely old Alsacian town...many, many very old houses.] Therefore, even though (this is in no way certain) Bouxwiller was mentioned as the birth place the persons could have been born in one of the many numerous villages and the records kept in Bouxwiller. I've thrown this in not to confuse your search but for something to keep in the back of your mind. Strasbourg is, of course, the capitol of Bas Rhin & of Haut Rhin. Claude Roll, the recently elected Director of the Genealogy Society of Alsace, might be able to help you with this. I visited with Claude and his family for four days in Strasbourg. He is affiliated with the Latter Day Saints (LDS). And all of my information before 1832 was collected by Claude. He is sometimes covered up with work but here is his e-mail address p22@club-internet.fr David, I'm sorry I couldn't help you more. Tom Roll ----- Original Message ----- From: <DapWyn@aol.com> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [ROLL] French Rolls > For Tom Roll, > > Hope your visit to Alsace was a great experience. My great grandfather, > Michael Roll, was born in Strasbourg. Some specifics on Michael and his > father follow. While I cannot go back beyond his father, he must have been > related to the other "French" Rolls in Alsace on the list. > > Father: John Roll b. 1769-70 Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Alsace-Louraine, > France m. Marie (?) d. Lancaster, New York or Mankato, Minnesota, USA bur. > Calvary Cemetery, Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. Abodes: > Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Alsace-Louraine, France; Lancaster, New York, USA; > Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. Marie: b. France(?) d. Lancaster, > New York or Mankato, Minnesota, USA bur. Calvary Cemetery, Mankato, > Minnesota, USA. There was a John Roll listed in the 1850 census as living > with a George Roll in Lancaster, New York, USA and as being 81 years old at > the time of the census. This would put his birth date around 1769. > > Michael: Michael Roll b. 29 Sep 1829 Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Bas-Rhin > (Alsace-Louraine), France. m(1). Maria Rosa (?) 1854(?) d. 7 Dec 1895 > Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. bur. 7 Dec 1895 Calvary Cemetery, > Mankato, Minnesota, USA. Abodes: Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Alsace-Louraine, > France; Lancaster, New York, USA; Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. > Michael was a member of Saint Mary of the Assumption Roman Catholic Parish, > Lancaster, New York (Erie County) in 1860-1867. Michael apparently came to > the United States some time shortly prior to 1860. Maria Rosa: d. Based on > the name and birth date of their last child, Maria Rosa, and the date of > Michael's second marriage, his first wife, Maria Rosa may have died in > connection with the birth of their daughter, Maria Rosa on 5 Apr 1863. The > New York church record mentioning Maria Rosa is in Latin which makes it > difficult to determine whether it is recording the birth of the daughter or > the death of the mother. > > I would be interested in any possible connections with your Roll line in > Alsace. > > Nancy Lohbrunner has asked if I had any additional information on Michael > Roll's family in Lancaster, New York. All I have are the children I believe > were born there: > > William Roll b. 1855 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA > Joseph Roll b. 1857 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA m. Bertha (?) > Wisconsin, USA. Occupation: Blacksmith (Joseph's daughter: Louisa Roll b. 10 > Oct 1883 Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA.) > Frank Roll b. 1860 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA > Catherine F. Roll b. 1862 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA > Maria Rosa Roll b. 5 Apr 1863 Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA > > Michael Roll's second marriage: Hedwig "Hattie" Zimmerman 1864(?) Lancaster, > Erie County, New York, USA(?) St.Peter and Pauls Catholic Church records for > Calvary Cemetery in Mankato, Minnesota show the following: Section 10, Block > 2, Lots 5,6,7,8 "Michael Roll", "Hedwig Roll", "Mrs. Roll", "Mr. Roll". The > Roll plot in Calvary Cemetery is marked by a large stone cross standing 10 > feet high with "ROLL" chiseled in large letters. On the opposite side of the > cross are chiseled birth and death dates for Michael and Hedwig in German > language. While from Alsace-Louraine and listing his nationality as French in > several Minnesota census listing, the Michael Roll family spoke "Low German" > (Platt Deutsche) and appear to have been, in general, culturally German. > Hedwig: b. 17 May 1843 Baden (Baden-Baden?), Germany Parents: Michael > Zimmerman (b. Germany) and Francis Hedwig(?) (b. Germany) d. 23 Jan 1903 > Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. bur. 31 Jan 1903 Calvary > Cemetery, Mankato, Minnesota, USA. Michael and Hedwig arrived in Mankato, > Minnesota around 1869 after moving from Lancaster (Erie County) New York, USA. > > Children born in Lancaster, New York from Michael's second marriage: > > Francis (Roll) Hillesheim b. 2 Apr 1866 Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA > m. Arnold Hillesheim d. 18 Feb 1940 LeSueur, Minnesota bur. Calvary Cemetery, > Madelia, Minnesota. "She [Francis] moved from Minnesota to Oregon in the late > 1920's and lived with us until 1939 [Her daughter, Gertrude, had moved to > Oregon following her own marriage in 1923.] when she left to visit my two > uncles [Fred & Alphonse] in Minnesota. She had a stroke there in October 1939 > and died in February of 1940." > > Clara Roll b. 1867-68 Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA m. 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44 photos !!!!!!! One would suspect you guys are rather proud. Congratulations. Ed

