I have no idea who this Fredericka Rall was. If someone does, please post to the list. William G. Cutler, History of the State of Kansas. Leavenworth County, Part 20. George Fruebel, merchant tailor, was born in Wertemburg, Germany, in 1816, and learned his present trade there. In 1848 came to America and followed his business in Philadelphia,Pa. In 1859 located here and has actively followed his business since. Married in 1840, Miss Fredericka Rall, who was born in Wertemburg, Germany, in 807. They have no children. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

The following is about Edwin Brooks Rall 1838-1929. (son of David Dunham Rall son Abraham Brooks Roll) William G. Cutler, History of the State of Kansas. Bourbon County, Part 19. Hiattville. This town was named after James M Hiatt, who owned the land upon which the town is located. E. B. Rall was the first settler here in May, 1870. ....The post office was established in May, 1870, and named Pawnee. Soon afterward, the name was changed to Hiattville. E.B.Rall kept the first store in the town, opening it upon moving into the place from his farm one mile south May 1, 1870. D.R. Anderson was the second storekeeper. Shortly afterward, Jacob Dockter opened a blacksmith shop. The first child born in Hiattville was John Hartwell, in 1874. The first marriage was that of Jacob Dockter to Mrs. Queen Hamlin July 9, 1876. No death has yet occurred in the town. Hiattville now contains two general stores, the proprietors of which buy grain, and all kinds of produce; one blacksmith and wagon maker; one dealer in lumber and agricultural implements, and a population of seventy-five. The town is beautifully situated on rolling prairie, and surrounded by a fine, healthful county, well supplied with good water. Ibid. Kingman County Cemeteries. St. John's Catholic (Sec 11 Rochester twp) just east of Zenda. St. John's church was built in 1908 on land donated by E.B. Rall. This is a very new cemetery for earliest graves are marked 1942-1945. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

This is part of Pamela's line. Martha V. Rall dau of Jacob Christopher Columbus Ralls William G. Cutler, History of the State of Kansas. Smith County, Part 2. Daniel H. Fleming, Superintendent of Public Instruction, came to Smith County in April, 1873, and engaged in Agriculture. Was elected County Superintendent in the fall of 1880; re-elected in the fall of 1882. Was born in Moultrie County, ILL., March 17, 1840. Lived in that and Shelby counties, until 1847, and moved with his parents to Davis County, Ia., where he was raised and educated. He began teaching in 1859, and has followed that occupation more or less since. He enlisted in the spring of 1861 in Company G, Second Iowa Volunteer Infantry, and participated in all the battles of his command, Promoted to Second Lieutenant. Mustered out in the spring of 1864, on account of expiration of term of service. After army life he returned home and followed farming, stock-raising and teaching. He was married in the spring of 1865 to Miss Martha V. Rall, of Drakesville, Iowa. They have eight children - Warren E., Willie O., Lillis A., Festus R., Levi R (deceased), Beulah, Fenton and Flora. They are members of the Christian church. He is a member of Anderson Post, No. 47, G.A.R. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Dear Nancy and List Members, Andrew ZEGART, Fytie ZEGART: This from "Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State Of New Jersey." Edited By William Nelson. Volume XXVI. Extracts from American Newspapers, Relating to New Jersey. Vol. VII. 1768-1769. Paterson, N. J.: The Call Printing And Publishing Co. 1904. Page 448. To be sold at public Vendue, On Monday the 5th of June, 1769, near the Premises in Bergen County, at Andrew Zegart's; THE One Fourth Part of the real Estate of Lawrence Van Buskarck, deceased, viz. 84 Acres of Land, which is excellent good Land, 24 Acres and 7-10 of an Acre of Wood Land, near Bergen Point; also about 6 Acres and 7-10 of an Acre of Wood Land, near Bergen Point; also about 6 Acres adjoining Jacob Van Horn, and some Salt Meadow; it is very handy to New-York for marketing, plenty of the very best Oysters at the Front of the Land, and also fine Fishing: The whole is to be sold in separate Parcels, the Vendue to begin at 10 o'Clock; a good Title will be given by JACOB VAN HORN, JANE VAN HORN, ANDREW ZEGART, FYTIE ZEGART, and JOHN LAGRANGE, jun. At 04:02 PM 3/22/00 -0800, you wrote: >Someone sent me the following. > >GMNJ Vol 54, p 31. Bergen Reformed Church Records. 1801 Fytye Seegaert, d >Feb 28, bur Mar 1 at Constapels Hook. > >I'm guessing that GMNJ is Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey? > >Fytye is Fytje van Buskirk m1 Johannes Roll; m2 Andrew Zeegaerd. She was the >mother of Fytje Roll who m Jacob Mersereau. > > >Nancy Lohbrunner >lohbrunner@prodigy.net > > > >==== ROLL Mailing List ==== >Carman-Cross-ROLL-Schumacher-Wahl Genealogy >http://www.gendex.com/users/hwahl > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > Sincerely, William Henry Roll 12643 Hickory Road Blythe, CA 92225-2007, USA Telephone: 760.922.7181 Email address <william.roll@gte.net> The Roll Family Genealogy Windmill <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/> The Sonora Genealogy Windmill <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/sonora/> The Chihuahua Genealogy Windmill <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~windmill/chihuahu/>

