Ray, I read your message about the DNA program with great interest and I have a question about it. I do not have any direct male relatives from my Rogers lines that are living. My mom had one brother who died at a very early age and both my mom and her father are deceased. My mom's last request was to be cremated. Like many other elderly people in this area she died after Katrina and burials were totally chaotic hence the cremation. My elusive John(who I flood the list with information or lack of it) is the 7th ggf of my only grandson. I do have one male cousin still living-his mother and my mom's father were sister and brother. Do you know any programs where I could inquire about DNA testing? Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.