Nancy...this JOHN ROLL wasn't in my line of ROLLs. My Ignatius Roll,1789 (or so) to 1864, immigrated to Muskingum County, Ohio, in 1832. Boy, I hadn't seen you on the web for several weeks. I hope you have a wonderful Y2K (Year 2000). Tom Roll ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Lohbrunner <Lohbrunner@prodigy.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 4:52 PM Subject: [ROLL] John Roll > Seems to me that I have asked this question before, if I have then the > answer is buried deep in one of my 'to-do' piles. If I get the answer, I > promise to enter it into my computer ASAP. > > Who were the parents of the John ROLL who married Polly STANBURY on 2 > January 1792 at the Westfield Presbyterian Church in Westfield, NJ? > > I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday and that your New Years holiday will > be great. > > Nancy Lohbrunner > lohbrunner@prodigy.net > > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet > http://www.cyndislist.com > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Seems to me that I have asked this question before, if I have then the answer is buried deep in one of my 'to-do' piles. If I get the answer, I promise to enter it into my computer ASAP. Who were the parents of the John ROLL who married Polly STANBURY on 2 January 1792 at the Westfield Presbyterian Church in Westfield, NJ? I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday and that your New Years holiday will be great. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Nancy, I wish your message had come out before 1 pm on Saturday when I left for the library. With both holidays falling on Saturday, it will be quite some time til I get back to the library again. I will look for the articles. Did you find anything new on the family of Tryntje Van Woggelum who married Jan Mangels? Margaret Scheffler Nancy Lohbrunner wrote: > > Has anyone checked the 4th quarter NYG&B to see if there was an article > pertaining to any of the Dutch Roll ancestor's? I heard from Barbara Barth > (author of the NYG&B Van Wogglelum article's) and she wrote that the (Dutch > NY & NJ) ROLL article will be published late in January. > > I hope that everyone has a wonderful holiday and a very happy Y2K. Hopefully > this list will have more activity after the holidays. > > Nancy Lohbrunner > lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Has anyone checked the 4th quarter NYG&B to see if there was an article pertaining to any of the Dutch Roll ancestor's? I heard from Barbara Barth (author of the NYG&B Van Wogglelum article's) and she wrote that the (Dutch NY & NJ) ROLL article will be published late in January. I hope that everyone has a wonderful holiday and a very happy Y2K. Hopefully this list will have more activity after the holidays. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

The following was sent to another list that I am on. I hope everyone has a happy holiday. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net Subject: Twas The Day Before Yesterday > >> > > >> >> Twas The Day Before Yesterday > >> >> > >> >> TWAS the day before yesterday and all through the branches, > >> >> NOT a name to be found, none of my ancestors. > >> >> > >> >> THE Journals and Bibles were dusty and worn, > >> >> WHY should we care, these kinfolk are gone. > >> >> > >> >> THE pictures of children and family, long ago dead, > >> >> ARE scattered, crinkled, and crammed under beds. > >> >> > >> >> DAD in his chair, and I with a book, > >> >> HAD just settled back to give the TV a look. > >> >> > >> >> WHEN out on the street there arose such a clatter, > >> >> I sprang to my feet to see what was the matter. > >> >> > >> >> ON the way to the window I tripped with a crash, > >> >> I tore open the curtains and looked through the glass. > >> >> > >> >> THE sun in the sky was nowhere in sight, > >> >> THE clouds were so gray, it could have been night. > >> >> > >> >> WHEN what to my wondering eyes should appear, > >> >> THE Mailman with packages, letters and cards of good