Someone sent me the following. GMNJ Vol 54, p 31. Bergen Reformed Church Records. 1801 Fytye Seegaert, d Feb 28, bur Mar 1 at Constapels Hook. I'm guessing that GMNJ is Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey? Fytye is Fytje van Buskirk m1 Johannes Roll; m2 Andrew Zeegaerd. She was the mother of Fytje Roll who m Jacob Mersereau. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Same one. Lewis Robinson Roll (d. 1917 in Sheldon, IL of cancer of the lungs) and Sarah Delilah Kleping. Their children: Francis Wm., Rosmand Gertrude, Charles Earl, Hazel Pearl and Icy Ione. Mail sent directly to gwo.ppp@indy.net in reply ,was returned so hoping she will check out the list. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Lohbrunner <Lohbrunner@prodigy.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: [ROLL] Lewis (Louis) Robinson Roll 1843>OH > In case this has not been checked, sometimes there is military information > on the stone in the cemetery. > > If you know what state Lewis Roll lived in when he entered the war, you can > check at: > > http://www.rootsquest.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/usigs/linksearch.html > > > Is this the Louis R Roll who married Sarah D Klepinger on 11/21/1874 in > Iroquois Co,IL? > > "When" you find this information could you please let Jan Holland or myself > know and we can post it to the ROLL list. > > good luck, > Nancy Lohbrunner > lohbrunner@prodigy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Janis Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> > To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 2:25 PM > Subject: [ROLL] [ROLL-L] Lewis (Louis) Robinson Roll 1843>OH > > > > Hi all- > > I received the following query and hope there is there someone who has > some > > answers for her. Lewis is son of Jacob Wick and Jane McClure Roll. Please > > send copy of reply to list so I can add it to my records. > > Jan in WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: glendora oemler <gwo.ppp@indy.net> > > To: <hollandj@uonline.net> > > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 9:54 AM > > > > > > > Would appreciate any information you can obtain on what Regiment Lewis > > > (Louis) Robinson Roll served in during the Civil War. He was born in > > > Cincinnati, OH. on July 16, 1843. We believe whatever Regiment it was > > > joined in Sherman's March To The Sea. Thank you for any help you can > > > give us! > > > > > > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > Michael VanBaaren's Genealogy Home Page > (including Colonial Dutch Families) > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2075 > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

In case this has not been checked, sometimes there is military information on the stone in the cemetery. If you know what state Lewis Roll lived in when he entered the war, you can check at: http://www.rootsquest.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/usigs/linksearch.html Is this the Louis R Roll who married Sarah D Klepinger on 11/21/1874 in Iroquois Co,IL? "When" you find this information could you please let Jan Holland or myself know and we can post it to the ROLL list. good luck, Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Janis Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: [ROLL] [ROLL-L] Lewis (Louis) Robinson Roll 1843>OH > Hi all- > I received the following query and hope there is there someone who has some > answers for her. Lewis is son of Jacob Wick and Jane McClure Roll. Please > send copy of reply to list so I can add it to my records. > Jan in WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: glendora oemler <gwo.ppp@indy.net> > To: <hollandj@uonline.net> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 9:54 AM > > > > Would appreciate any information you can obtain on what Regiment Lewis > > (Louis) Robinson Roll served in during the Civil War. He was born in > > Cincinnati, OH. on July 16, 1843. We believe whatever Regiment it was > > joined in Sherman's March To The Sea. Thank you for any help you can > > give us! > >

