Thanks for all the information. I don't know where Allen P. Rogers fits in all of this, but I hope to find something. My great-grandmother was Cleopatra Rogers born 1854 in Ala. Her father was Allen P. Rogers found in the 1860 Census of Franklin Co., Ala., born 1804 NC. She was 6 years old at this time. According to census he was married within the year to Elizabeth ????. His first wife ???? His youngest child was 1 year old. Unless census is wrong, which is possible. His children in 1860 are: Margaret, 17; Melonta, 15; William D.,12; Lucinda, 10; John C. 8; Cleopatra, 6; Sarah J., 4; Modenia, 2; Manda B., 1; all born in Ala. In 1865, Price Deverlin Rogers or Deverlin Price Rogers was born so I am guessing that probably the P. in Allen name stands for Price???? I found an 1810 census of Rutherford Co., NC. with an Allen Rogers as head of household and wife with two sons under 10 years of age. One of these sons could be my Allen. I don't know anything else other that this. Thanks for all the information and any additional information will be greatly appreciated. Nancy Carolyn [email protected] wrote: I am just coming into this conversation, and need to study everything that has already been written. But I wonder if I may have a clue to the missing piece to this puzzle of Allen P. Rogers. I am a direct descendant of Joseph Rogers born in about 1694 in Surry County. VA. He and his wife (probably Mary Fargeson, but there is some disagreement on that) had at least 10 children. I am the direct descendent of their son Aaron (b. 1726 in Surry Co., VA d. 1780 in Wake County, NC). Joseph and his wife's youngest son was Michael Rogers (b.1738 d.1797 in Wake County, NC). Michael married Celia Boykin (1745-1820) and had at least 10 children. One of these children was an Allen Rogers. This Allen Rogers lived most of his life in Wake County, NC and is buried at Wake Crossroads (formerly Rogers Crossroads). I don't have a date of birth, but he would have been born before 1804. He was quite well known in North Carolina, serving as a colonel in the War of 1812 and being elected to the state senate. He even entertained French General Lafayette in 1825! He left numerous written records but I cannot document his children. There is Col. Allen Rogers will, August Term 1848, Recorded in book B.B. Pages 384 which names "my two sisters, Rebeca (sic) and Sarah Rogers" as sole heirs. But there is also a will for Allen Rogers Sr. dated Feb. 1, 1839, Wake County. Also, the 1860 will of Benjamin Rogers (husband of Ann D. Rogers) mentions a Henrietta M. Rogers, "daughter of my deceased nephew Allen Rogers" and says she has lived with him for a number of years. All this is to say that I am really wondering if the Allen Rogers born in 1804 is one of these Wake County men, or one of their sons. There are estate papers that list one of these men as the father of eight children, including an "Allen Jr." Or am I just muddying the water??? Mary Rogers Church Raleigh, NC In a message dated 6/11/2007 5:03:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: How interesting! It certainly backs up the information in the novel by Elizabeth Crook. Thanks for taking the time to send us this. Rosalie In a message dated 6/11/2007 3:45:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Carolyn WE have some of the southern's sorted out at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 RECORDS --Scroll down to "C" to biographies of folks involved with Cherokee People. John Rogers Sr. was a white man involved with the Cherokee. His Cherokee 'wife' was Elizabeth Emory. Eliz was the dtr of William Emory and Susannah Grant, dtr of Ludovic Grant and Eugihooti. John Sr. and Elizabeth ran a trading post and ferry at Old Hiwassee town which is just west of the intersection of Hwy 411 and the Hiwassee River in Polk Co TN. This is where it gets a bit complicated. Elizabeth Emory's first husband was trader Robert Dew (Dewes). Their dtr was Jennie. After Elizabeth, the elder John Rogers took up with Jennie Dew/Due. Their child was Talahina/Diana Rogers. John Rogers, Jr. was the son of John Sr by his white wife in Virginia. He was spouse of Jennie Due and father of Talahina Rogers. John Jr is recorded a few times having done business in the early 1800's in McMinn County, TN before1824. Sam Houston was 'adopted' by Chief John Jolly who originally lived in the Tellico village then later on Hiwassee Island at the mouth of the Hiwassee River where it enters the Tennessee River. Sam was originally from Blount County and had spent some time at Tellico with Jolly. He'd apparently encountered Talahina/Diana and had a relationship with her during that time. Jolly's brother was Tahlonteeskee. Tahlonteeskee had left this area in 1809 with a group of several hundred Cherokee which became known as the "Old Settlers". In 1817, John Jolly left with another group of people. He'd learned that Tahlonteeskee had passed and apparently went there as leader of the Old Settlers. He became chief there in Arkansas in 1817. >From 1812 to 1818, Sam Houston was involved with the War of 1812 and was at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. He was Cherokee Indian Agent until he resigned in 1818 at Fort Strother, Alabama. In 1824, John Roger, Jr. left Cherokee Nation east for Arkansas. He is credited for founding Fort Smith in Arkansas. I don't know if Diana was with the 1817 party or the 1824 party. At some point I do know that Sam Houston stayed with his adopted father, John Jolly and Diana Rogers for awhile. He went to Texas to fight in the Mexican wars there after this time. Joyce Gaston Reece www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bryant" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > Joyce, I would be interested in reading what you found about the John > Rogers and Sam Houston. I know that Allen P. Rogers was born in NC and > later settle in Ala. Supposely his family were Native Americans. Nancy > > "Joyce G. Reece" wrote: There has been a lot of > work done on these two John Rogers associated with > Sam Houston. If anyone is interested I'll post the data > > Joyce Gaston Reece > www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > >> >> >> I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a >> historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The >> chief and >> brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept >> contact with >> for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent >> and >> when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my >> brain. >> The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you >> wanted >> to ask a question of her. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if >> any >> are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family >> as >> white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native >> Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find >> anything in >> writing. Nancy >> >> [email protected] wrote: Nancy, >> >> Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they >> were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was >> able to >> locate. >> >> 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN >> 03/17/1805 >> 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? >> 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 >> 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 >> 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 >> 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 >> 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 >> 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 >> 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa >> LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ >> 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 >> 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 >> 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 >> 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS >> 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 >> 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 >> 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 >> 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen >> WILLIAMS >> 10/24/1885 >> 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE >> 12/04/1879 >> >> Greg Rogers >> Red Bluff, CA >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Bryant >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am >> Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers >> >> >> >> Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do >> not >> now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine >> hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest >> daughter >> as 17 years of age. >> Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn >> [email protected] wrote: >> My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers >> amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of >> the >> 700's. >> e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, >> SC- >> ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in >> melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia >> County, >> VA >> ery long. >> Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very >> ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's >> 1790 >> ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, >> Joseph, >> enry, Frances and Jane. >> In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers >> connections >> in >> incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We >> elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. >> Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., >> and >> edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, >> ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one >> or >> two >> ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and >> places--notably >> >> oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). >> According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers >> orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and >> David. >> In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., >> ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from >> John >> ogers >> nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and >> Isaac >> ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five >> years >> arlier. >> In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were >> bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It >> appears >> hat >> t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew >> and >> n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line >> from >> incoln Co., TN). >> How are these Rogers connected? >> Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph >> ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved >> to >> utherford and Bedford Counties. >> Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who >> was >> orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of >> bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). >> Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these >> en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? >> Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or >> eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. 