cheer. > >> >> > >> >> THE driver was grumbling while sorting his letters, > >> >> I knew in a moment, things had to get better. > >> >> > >> >> THE size of one letter stood out from them all, > >> >> A distant cousin was asking about family, one and all. > >> >> > >> >> THE names of Grandpa and Grandma, Great Grandparents all, > >> >> NEXT came my Father, my Brother, and Uncle Paul. > >> >> > >> >> FROM cousins and uncles to aunts and nephews, > >> >> NIECES and in-laws, just to name a few. > >> >> > >> >> SO through the many journals and photos, and stuff I possessed, > >> >> MY search for my ancestors slowly progressed. > >> >> > >> >> WHILE up the family tree I gradually climbed, > >> >> MY ancestors names, I was seeking to find. > >> >> > >> >> UPON that tree I have carved many a name, > >> >> THE branches of which, will never be the same. > >> >> > >> >> THE tree is now filled with many I've found, > >> >> BUT in the search for others, now I am bound. > >> >> > >> >> THE ancestors whose names, I have written with love, > >> >> THE Lord has gathered to take to His Father above. > >> >> > >> >> WITH so many names yet to be carved on that tree, > >> >> I have little time to waste on games and TV. > >> >> > >> >> GATHERING names, photos, histories and places, > >> >> REQUIRES a lot of love, patience, and God's good graces. > >> >> > >> >> SOME were Farmers, Soldiers & such, Mothers & Fathers > >> >> who struggled much. > >> >> SOME were Settlers, who traveled far, some Adventures, > >> >> who followed the stars. > >> >> > >> >> SOME were rich, but most were poor, they came by ship, > >> >> seeking more. > >> >> SOME died young, others old, many their stories yet untold. > >> >> > >> >> I cried when I thought of those brothers and sisters, > >> >> FOR I am who I am, thanks to my ancestors. > >> >> > >> >> MY family is but one branch on the Tree of Life, > >> >> A tree that grew strong through toil and strife. > >> >> > >> >> ALONE, I'm just a bare twig or a stub, > >> >> TOGETHER we build a Family Tree of Love > >> > > >> >

Does anyone have a 2nd marriage for either John (son of Abraham Roll & Prudence Vance) or Sarah Whallon Roll-parents of James W, Thomas Whallon and Abigail? TIA Jan in WA

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Have a friend looking for info on Jane Roll who married Joseph Wilkinson. Had dau. Abigail R. Wilkinson b. 6 Mar 1834 in OH who married Jasper S. Buxton b. 1834 in OH. Can anyone tell me the parents of this Jane Roll? TIA Jan hollandj@uonline.net

Just received this from a friend and thought it might be of interest to some on the list. Jan Isaac R(a)ll is listed probably Isaac Roll who was married to Elizabeth Thompson in 1813. Is there anyone who may have military records for this Isaac who would be willing to share them with the list? Jan (from an affidavit filed by Patsey (Roll) Preston) (dau. of John Roll & Martha Force) "That her said husband(Abijah Preston) Volunteered at Hamilton County Ohio on or about the 14th day of April, A.D. 1812, for the term of 12 months, and continued in actual service in said war for the term of until surrendered by Genl Hull at Detroit on the 16th day of August A.D. 1812, as will appear by the Muster Rolls of said Company. He arrived at home in September AD 1812, That she was called by her friends by the short name of Patsey Roll and she refers to the Certificate attached marked "A" to prove her said marriage." Pages 321-322. . ROLL OF CAPT. EPHRAIM BROWN'S COMPANY (County Unknown). . Served from, July 2, 1812, until April. 