Hi all- I received the following query and hope there is there someone who has some answers for her. Lewis is son of Jacob Wick and Jane McClure Roll. Please send copy of reply to list so I can add it to my records. Jan in WA ----- Original Message ----- From: glendora oemler <gwo.ppp@indy.net> To: <hollandj@uonline.net> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 9:54 AM > Would appreciate any information you can obtain on what Regiment Lewis > (Louis) Robinson Roll served in during the Civil War. He was born in > Cincinnati, OH. on July 16, 1843. We believe whatever Regiment it was > joined in Sherman's March To The Sea. Thank you for any help you can > give us! > >

Thanks for telling me where to for the archives. That was extremely helpful! Sherrel Hailstone

New subscriber's you can search the archives by going to: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl type in ROLL-L click on search type in name or word to be searched click on the year to be searched Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

A quick question: In your letter you mentioned a son of Abraham Roll and Mary Brooks: Moses Rall/Elizabeth Wyatts, their son: Isaac Brooks Rall. Yet in your listing of the children of Abraham Roll and Mary Brooks, you do not have Moses listed. Am I missing something? Your material is fascinating. I'm just getting into it big time! Wow! Sherrel

The following is a message from a new subscriber. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherrel Hailstone <shermusic@nwinfo.net> To: <ROLL-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Subscribe > I have been researching my ancestor Abraham Brooks Rall for some time, but > was just recently contacted by another researcher suggesting that my Rall > did not come from Hesse Germany as was suggested by a distant cousin of > mine, but rather from Amsterdam, and the original spelling was Roll, not > Rall. > > I've been working on this line for some time with no results beyond Abraham. > I am descended from his son David Dunham Rall, and Edwin Brooks Rall. My > grandmother was a Rall. My Rall cousins would be fascinated with any light > anyone can shed on this line. I'm very excited to learn of this and hope I > can get more corroboration as well as to contact some current Ralls in my > line. > > Following is what I have on this line and can provide more information if > you are interested: > > Sherrel Hailstone > > Descendants of Abraham Brooks Rall > > > > 1 Abraham Brooks Rall b: September 28, 1779 in Hesse, Germany > +Elizabeth Dunham b: 1783 in Hesse, Germany m: 1804 in Germany > 2 Deborah Rall b: April 18, 1805 in Germany > 2 Maria Rall b: January 24, 1807 in Germany > 2 David Dunham Rall b: December 12, 1809 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, > OH d: 1895 in Yates Center, KS > +Harriet Raymond b: in Vermont d: 1865 m: 1830 in Dayton, > Montgomery CO, OH > 3 Elizabeth Rall b: March 31, 1831 in Erie, Neosho CO, KS > +Keener > 4 Ed Keener > 3 Amanda Rall b: December 02, 1831 in Erie, Neosho CO, KS > 3 Charles Manford Rall b: 1837 in Macomb, IL > +Wife > 4 Bertha Rall > 4 Harry Rall > 3 [1] Edwin Brooks Rall b: May 02, 1838 in Macomb, IL d: > October 27, 1929 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > +Wife m: 1860 in Macomb, IL > 4 Eddie Rall b: 1861 d: 1885 > *2nd Wife of [1] Edwin Brooks Rall: > +Mary Isabel Harland b: 1845 in Illinois d: April 13, > 1919 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS m: March 30, 1865 in Table Grove, IL > 4 Addie Mae Rall b: February 11, 1866 in Macomb, IL > d: August 22, 1901 in Kingman, KS > +George Washington Romspert b: 1858 in Ohio d: > 1894 in Erie, Neosho CO, KS m: 1884 > 5 Eva Romspert b: September 18, 1885 in > Hiattville, Ks d: November 17, 1954 in Alburquerque, NM > +Chester Livingston Schooley b: December > 10, 1882 in Pretty Prairie, KS d: April 13, 1964 in Alburquerque, NM m: 1906 > 5 Roscoe Romspert b: 1886 in Hiattville, Ks > d: 1894 in Kimball, KS > 4 Lewis Prell Rall b: February 28, 1868 in > Hiattville, Ks d: 1945 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > +Maye Swan Myers m: April 12, 1932 in > Cleveland, OK > 4 Harry Elzie Rall b: February 20, 1871 in > Hiattville, Ks d: July 07, 1931 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > +Irma Estella Hostetter b: April 07, 1875 in > Ansonia, Darke CO, OH d: January 01, 1962 in Golden, CO m: July 04, 1900 in > Ansonia, Darke CO, OH > 5 Estel Lavon Rall b: March 22, 1902 in > Chicago, IL d: January 02, 1995 > +Leonard Vogel b: October 29, 1882 in > Schnabelwaid, Bavaria d: January 1973 in California m: April 04, 1944 in > Denver, Arapahoe, CO > 5 Harland Brooks Rall b: September 15, 1905 > in Milwaukee, WI > +Eva Alfaretta McCartney b: April 06, 1905 > in Oklahoma Territory near Byron m: 1930 > 4 Miram Anna Rall b: March 21, 1874 in Hiattville, > Ks d: March 20, 1966 in La Mirada, CA > +William Edgar Snyder b: March 29, 1869 in > Bement, IL d: March 03, 1936 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS m: November 26, > 1896 in Hiattville, KS > 5 Helen Snyder b: 1897 d: 1897 > 5 Raub Rall Snyder b: February 05, 1900 in > Missouri d: May 18, 1975 > +Florence Anna Windus b: June 03, 1901 in > Wessington Springs, SD d: May 06, 1977 m: August 09, 1924 in Protection, KS > 5 Alton Paul Snyder b: September 24, 1904 in > Kansas City, MO d: May 18, 1968 in Demming, NM > +Frances Lorraine Kosar b: September 02, > 1900 in Stanton Twp. Ottawa, KS m: August 31, 1929 in Cimmaron, Ks > 5 [2] William Edwin Snyder b: January 10, > 1909 in Zenda, KS d: October 10, 1990 in Seattle, King, WA > +Juanita b: July 29, 1912 m: March 08, > 1940 > *2nd Wife of [2] William Edwin Snyder: > +Viola May Jewell b: July 11, 1901 d: July > 21, 1996 in Seattle, King, WA m: October 25, 1957 > 5 [3] Marjorie Pearl Snyder b: November 21, > 1910 in Zenda, KS d: December 22, 1984 in Salton City, CA > +Terrel Zimri Winchell b: January 15, 1907 > in Oklahoma Territory d: 1993 m: October 19, 1930 > *2nd Husband of [3] Marjorie Pearl Snyder: > +Edward Aubrey Whiteside b: October 05, > 1916 in Verdi, KS d: June 29, 1982 in Salton City, CA m: September 06, 1960 > in Montebello, CA > 5 Mary Leota Snyder b: September 27, 1912 in > Protection, KS d: December 18, 1996 in Lubbock, TX > +Hershel Hampton Scott b: August 04, 1907 > in Frederick, OK m: July 07, 1933 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > 5 June Louise Snyder**My mother b: June 01, > 1917 in Protection, KS > +Francis Carl McGriff b: March 08, 1915 in > Mutual, OK d: April 18, 1997 in Yakima, WA m: May 28, 1936 in Enid, OK > 4 [4] Bessie Maud Rall b: October 15, 1877 in > Girard, KS d: August 18, 1958 in LaPorte, IN > +Andrew Reed b: March 06, 1868 in Springfield, IL > d: December 07, 1920 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS m: 1900 in Pratt, KS > 5 Raymond Reed b: January 29, 1904 in Pratt, > KS d: October 29, 1954 in San Antonio, TX > +Frances b: March 30, 1913 in San Antonio, > TX m: September 17, 1931 in Marietta, OK > 5 Philip Reed b: April 23, 1912 in Pratt, KS > +Doris E. Mathews b: March 30, 1913 in St. > Louis, MO d: April 19, 1969 in LaPorte, IN m: May 18, 1935 in St. Louis, MO > 5 Vern Lewis Reed b: October 26, 1914 in > Pratt, KS > +Madeline Joyce Turner b: June 07, 1920 in > Hurdlin, MO m: May 26, 1940 in Wellington, KS > *2nd Husband of [4] Bessie Maud Rall: > +Arthur Gates b: June 19, 1878 in Kansas City, MO > d: August 14, 1952 in Kansas City, MO m: May 29, 1929 in Wichita, Sedgwick > CO, KS > 4 [5] Monroe Harland Rall b: July 04, 1880 in > Hiattville, Ks d: May 1973 in Erie, Neosho CO, KS > +Florence Isabel Osborn b: November 04, 1881 in > Cheney, Ks d: June 29, 1960 in Kingman, KS m: November 04, 1903 in Zenda, KS > 5 Harold Harland Rall b: 1907 in Zenda, KS d: > 1907 in Zenda, KS > 5 Harry Vernon Rall b: April 03, 1909 in > Zenda, KS d: October 28, 1920 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > 5 Kenneth Edwin Rall b: July 14, 1916 in > Isabel, KS > +Elizabeth Frances Nabours b: April 04, > 1917 in Manhattan, KS m: July 14, 1940 in Manhattan, KS > *2nd Wife of [5] Monroe Harland Rall: > +Mildred Hamilton b: July 07, 1883 in Farmington, > MO m: January 10, 1967 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > 4 [9] Frank Delos Rall b: July 15, 1885 in Hepler, > KS d: October 22, 1972 in San Clemente, CA > +Dorothea De Lena Greim b: January 24, 1887 in > Cleveland, KS d: October 21, 1957 in San Clemente, CA m: March 03, 1909 in > Zenda, KS > 5 Dorothy Marie Rall b: May 17, 1910 in > Zenda, KS > +John W. Osborn b: in Mineral Wells, TX > m: May 24, 1934 in Wichita, Sedgwick CO, KS > 5 Ruth Sophia Rall b: December 26, 1912 in > Zenda, KS d: October 1980 > +Albert Benjamin Graber b: September 03, > 1907 in Pretty Prairie, KS m: March 18, 1931 in Kingman, KS > 5 [6] Frank David Rall b: January 15, 1915 in > Zenda, KS > +Ruth Blythe b: December 15, 1916 in > Lincoln, NE/Lincoln, Lancaster Co., NE d: November 13, 1942 in Zenda, KS m: > June 10, 1937 in Zenda, KS > *2nd Wife of [6] Frank David Rall: > +Kathleen Pierce b: May 15, 1921 in > Ashland, IL m: 1944 in Zenda, KS > 5 Frances Isabel Rall b: August 06, 1917 in > Isabel, KS d: January 14, 1996 > +Howard Bramwell b: August 28, 1913 in > Reno County, KS m: August 27, 1935 in Protection, KS > 5 [7] Lois Geraldine Rall b: November 03, > 1919 in Kanopolis, KS > +Harold Franklin Bratches m: 1940 > *2nd Husband of [7] Lois Geraldine Rall: > +Max Eldon Butt b: August 14, 1922 in > Stanberry, MO m: 1948 > 5 [8] Edwin Brooks Rall b: February 15, 1922 > in Isabel, KS > +Barbara Nell Rose m: 1944 > *2nd Wife of [8] Edwin Brooks Rall: > +Dorothy Fair b: November 02, 1922 in > Dearing, KS m: 1946 > *2nd Wife of [9] Frank Delos Rall: > +Estelle Bert Rankin b: 1894 in St. Louis, MO d: > May 05, 1971 in San Clemente, CA m: 1957 > 2 Freelove Rall b: April 04, 1811 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Elila Rall b: March 31, 1813 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Eliza Rall b: April 30, 1815 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Louisa Rall b: October 06, 1817 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Zeporah Rall b: November 20, 1819 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Susannah Rall b: January 27, 1821 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Rosella Rall b: March 31, 1823 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > 2 Amanda Rall b: December 02, 1824 in Dayton, Montgomery CO, OH > >