There are 44 pictures of our infant twins, Daniel and Jacob Pickering-Mahan Slinker, on a web site. There are several ways to view the photos: Album -- thumbnail photos appear in black and white. Click on the photo and it will appear in color. Click on the "X" in the upper right hand corner of the color photo to go back to the thumbnail pics. Tour -- see color photos in sequence. The web site is: www.bigtoe.net Click on Baby Photos You must enter a user name and password using lower case letters. User Name: daniel Password: jacob (you will not actually see the letters since this is a password) Hope you enjoy the photos. Pamela J. Pickering Slinker Roll Family Line

For Tom Roll, Hope your visit to Alsace was a great experience. My great grandfather, Michael Roll, was born in Strasbourg. Some specifics on Michael and his father follow. While I cannot go back beyond his father, he must have been related to the other "French" Rolls in Alsace on the list. Father: John Roll b. 1769-70 Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Alsace-Louraine, France m. Marie (?) d. Lancaster, New York or Mankato, Minnesota, USA bur. Calvary Cemetery, Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. Abodes: Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Alsace-Louraine, France; Lancaster, New York, USA; Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. Marie: b. France(?) d. Lancaster, New York or Mankato, Minnesota, USA bur. Calvary Cemetery, Mankato, Minnesota, USA. There was a John Roll listed in the 1850 census as living with a George Roll in Lancaster, New York, USA and as being 81 years old at the time of the census. This would put his birth date around 1769. Michael: Michael Roll b. 29 Sep 1829 Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Bas-Rhin (Alsace-Louraine), France. m(1). Maria Rosa (?) 1854(?) d. 7 Dec 1895 Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. bur. 7 Dec 1895 Calvary Cemetery, Mankato, Minnesota, USA. Abodes: Strasbourg or Bouxwiller, Alsace-Louraine, France; Lancaster, New York, USA; Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. Michael was a member of Saint Mary of the Assumption Roman Catholic Parish, Lancaster, New York (Erie County) in 1860-1867. Michael apparently came to the United States some time shortly prior to 1860. Maria Rosa: d. Based on the name and birth date of their last child, Maria Rosa, and the date of Michael's second marriage, his first wife, Maria Rosa may have died in connection with the birth of their daughter, Maria Rosa on 5 Apr 1863. The New York church record mentioning Maria Rosa is in Latin which makes it difficult to determine whether it is recording the birth of the daughter or the death of the mother. I would be interested in any possible connections with your Roll line in Alsace. Nancy Lohbrunner has asked if I had any additional information on Michael Roll's family in Lancaster, New York. All I have are the children I believe were born there: William Roll b. 1855 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA Joseph Roll b. 1857 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA m. Bertha (?) Wisconsin, USA. Occupation: Blacksmith (Joseph's daughter: Louisa Roll b. 10 Oct 1883 Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA.) Frank Roll b. 1860 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA Catherine F. Roll b. 1862 Lancaster(?), Erie County, New York, USA Maria Rosa Roll b. 5 Apr 1863 Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA Michael Roll's second marriage: Hedwig "Hattie" Zimmerman 1864(?) Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA(?) St.Peter and Pauls Catholic Church records for Calvary Cemetery in Mankato, Minnesota show the following: Section 10, Block 2, Lots 5,6,7,8 "Michael Roll", "Hedwig Roll", "Mrs. Roll", "Mr. Roll". The Roll plot in Calvary Cemetery is marked by a large stone cross standing 10 feet high with "ROLL" chiseled in large letters. On the opposite side of the cross are chiseled birth and death dates for Michael and Hedwig in German language. While from Alsace-Louraine and listing his nationality as French in several Minnesota census listing, the Michael Roll family spoke "Low German" (Platt Deutsche) and appear to have been, in general, culturally German. Hedwig: b. 17 May 1843 Baden (Baden-Baden?), Germany Parents: Michael Zimmerman (b. Germany) and Francis Hedwig(?) (b. Germany) d. 23 Jan 1903 Mankato, Blue Earth County, Minnesota, USA. bur. 31 Jan 1903 Calvary Cemetery, Mankato, Minnesota, USA. Michael and Hedwig arrived in Mankato, Minnesota around 1869 after moving from Lancaster (Erie County) New York, USA. Children born in Lancaster, New York from Michael's second marriage: Francis (Roll) Hillesheim b. 2 Apr 1866 Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA m. Arnold Hillesheim d. 18 Feb 1940 LeSueur, Minnesota bur. Calvary Cemetery, Madelia, Minnesota. "She [Francis] moved from Minnesota to Oregon in the late 1920's and lived with us until 1939 [Her daughter, Gertrude, had moved to Oregon following her own marriage in 1923.] when she left to visit my two uncles [Fred & Alphonse] in Minnesota. She had a stroke there in October 1939 and died in February of 1940." Clara Roll b. 1867-68 Lancaster, Erie County, New York, USA m. William Budde David Petrie Arden Hills, Minnesota, USA dapwyn@aol.com

