Kathy, yes i finally figured it out, and it seems that willis wilkins is my great, great grandfather,.....this is a link i never knew the name for, still looking for my gggrandmother wilkins, willis's wife..... i am researching to beat the band..... thanks so much for your help... susan LOVE YEAH ALL....... STOOGZIE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard