I found the info I have on JAMES ROGERS. It is from the " Genealoical Dictionary of Rhode Island" by Austin. It is in the Seattle ( Main) library. I cannot vouch for it, but it does seem to be good info. I have found a few mistakes but they are minor ones.It gives quite a lot of good info on the family. Clyde > From: clyde1927@msn.com > To: rogers@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:56:19 -0700 > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] Joseph M Rogers b 1805, Thomas H Rogers, b1802/3 - need parents, NY, Mich > > > I have some records that give that info. I will try & find them and send them along. By the way I have the book on the JAMES ROGERS of New London,Ct. It has an index that is very hard to trace people. About your Thomas s/o JEREMIAH, I have seen info in records from Exeter I beleive that said ISREAL was the eldest son of hos mother MARY w/o JEREMIAH There was another son BENJAMIN who I had thought was the oldest as he had married & had kids before ISRAEL married. Clyde. > > > From: homealot@earthlink.net > > To: rogers@rootsweb.com > > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:36:27 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] Joseph M Rogers b 1805, Thomas H Rogers, b1802/3 - need parents, NY, Mich > > > > Margaret .... Clyde .... > > > > Now I'm curious to know how "fcoats@sc.rr.com" might have found or been > > implying a connection of Dorothy's two guys to Newport? > > > > Though I'm short on time now for getting back into ROGERS research, I > > believe I recall seeing the mention of some Rogers descendants in (or > > around) the Saratoga County, NY, found in "James Rogers of New London, CT., > > and His Descendants" book by James Swift Rogers. I was told by a > > genealogist located at the New England Historic Genealogical Society to > > search there as my Jeremiah Rogers, b. 1761 in Newport, RI, was probably a > > descendant. However, with all the research I've done, including finding > > that book and running through it, I highly question that connection as Y-DNA > > has connected my husband to the Newport James Rogers line that has paper > > trails from other individuals. I've found no connections in that book other > > than the mention of a Rogers married to a Rogers, but not enough info to > > indicate who the female Rogers line was from. > > > > This is my husband's Rogers line and his seems to fit into the same line > > that Clyde describes his wife's line descending from - though I'm missing > > parents of Jeremiah, born 1761, to solidify where that connection exactly > > fits in. But Clyde and I have speculated in the past with Jeremiah's oldest > > son being named Thomas that he probably fits into that same Westerly Rogers > > family. > > > > Is there any male Rogers descendant from Joseph M Rogers, b. 1805, or Thomas > > H Rogers, b. 1802/1803, that has been Y-DNA tested? > > > > If it is so that Joseph M and Thomas H are from the same Newport line that > > was hinted at by "fcoats@sc.rr.com" e-mail below, then it might prove > > interesting to see if their people in Saratoga County are connected in some > > way to the New London Rogers that also lived in that area. Somewhere in my > > collection of Rogers data is a short newspaper article mentioning where one > > of my Jeremiah's descendants (or spouses, as I can't remember) went to > > Albany for a visit. I had wondered at the time who they might be visiting > > in Albany as so many relatives of my husband's line had remained in the > > Brandon, VT, area where Jeremiah settled in 1806 with his two sons, Thomas > > and George M. - but, then, it might have been a spouse's family that this > > person was visiting. > > > > There is evidence of Jeremiah's son, Thomas, being in Lyons, Wayne County, > > NY, somewhere between 1810 and 1818 or so as his first couple children were > > born there. Genetically, this same line of Jeremiah's that my husband has > > paper trails from relates to a couple people who have managed to take their > > Rogers lines back to the most northwestern part of upstate New York (west of > > Wayne County), before they migrated onto Michigan, one stopping in Canada > > for a short time. > > > > I've always wondered if Dorothy's line of Joseph M Rogers, b. 1805, and > > Thomas H Rogers, b. 1802/3, might be somehow related or connected, but right > > now I have no proof of a connection of the Brandon, Vermont, line of Rogers > > who trail back to Newport to the Saratoga County (or surrounding area) > > Rogers. However, there are three Rogers brothers who settled in Wayne > > County, NY, about 1792 that have been well documented in history books as > > coming from a Rhode Island town not far from Newport, and I have suspected > > that line as trailing further back into the Newport, RI, line. > > > > I might also add that in this book on New London Rogers it is mentioned that > > the New London line is probably the one descending from James Rogers who > > came over on the Increase, at age 20, as exists a copy of "licens to go > > beyond the seas", dated April 15, 1635. This book indicates that the > > Increase James Rogers is probably the New London one rather than the James > > Rogers of Newport who was admitted a freeman in 1640. It also mentions that > > the New London James probably descends from John Rogers, the Martyr, which > > was the same one as the