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I am going to start entering all I had in Martha's Genealogy in Family Tree Maker. Thought it would be easier if anyone has that information already saved so that I could use the GEDCOM file to import it into Family Tree Maker/ Hansel ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Lohbrunner <Lohbrunner@prodigy.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:57 PM Subject: [ROLL] Re: GEDCOM File? > Hi Hansel, > Welcome back. I'm sorry I don't understand what Roll information you are > referring to? The Book you sent out? OR a GEDCOM of our Roll genealogy? > Most genealogical software will prepare a GEDCOM, so all of us should have > that. > > Nancy Lohbrunner > lohbrunner@prodigy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hansel Haycox <hlrmhaycox@earthlink.net> > To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:59 AM > Subject: [ROLL] GEDCOM File? > > > > I seem to remember that some one on the roll list had typed in the Roll > > information in a GED file. Is it still possible to get a copy of that? > > > > Hansel > > > > > > ==== ROLL Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet > http://www.cyndislist.com > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Hi Hansel, Welcome back. I'm sorry I don't understand what Roll information you are referring to? The Book you sent out? OR a GEDCOM of our Roll genealogy? Most genealogical software will prepare a GEDCOM, so all of us should have that. Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Hansel Haycox <hlrmhaycox@earthlink.net> To: <ROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:59 AM Subject: [ROLL] GEDCOM File? > I seem to remember that some one on the roll list had typed in the Roll > information in a GED file. Is it still possible to get a copy of that? > > Hansel >