attn: Faith The following is all I have on John Eddy and his family. Hope it will give you a clue for further research. "New Jersey Post-Revolutionary Documents" Vol 13. calendar of Wills--1814-1817. p 143. "1817, Feb 10. Eddy, John, of Morris Twsp., and Co.; will of. Daughter, Mary Roll, $250. Residue of real and personal estate to children of my son, William, the boys having 2 shares to the girls; 1 share. Executors--William Eddy, William Roll, Silas Lindsly. Witnesses--John Pierson, Jacob Allen, Stephen P. Freeman. Proved May 24, 1817, when William Eddy signed as executor. 1817, May 23. Inventory, $254.46; made by Elias Howell, Jacob Allen. File 1685 N." Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

In a message dated 99-11-02 19:32:19 EST, you write: << Did you ever post where your ROLLS lived? By any chance did any relations of your ancestor's live in AL? Did you read the post by Jan Davis-Shannon? I can't remember anyone but you on the list who had a ROLLS surname. >> Don't know how useful this may be, but there is a JOAN V RALLS in Herrin, IL. Eric

Hi Faith, Yes, I would like the added information. Please post to the list, that way the data will go into the archives for future researchers. Thank you, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Mary's parents were John Eddy and Mary Ward. I have tried in vain to gather something on these two. They have what really are common names among the Eddy and Ward lines. All I have is possible born in NJ. I was on the Ward list for months and could make no connections. The only Eddy's found in Sangamon area, if they even went there were the ones who went with the Donner Party, which no one has been able to identify other than they came from New England area, not NJ. So, don't know where to look next for them. Mary Caroline Roll is mine. They left IL about 1867 and moved to Marion, KS where she died 18 Dec 1877. Will be sending their children, etc to Jan if you would like I can also send to you, or post to the list. Faith -----Original Message----- From: LOHBRUNNER <LOHBRUNNER@prodigy.net> To: ROLL-L@rootsweb.com <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 5:21 PM Subject: [ROLL] Wm Roll & Mary Eddy >Attn Faith, > >Do you have the death date for Mary Eddy? Any additional information about >this family other than what Jan wrote? > >Thank you, >Nancy Lohbrunner >lohbrunner@prodigy.net > > > > >==== ROLL Mailing List ==== >First Families of Westfield, New Jersey >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5096 > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi Bert, Did you ever post where your ROLLS lived? By any chance did any relations of your ancestor's live in AL? Did you read the post by Jan Davis-Shannon? I can't remember anyone but you on the list who had a ROLLS surname. Anyone beside Bert and Jan on the list researching the ROLLS surname? How about any other spelling in the southern states? Thank you, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Attn Faith, Do you have the death date for Mary Eddy? Any additional information about this family other than what Jan wrote? Thank you, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Attn Jan Holland Hi Jan, I have a couple of questions concerning the above family. As the first child you show Ann Pierson Roll Harry Wahl showed her as Mary Ann Roll (I thought it was strange that there were two daughters named Mary.) _______ Second child You show as Phebe LINDSLY Roll is Lindsly correct? ------------ Third child marriage place as Sangamon Co., NJ typo? Should it be IL? ________ Tenth child You show spouse as ary MOSALAUDER Harry Wahl had MOSSLANDER (Anyone have any ideas?) ------------- FYI According to John Littel, "Family Records or Genealogies of the First Settlers of Passaic Valley" 1881, p 350. William Roll was born 16 Oct 1786. Thank you, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Thank you Jan, that clears up that problem for me. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net