Rogerenes. > > > > Clyde, I'm curious to know how you found the info about our James Rogers > > from Newport probably arriving in Rhode Island about 1610. I've sometimes > > wondered if he came prior to the Mayflower as there are just too many James > > Rogers that existed in the U.S. in earlier 1600's than what is documented on > > ship records. > > > > Carol Rogers > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rogers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rogers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Clyde Downing > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:50 AM > > To: rogers@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] Joseph M Rogers b 1805, Thomas H Rogers, b1802/3 - > > need parents, NY, Mich > > > > > > > > There were several differant ROGERS lines in Saratoga County,NY. I never did > > get them straightened out. I did lots of my research in old land records on > > micro-film I ordered from the LDS. They often gave good info on people. My > > late wifewas descended from JEREMIAH ROGERS s/o THOMAS & SARAH (?) who lived > > in Westerly,Rhode Island in the 1600's. Theywere descendanded from JAMES > > ROGERS who was born ca. 1590 & settled in Rhode Island in ca. 1610. There > > is quite a lot of info on this ROGERS in the Rhode Island Archives. I found > > some good info in the Seattle, Washington Public Library. My wifes line > > descended from JEREMIAH through his son ISRAEL> ISRAEL> STEPHEN>JOHN > > > ORLANDO> MARTHA. Clyde > > > > > From: fcoats@sc.rr.com > > > To: rogers@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 16:53:36 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] Joseph M Rogers b 1805, Thomas H Rogers, b1802/3 > > > - need parents, NY, Mich > > > > > > Rogers from the Newport, RI area moved to the Ann Arbor area. They > > > arrived 15 years after the Mayflower. Clyde Downing is petty expert on > > > that line and you might check out Rootsweb to see what he has sent in > > > the past! And see is you can tie yourself to that line with a little > > > research. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rogers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rogers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Dorothy Hagerty > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:51 PM > > > To: Rogers@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [ROGERS] Joseph M Rogers b 1805, Thomas H Rogers,b1802/3 - > > > need parents, NY, Mich > > > > > > Please, someone must have a clue as to the parents of Joseph M Rogers > > > 1805, and Thomas H Rogers b1802/3--- from Saratoga? LYons Wayne Co, NY, > > > Phelps, Ontario, Co NY. Ann Arbor, Mich, Imlay, Lapeer, Mich > > > > > > JOSEPH M. ROGERS, according to US census,, was born in New York in > > > 1805. He was my g+grandfather. His brother, Thomas H, was born > > > (according to a biography of his son, Luscious) In 1802/3 in Saratoga > > > Springs, New York. Joseph and Thomas moved to Wayne Co.- Ontario Co > > > area New York by 1820. > > > > > > Joseph was married three times -- Sally, Lucy and Julia Sheffield. > > > Joseph and JUlia were married in Lyons, Wayne Co in 1836. Julia was my > > > grandmother. She was the daughter of Christopher Sheffield and Mary > > > Murphy of Saratoga, Co, NY. > > > > > > Joseph bought and sold property in Wayne Co. and Ontario Co. NY. He > > > was > > > a miller and had Three mills in the (Geddesburg ) Ann Arbor, Michigan > > > during the mid to late 1800's, > > > Joseph was in Ann Arbor (Geddesburg, Mich) by 1840. > > > > > > Children of Joseph and Julia Sheffield:Harriet, b. 1842, Theodore b > > > 1844 (my grandfather), Helen b 1846, Clara b1858, Georgiana b 1852, > > > Miles, b 1854 Mark b, 1857 > > > > > > Thomas was a carpenter who specialized in farm equipment - like grain > > > cradles. He lived in Ann Arbor then Imway, Lapeer, Michigan.He married > > > Louisa Tuley of Phelps, Ontario C. Ny > > > > > > In an 1880 census I found Joseph in Placerville, California where he > > > assisted his son William with one of the early grist mills in the area. > > > William bought the flour/grist mill in Los Gatos, CA. > > > Joseph leased a flour mill in NIles, California - now Fremont, > > > California > > > > > > William was a child of Joseph's first or second marriage in Wayne Co > > > NY > > > > > > I do not know where Joseph died, but possibly in Placerville, Fremont > > > Los Gatos - Santa Clara Co. California. He was in his seventies > > > when living in t his area. > > > These brothers could be associated with the Nathan, Lemuel line from > > > Conn.????? > > > They could be associated with the Benjamin Rogers family in Saratoga > > > Joseph's first son was named William - could be Joseph's father was > > > William. > > > Joseph's son, Theodore (my grandfather) was in Burdell Osceola, > > > Michigan in the 1900 census. Living with him was a Frank Rogers who is > > > listed as divorced and a cousin. Frank's father was Lemuel. Wouldn't > > > Lemuel's father be a brother of Joseph's father????? possibility of > > > Nathan??????? > > > Moses Rogers bought land from Julia Sheffield Rogers in Ann Arbor > > > Michigan > > > > > > Some how I feel the older Rogers were brother, cousins - whatever, and > > > just stayed connected. > > > > > > APPRECIATE ANY HELP, SUGGESTIONS - ETC . 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