I seem to remember that some one on the roll list had typed in the Roll information in a GED file. Is it still possible to get a copy of that? Hansel

Greetings one and all. Have been off the list for awhile, after a few computer crashes & other happenings. Hope everyone is well. I had a call from Richard Roll, a descendant of the above couple, and he passed on the following information regarding the couple and their descendants. This refers to Family Chart 108 in the material I put out, and # 73 in Martha's original book. First, Richard says that Theodore, H L Roll, Charles Roll, 2d Charles Roll, and Blanche Roll are not children of Martin & Abigail. He has no idea where the names came from. Second, he says that the 2nd child, listed as Walter Robert Roll is actually named Robert Walter Roll. Robert Walter is Richards gggrandfather. Third, Lily M (Lillian) Roll married a man with the last name of Donnely and had a daughter named Helen. Robert Walter had a daughter by his 1st wife named Clara. He was born in New Burlington OH in a log cabin. By his second wife, he had 5 children: 1)Norma Wilhiaina Roll, b. Aug 31, 1889, d. Nov 15, 1984, Md Armor Wielert. There were no children. 2) Earl Roll, b. 1891, d. 1895 3)Edna Grace Roll, b Jun 3, 1897, d. Jun 1988 Md Elmer Mathis. There were no children. 4)Walter Robert Roll, b. Nov 21, 1906, d. Jan 1980. Never married. 5)Clifford Paul Roll, b. May 25, 1894, d. 1978. He married Marie Amelia Goehring who was b. Jun 17, 1900 and d. Jun 16, 1976. They were married on Feb 27, 1919. There were 2 children: A) Richard Clifford Roll, b. May 12, 1945, Md Donna Rae Blackburn on Aug 14, 1965. They have 2 children: A1) Deborah Rae Roll b. Apr 4, 1967 A2) Richard John Roll b. Feb 5, 1968 B) Robert Dennis Roll, b Sep 12, 1920, Md (1) Margaret Mary Cleary who was b. Aug 30, 1940. They divorced in 1961 and there were no children. He married (2) Ann Robinson on Apr 14, 1962. There are no children to this marriage. Hope this is of interest to someone out there. Hansel L Haycox