24, 1313. Capt. Ephraim Brown . Lieut. Robert Guthrie . Ensign John W. Jones Sergt. Lyman Crary . Sergt. Joseph Cady . Sergt. William Gard Sergt. John Slaybock . Corp. James Risk . Corp. Nathaniel French Corp. Roswell Hazeltine' . Corp. Daniel Jessup . Privates. . Privates. . Privates. Auter, Thomas . Beard, David . Brocaw, Henry Babbit, Calvin . Baxter, Thomas . Culbages, George Cox, Asa . Cooper, Hiram . Carle, Stephen Dunseth, David Jr. . Danford, Benjamin . Doty, Zachariah Furbush, Ephraim . Fulton, Abraham T. . Gamble, Samuel Guthrie, William . Guthrie, John . Handcock, Daniel Heckweller, Daniel . Johnston, James . Johnston, Thomas Jenkinson, John G. . Laurance, Azel . Ledoi, John Love,, John . Martin, Henry . Morton, Washington Mattox, David A. . Matts, Christopher . Milton, George Master, David . Miller, John . McLee, William McCammon, Isaac . Newkirk, John . Nichols. John Patterson, Martin . Preston, John . Pasmore, Henry Preston, Abijah . Preston, Joseph . Pain, Daniel Rall, Isaac . Redenbaugh, James . Riley, Joshua Sawyer, Stephen . Shadley, James . Steele, John Swin, Bur S. . Sisco, John . Tucker, Samuel Twaddle, James . Updegraff, Andrew . Wilkinson, John

Jan, I think that was wonderful of you to take all of that time to enter those ROLL lines. I found a connection in #1154 which I copied below and will add the information I have in my tree. (some of which could be right or wrong) If anyone else has a connection or more information about this line, I would love to hear from you! I am new to the list and haven't had much time to post my line yet, so I guess now is my chance. Thanks again Jan, and if you have any further information on this line or the submitter, please contact me. Sara Brainard-Gerdes Punkipy@aol.com (my info is posted below Jan's) In a message dated 11/23/99 2:52:50 PM Mountain Standard Time, hollandj@uonline.net writes: << Family 1154 First Generation 1. Carl M ROLL. Born 1860. Died 20 Mar 1934. He married Karen O BERG, 1884. Born 1858. Died 3 Jul 1945. They had the following children: 2 i. Jacob ROLL 3 ii. Carroll C ROLL 4 iii. Elmer ROLL 5 iv. Christine Second Generation 2. Jacob ROLL. Son of Carl M ROLL & Karen O BERG. Born 2 Nov 1894. Died 24 Nov 1966. He married Carol BOE, 1 May 1927. Born 24 Mar 1908. Died 9 Jun 1976. They had the following children: 6 i. Richard Joseph ROLL 7 ii. James Jerome ROLL 8 iii. Elizabeth Anne >> Carl Magnus ROLL b. May 20, 1861 d. March 20, 1943 m. Karen Oline BERG b. Dec. 15, 1858 d. July 1, 1945 CHILDREN: 1.Sophie Elsie ROLL b. July 27, 1884 in Trondheim, Norway (this is my great-grandmother) m. John Dennis BRAINARD 2. Ingeborg Olana ROLL b. Oct. 3, 1886 3. Elmer ROLL b. Sept. 27, 1891 4. Jacob ROLL b. Nov. 2, 1895 5. Caroll (male) ROLL b. April 5, 1896 6. Christine K. ROLL b. Oct. 12, 1899 7. Arnold ROLL b. Dec. 20, 1902 8. Christine ROLL died in infancy I have more info on each of these people that I will share if asked. Hope to make a connection to someone on the list.

In a message dated 11/24/99 12:59:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Lohbrunner@prodigy.net writes: << Margaret, The children of Jan Mangels changed their surname to the English ROLL. I have not found the parents of Jan. >> ____________________________________________________________ Hi Nancy, i found your information to be really interesting. This is the first time -- outside of family 'folklore' -- that I have heard of anything sounding like MANGEL being changed to ROLL. Was this done in Holland, do you think? You may remember that we once talked about my Jewish ancestors who fled Spain into Holland during the fifteenth century where their Hebrew/Arabic sounding name (unknown) underwent many changes in response to social pressures (e.g., marriage, religious persecution, etc.) until it became BENEL (Ben-El = Son of God), MANNEL (Mann El =? Man of God), MANGEL (change one letter and you're there), and then ROLL (a 'roll' is synonymous with a 'mangle' as in 'washing machine mangle'). The same family stories also make reference to a member (noname) who came to New Amsterdam from the Dutch colony of SURINAM. It is not told whether this individual continued to maintain the Jewish faith, or if he was not already Christian. I know that some Jews were deported from Brazil and did enter New Amsterdam during Pieter Stuyvesant's term as Governor. I believe that he did not wish to allow them to enter the colony and wrote to Holland expressing his objections but was overruled by the Dutch government much to his chagrin (probably some of my ancestors ruined the entire neighborhood). Do you think it possible that Jan MANGELS who changed his name to ROLL after New Amsterdam was taken by the English may have come from a family whose traditions included the changing of names -- or horses, or religions -- whenever it seemed advantageous to do so? That would sound like my family all right -- Lord Eric Roll (British 1st cousin) is, for instance, a member of the Anglican Church and few know that he was born in a Jewish ghetto in eastern Europe. I feel certain that I will never know the answers. People who make such life style 'adjustments' would not, I think, go about advertising what they had done. Else why make those changes in the first place? The records must contain enormous gaps. It is all very interesting though, in a romantic sort of way. I wonder what they must have been like, those early pragmatists; I wonder if some of them may not, themselves, have looked into the future and wondered what their descendants would someday be like. Too bad we cannot reach across those gaps. Here is an interesting aside for you: When I was a teen-ager I attended Newtown H.S. in Elmhurst, NY. Elmhurst had once been part of a Dutch area which either they or the British referred to as NEWTOWN. There was a Dutch church near my school which had been built in the time of New Amsterdam. It had burned to its' stone foundation during the early eighteenth century, and had been rebuilt. The graveyard still contained early gravestones which had been marked by fire. One of these, I recall, was of a young girl -- about seventeen -- who had died in the mid sixteen hundreds. The stone was too much damaged to decipher completely but someone must have known who she was because, often, in the Spring, there were flowers on her grave. The church and the graveyard are still there on Woodhaven Blvd. near the Public Library... There are many early names. If you come up with anything more about Jan MANGELS -> ROLL in 'Amerika,' please let me hear from you... Now to turkey matters!! Thanks, Eric Roll bjolla@aol.com

Margaret, I goofed when I said WWII in my last message, I should have written WWI. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Dear Jan Holland...many, many thanks for all of your efforts in posting ROLL information. Although none of the families you listed fit in with my particular line, I, and many, many others, greatly appreciated all of your work. Sincerely, Tom Roll ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 5:44 PM Subject: [ROLL] Posting info > Hi all- > That is about the end of my postings for now. Please remember that the > majority of that information was gathered by Martha when we worked together > on the Roll's in the 1980's. All info was submitted by family members and > always a chance it contain errors. Many of the posts have additional > information I didn't feel right about posting to the list. Feel free to > check with me if you find a family connection and want additional or > submitter's information. > Hope some of you were able to make a connection. > Happy Thanksgiving > Jan > > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > The Olive Tree Genealogy Homepage > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Margaret, I believe the Roll surname comes from various countries. On this list are Rolls who originated in France, Germany, Switzerland and Russia, besides the Dutch Roll's. There are some Roll researchers in Australia on the list whose ancestor was a descendant of Jan Mangel, their ancestor moved to Australia after WWII. This list is for all Roll (various spellings, Rolls, Rall, Rowl, etc) researchers. My own ancestors changed their name from Roll to Rall, believe that was just due to circumstances not deliberate. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Margaret, The children of Jan Mangels changed their surname to the English ROLL. I have not found the parents of Jan. Descendants of Jan Mangelse and Tryntje "Catharine" Pieters 1. Jan1 Mangelse , born abt 1635; died abt 1704 in , , NY, son of Mangel (---) . He married in 1660 in , Beverwyck, Albany, NY Tryntje "Catharine" Pieters , born in , , NY; died bef 1705 in , , NY, daughter of Pieter Adriaensen Van Woggelum and Daughter of Caniachkoo . Children of Jan Mangelse and Tryntje "Catharine" Pieters were as follows: 2 i Mangel Janse2 Roll , born abt 1665 in Rensselaerswyck, , NY; died 19 Apr 1744 in , , NY. 3 ii Antje Janse2 Raal , born abt 1672 in Niskayuna, , NY; died abt 1690. 4 iii Pieter Janse2 Roll , born 1670 in Albany, , NY; died 1712 in Staten Island, Richmond, NY. 5 iv Tryntje Janse2 Roll , born abt 1675 in Niskayuna, , NY; died aft 1712. 6 v Johannes Janse2 Roll , christened 27 Jan 1686 in Dutch Ref Chu, Albany, NY, died aft 1747. Pieter Adriaensen Van Woggelum and Daughter of Caniachkoo 1. Pieter Adriaensen1 Van Woggelum [960], born abt 1610 in , Woggelum, Near Alkmaar, Holland; died aft 1680 in Albany, Albany, NY, son of Adriaen Pietersen Van Woggelum [948] and Annetie Pieters [946] . He married abt 1635 in , , NY Daughter of Caniachkoo [1262], born in , , NY, daughter of (---) Caniachkoo [1261] . Children of Pieter Adriaensen Van Woggelum and Daughter of Caniachkoo were as follows: 2 i Pieter Pieterse2 Van Woggelum (Capt) [958], died abt 1724 in New York, , NY. 3 ii Jan Pieterse Adriaense2 Woggelum [957], born abt 1647 in Amsterdam, , , NY; died abt 1719 in Staten Island, Richmond, NY. 4 iii Tryntje "Catharine"2 Pieters [961], born in , , NY; died bef 1705 in , , NY. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Margaret, Descendants of Pieter Janse Roll and Jannetje Du Chesne 1. Pieter Janse1 Roll , born 1670 in Albany, , NY; died 1712 in Staten Island, Richmond, NY, son of Jan Mangelse and Tryntje "Catharine" Pieters . He married in 1695 Jannetje Du Chesne , born abt 1677 in , , NY, daughter of Antoine Du Chesne and Annetje Boucquet . Children of Pieter Janse Roll and Jannetje Du Chesne were as follows: 2 i Antje Mangels2 Roll . 3 ii Catherine Mangels2 Roll . 4 iii Martje "Maria"2 Roll , born 1700; christened 1 Sep 1700 in Schenectady Ref, Schenectady, , NY. 5 iv Francyntje2 Roll , born 1702; christened 18 Oct 1702 in Schenectady Ref, Schenectady, , NY. 6 v Margrietje2 Roll , born 1707; christened 14 Dec 1707 in Ref Dutch Church, New York, , NY. 7 vi John Mangels2 Roll , born 1708 in Staten Island, Richmond, NY; died Feb 1782 in New Providence, , NJ. 8 vii Jannetje Mangels2 Roll , born 1709 in , , NY; christened 16 Oct 1709 in Ref Dutch Church, New York, , NY. Descendants of Antoine Du Chesne and Annetje Boucquet 1. Antoine1 Du Chesne , born 1640 in Saintonge, , , France; died abt 1711 in Staten Island, Richmond, NY He married bef 1665 Annetje Boucquet , born 1640 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands; died 1712, daughter of Jerome Boucquet and Anne Torion . Children of Antoine Du Chesne and Annetje Boucquet were as follows: 2 i Jerome2 Du Chesne , born abt 1666; died abt 1736. 3 ii Jannetje2 Du Chesne , born abt 1677 in , , NY. 4 iii Marytje2 Du Chesne , christened 27 Jul 1679 in Flatbush Dut Chu, Vlackebosch, Kings, NJ. 5 iv Valentine2 Du Chesne , christened 3 Jul 1681 in Flatbush Dut Chu, Vlackebosch, Kings, NY, died abt 1735 in , , DE. 6 v Gerrit2 Du Chesne , born 28 Jan 1683 in , Brooklyn, Kings, NY; christened 28 Jun 1683 in , Brooklyn, Kings, NY. 7 vi Michael2 Du Chesne , born abt 1686. 8 vii Anna2 Du Chesne , christened 19 Apr 1686 in , Brooklyn, Kings, NY. 9 viii Francyntie2 Du Chesne . Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Hi Margaret, This is the family of John Roll and wife, Elizabeth. Descendants of John Mangels Roll and Elizabeth Strickhauser 1. John Mangels1 Roll , born 1708 in Staten Island, Richmond, NY; died Feb 1782 in New Providence, , NJ, son of Pieter Janse Roll and Jannetje Du Chesne . He married in 1732 Elizabeth Strickhauser , born 5 Apr 1704 in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany; died in , , NJ, daughter of Balthasar Strickhauser and Catharina Krobel . Children of John Mangels Roll and Elizabeth Strickhauser were as follows: 2 i John2 Roll , born 17 Oct 1733 in Springfield, Essex, NJ; died 23 Oct 1808 in Cincinnati, Hamilton, OH. 3 ii Isaac2 Roll , born 1735 in , Essex, NJ; died 9 Nov 1809 in Springfield, Essex, NJ. 4 iii Mary "Molly"2 Roll , born 1737 in , Essex, NJ. 5 iv Abraham2 Roll , born 29 Aug 1739 in , Essex, NJ; died 20 Oct 1813 in Summit, Union, NJ. 6 v Catherine (Catron)2 Roll , born 1741 in , Essex, NJ. 7 vi Jane (Jean)2 Roll , born 12 Sep 1743 in Springfield Twp, Essex, NJ; died 13 Mar 1828 in New Carlisle, Clark, OH. NOTE: It has not been proven that "Elizabeth's" surname was Strickhauser. Descendants of Balthasar Strickhauser and Catharina Krobel 1. Balthasar1 Strickhauser , born in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany; christened 1 Jan 1664 in , Bad Kreuznach, , Germany, son of Christian "Christoph" Strickhauser and Catharina Munster . He married on 19 Feb 1692 in , , , Germany Catharina Krobel , born in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany. Children of Balthasar Strickhauser and Catharina Krobel were as follows: 2 i Christoph2 Strickhauser , born 5 Apr 1693 in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany. 3 ii Susanna2 Strickhauser , born in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany; christened 9 Feb 1696 in , Bad Kreuznach, , Germany. 4 iii Johannes2 Strickhauser , born 3 Dec 1697 in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany. 5 iv Johann Philip2 Strickhauser , born 13 Feb 1699 in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany. 6 v Johan Jacob2 Strickhauser , born 28 Dec 1701 in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany. 7 vi Elizabeth2 Strickhauser , born 5 Apr 1704 in Bad Kreuznach, , , Germany; died in , , NJ. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Margaret, Below is what I have on the family of Abraham Roll and Mary Brooks Descendants of Abraham Roll and Mary Brooks and Catherine "Caty" Vreeland 1. Abraham1 Roll , born 29 Aug 1739 in , Essex, NJ; died 20 Oct 1813 in Summit, Union, NJ, son of John Mangels Roll and Elizabeth Strickhauser . He married (1) in , , Essex, NJ Mary Brooks , born 5 Feb 1742; died 1783, daughter of Jacob Brooks ; (2) Catherine "Caty" Vreeland , died 9 Aug 1814. Children of Abraham Roll and Mary Brooks were as follows: 2 i Elizabeth2 Roll , born 29 Aug 1759; died 26 Sep 1850 in Springfield, , NJ. 3 ii Jacob2 Roll , born 8 Dec 1761 in , Essex, NJ; died 25 Sep 1834 in , Clark, OH. 4 iii Brooks2 Roll , born 11 Feb 1763; died 19 Jan 1833 in , Westfield, , NJ. 5 iv Hannah2 Roll , born 2 Sep 1766; christened 4 Aug 1809 in Presbyterian Chu, Westfield, Essex, NJ; died 4 Oct 1810. 6 v Baltus2 Roll , born 3 May 1769 in , , NJ; died 22 Feb 1831 in Westfield, Union, NJ. 7 vi Peter2 Roll , born 7 May 1773 in , Essex, NJ; died 14 Mar 1864 in Cincinnati, Hamilton, OH. 8 vii Jephtha2 Roll , born 3 Dec 1776. 9 viii Abraham Brooks2 Rall , born 28 Sep 1776 in , Essex, NJ; died 20 Apr 1864 in , Clark, OH. 10 ix Mary2 Roll , born 12 Mar 1783. Children of Abraham Roll and Catherine "Caty" Vreeland were as follows: 11 i Abigail2 Roll , born 18 Jan 1787; died 21 Dec 1865. 12 ii Isaac2 Roll , born 22 Jun 1789 in Elizabeth, Essex, NJ; died 9 Sep 1861 in Linden Twp, Essex, NJ. 13 iii David2 Roll . 14 iv Jane2 Roll . 15 v Samuel2 Roll , born 15 Jan 1794; died 27 May 1813. No data on Jacob Brooks. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

I just discovered 3 or 4 days ago that I have some ROLL ancestors so have not yet tried researching in the library. I would be interested if anyone can tell me briefly about the original immigrant family to colonial America. Are most of the ROLLs from one original immigrant as were the STOUTENBURGHs (from Pieter STOUTENBURGH, first treasurer of Manhattan), another one of my Dutch Lines? Margaret Scheffler figaro@dreamscape.com

Jan, Thank you for posting all the different ROLL families. Hopefully they will help someone. Happy Thanksgiving all! Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net