Hi All, Hope you are both doing well. Everything is fine here. Molly is finishing her last semester at the U of Wisconsin Madison before graduating in the spring. Mark is finishing his second year of Grad school and is looking forward to earning some money acting in a Shakespeare Festival in Boulder Colorado this summer. My brother Bob got the following responses to a Blue Earth County bulletin board post he made on the Rolls. Thought you might be interested. Looks like even the Roll half-brothers liked to move around based on Joseph Roll's adventures in the Klondike. I am also including the response I posted. Bye for now, Dave Petrie Michael Roll Obituary Posted by BettyB <BBor1212@aol.com> on Tue, 15 Feb 2000, in response to Mankato ROLL family, posted by Bob PETRIE on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 Surname: Found the obituary of Michael Roll. It appeared in the Mankato Free Press December 9, 1895. Michael Roll died Saturday afternoon after an illness of two months, of dropsy of the heart. He was 67 years old. He came to America from Germany with his parents, who located at Lancaster, NY For the last twenty-six years he has been a resident of Mankato, and was at one time an alderman. He belonged to the German Catholic Benevolent Socieey[sic] which will have charge of the funeral at nine o'clock tomorrow morning from the German Catholic Church. Mr. Roll lived on North Broad Street, and for twenty years past he has conducted a blacksmith shop on North Front Street. He was highly respected, and his many friends regret his death. Joseph Roll obituary Posted by BettyB <BBor1212@aol.com> on Tue, 15 Feb 2000, in response to Mankato ROLL family, posted by Bob PETRIE on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 Surname: Obituary for Joseph Roll appeared in the Mankato Review in 1901. (possible brother to Michael Roll) ... Mr. Roll located in Adrian in 1878, starting the first blacksmith shop in the embryo village. He continued this business with a marked degree of success until 1891, when in company with Charles A. Sands, he established the hardware and machinery business so long conducted under the firm name of Roll & Sands. ... Mr. Roll was born at Lancaster, New York, in 1855, and at the time of his death was a little more than 46 years of age. Upon coming west he located at Mankato, where he lived several years previous to his removal to Adrian. In 1881 he was married to Miss Bertha Hein, who together with five children, viz: Mamie, Lucy, Ida, Leo and Marguerite survive him. ... Mr. Roll's fatal illness is traced in the exposure and privations incident to life in Alaska, having gone to the Klondike country in 1898 in search of the elusive golden rainbow. His trip was not wholly unprofitable as far as worldly wealth is concerned, but in the trip he lost that which is more precious than the riches of Croesus--his health. ... In the death of Joseph Roll the community has lost an estimable and enterprising citizen, and his family a doting husband and father. Although never a candidate for public office outside of village polities, he was nevertheless deeply interested and well-versed in political work, and all his life was a consistent and uncompromising Democrat. For several years he was village treasurer, and in every public movement he was a conspicuous figure..." Roll Family History Posted by David Petrie <dapwyn@aol.com> on Wed, 16 Feb 2000, in response to Joseph Roll obituary, posted by BettyB on Tue, 15 Feb 2000 Surname: Roll, Zimmerman, Hillesheim, Unger, Worley, Budde, Karnes Betty, Thanks for the response to my brother Bob's post for information on the Roll family. This Joseph Roll appears to be the half brother of my grandfather, Albert Wendell Roll. Michael Roll, whose obituary you also supplied, was the father of both. Joseph was from his first marriage to Maria Rosa (last name unknown) in 1854(?) and Albert was from his second marriage to Hedwig Zimmerman in 1864(?) in Lancaster, New York. I show that Joseph was a blacksmith and was born in Lancaster, New York but his date of birth was shown as 1857 in my information. He married Bertha in Wisconsin and they had a daughter, Louisa Roll who was born 10 Oct 1883 in Mankato, Minnesota. I have information on Michael's father and mother who are buried in Mankato as well as his brother George Roll and his descendants who remained in New York State.

Jan, On the family of Matthias, I changed all my b & d dates to the ones you sent in Jan 2000. The dates I had came from the 1992, LDS IGI. The following are different generations of Isaac Roll, son of Matthias. Descendants of Isaac Roll 1. Isaac Roll (b.18 May 1797-New Providence,Union,NJ;d.1881) sp: Hannah De Camp (m.19 Sep 1821) 2. Hannah Roll (b.1828;d.1909) sp: Ambrose Blunt Walter (b.1819;m.1846;d.1898) 3. Dora Walter (b.1861;d.1897) sp: Frederick Warren Cram (b.1854;m.1880) 4. Ruth Eloise Cram sp: H. Harry Nerborvig From: "Daughters of the American Revolution. Lineage Book" p 293. #111915. "Isaac Roll (1797-1881) m 1821, Hannah Hawkins (1802-66)." (Son of Matthias Roll m 1785 Mary Rutan.) Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net

Hi Jan: I am also replying to the Roll list in case anyone else is interested. Thank you for sending the data on this family. I have a couple of differences, not from my research, but from others. Death date of John Roll. you - 6 Sep 1819 LDS - 23 Apr 1818 Church of marriage of John Roll and Martha Force. you - First church of Hanover, Morris Co.,NJ Littell (?) - Hanover Presbyterian Church,Morris Co.,NJ Nancy Lohbrunner lohbrunner@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Janis Holland <hollandj@uonline.net> To: Nancy Lohbrunner <LOHBRUNNER@prodigy.net> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 12:01 PM Subject: additions to your Roll's When ever you have time-no rush. Worked for quite a while adding to you outline last night then my computer locked up and had to shut down and wasn't able to save all I had done. Jan Had some I could add to this line. Family Group Report - 14 Feb 2000 - ------------------------------------------------ Family ID 1526 Husband: John ROLL - 2214 - ------------------------------------------------ Birth: 10 Oct 1757 Place: Essex Co., NJ Military: Place: Minuteman & Pvt. in Amer. Rev. Death: 6 Sep 1819 Place: Cincinnati, OH Burial: Place: South Cummingsville Cem Remarks: Moved to OH 1796;1810 HamiltonCo.,OH Mill Cr.Twp. Father: John ROLL Jr. - 809 (1733-1808) Mother: Rachael VAN WINKLE - 810 (1738-1768) - ------------------------------------------------ Marriage: 8 Jun 1783 Place: First Church of Hanover, Morris Co., NJ - ------------------------------------------------ Wife: Martha FORCE - 2633 - ------------------------------------------------ Birth: 1759 Place: Horse Neck, Cauldwell Twp., Essex, NJ - ------------------------------------------------ Children... - ------------------------------------------------ 1. M Child: Matthias ROLL - 2634 Spouse: Mrs. Elizabeth ROLL - 2635 - ------------------------------------------------ 2. F Child: Hannah ROLL - 2618 Spouse: David BRYANT - 2619 - ------------------------------------------------ 3. F Child: Rachel ROLL - 2636 Spouse: Benjamin SWEET - 2637 - ------------------------------------------------ 4. M Child: Isaac ROLL - 2638 Birth: 1787 Military: Place: War of 1812 at Hull's Surrender in Detroit Death: 1833 Remarks: 1830 Census-SeeNotes Spouse: Elizabeth THOMPSON - 2639 Marriage: 1813 Place: Cincinnati, OH Ch: Edward, Phoebe, John, Aaron T, Hannah, Abigail, Cynthia Ellen, James A, Milton Owen. - ------------------------------------------------ 5. F Child: Abigail ROLL - 2640 Spouse: James AYRES - 2242 Marriage: 5 Oct 1815 - ------------------------------------------------ 6. M Child: John ROLL - 2641 - ------------------------------------------------ 7. F Child: Mary (Pilly) ROLL - 2620 Spouse: Jacob SEARING - 2621 Marriage: 22 Apr 1815 Place: Essex Co., NJ - ------------------------------------------------ 8. F Child: Lydia ROLL - 2622 Spouse: Joel MYERS - 2623 Marriage: 15 Dec 1825 - ------------------------------------------------ 9. M Child: Jacob Wick ROLL - 2624 Birth: 6 Feb 1800 Place: Butler Co., OH Death: 5 Jan 1891 Place: Wellsford, KS Occupation: Chairmaker And Owner Of A Farm Remarks: SeeNotes Spouse: Jane MC CLURE - 2625 Marriage: 11 Jan 1827 Ch: Wm Quinter McClure, James, Jacob J, Harvey R, George Washington, Edwin McClure, Richard Eberle, Lewis (Louis) Robinson, Thomas Jefferson, Jane Alice. - ------------------------------------------------ 10. F Child: Martha (Patsy) ROLL - 2626 Birth: 1802 Spouse: Abijah William PRESTON - 2627 Marriage: 23 Sep 1818 Place: Hamilton Co., OH Ch: Mary, John B, William, Isaac R, Martha A, Robert, Lydia, Abigail, Sarah. - ------------------------------------------------ 11. M Child: Abraham ROLL - 2630 Birth: Circa 1800 - ------------------------------------------------ 12. M Child: James ROLL - 2631 Birth: Circa 1806 - ------------------------------------------------ 13. F Child: Charity ROLL - 2632 Birth: Circa 1807 Last Modified: 13 Feb 2000