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I am just coming into this conversation, and need to study everything that has already been written. But I wonder if I may have a clue to the missing piece to this puzzle of Allen P. Rogers. I am a direct descendant of Joseph Rogers born in about 1694 in Surry County. VA. He and his wife (probably Mary Fargeson, but there is some disagreement on that) had at least 10 children. I am the direct descendent of their son Aaron (b. 1726 in Surry Co., VA d. 1780 in Wake County, NC). Joseph and his wife's youngest son was Michael Rogers (b.1738 d.1797 in Wake County, NC). Michael married Celia Boykin (1745-1820) and had at least 10 children. One of these children was an Allen Rogers. This Allen Rogers lived most of his life in Wake County, NC and is buried at Wake Crossroads (formerly Rogers Crossroads). I don't have a date of birth, but he would have been born before 1804. He was quite well known in North Carolina, serving as a colonel in the War of 1812 and being elected to the state senate. He even entertained French General Lafayette in 1825! He left numerous written records but I cannot document his children. There is Col. Allen Rogers will, August Term 1848, Recorded in book B.B. Pages 384 which names "my two sisters, Rebeca (sic) and Sarah Rogers" as sole heirs. But there is also a will for Allen Rogers Sr. dated Feb. 1, 1839, Wake County. Also, the 1860 will of Benjamin Rogers (husband of Ann D. Rogers) mentions a Henrietta M. Rogers, "daughter of my deceased nephew Allen Rogers" and says she has lived with him for a number of years. All this is to say that I am really wondering if the Allen Rogers born in 1804 is one of these Wake County men, or one of their sons. There are estate papers that list one of these men as the father of eight children, including an "Allen Jr." Or am I just muddying the water??? Mary Rogers Church Raleigh, NC In a message dated 6/11/2007 5:03:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: How interesting! It certainly backs up the information in the novel by Elizabeth Crook. Thanks for taking the time to send us this. Rosalie In a message dated 6/11/2007 3:45:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Carolyn WE have some of the southern's sorted out at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 RECORDS --Scroll down to "C" to biographies of folks involved with Cherokee People. John Rogers Sr. was a white man involved with the Cherokee. His Cherokee 'wife' was Elizabeth Emory. Eliz was the dtr of William Emory and Susannah Grant, dtr of Ludovic Grant and Eugihooti. John Sr. and Elizabeth ran a trading post and ferry at Old Hiwassee town which is just west of the intersection of Hwy 411 and the Hiwassee River in Polk Co TN. This is where it gets a bit complicated. Elizabeth Emory's first husband was trader Robert Dew (Dewes). Their dtr was Jennie. After Elizabeth, the elder John Rogers took up with Jennie Dew/Due. Their child was Talahina/Diana Rogers. John Rogers, Jr. was the son of John Sr by his white wife in Virginia. He was spouse of Jennie Due and father of Talahina Rogers. John Jr is recorded a few times having done business in the early 1800's in McMinn County, TN before1824. Sam Houston was 'adopted' by Chief John Jolly who originally lived in the Tellico village then later on Hiwassee Island at the mouth of the Hiwassee River where it enters the Tennessee River. Sam was originally from Blount County and had spent some time at Tellico with Jolly. He'd apparently encountered Talahina/Diana and had a relationship with her during that time. Jolly's brother was Tahlonteeskee. Tahlonteeskee had left this area in 1809 with a group of several hundred Cherokee which became known as the "Old Settlers". In 1817, John Jolly left with another group of people. He'd learned that Tahlonteeskee had passed and apparently went there as leader of the Old Settlers. He became chief there in Arkansas in 1817. >From 1812 to 1818, Sam Houston was involved with the War of 1812 and was at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. He was Cherokee Indian Agent until he resigned in 1818 at Fort Strother, Alabama. In 1824, John Roger, Jr. left Cherokee Nation east for Arkansas. He is credited for founding Fort Smith in Arkansas. I don't know if Diana was with the 1817 party or the 1824 party. At some point I do know that Sam Houston stayed with his adopted father, John Jolly and Diana Rogers for awhile. He went to Texas to fight in the Mexican wars there after this time. Joyce Gaston Reece www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bryant" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > Joyce, I would be interested in reading what you found about the John > Rogers and Sam Houston. I know that Allen P. Rogers was born in NC and > later settle in Ala. Supposely his family were Native Americans. Nancy > > "Joyce G. Reece" <[email protected]> wrote: There has been a lot of > work done on these two John Rogers associated with > Sam Houston. If anyone is interested I'll post the data > > Joyce Gaston Reece > www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > >> >> >> I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a >> historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The >> chief and >> brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept >> contact with >> for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent >> and >> when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my >> brain. >> The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you >> wanted >> to ask a question of her. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if >> any >> are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family >> as >> white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native >> Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find >> anything in >> writing. Nancy >> >> [email protected] wrote: Nancy, >> >> Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they >> were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was >> able to >> locate. >> >> 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN >> 03/17/1805 >> 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? >> 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 >> 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 >> 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 >> 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 >> 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 >> 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 >> 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa >> LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ >> 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 >> 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 >> 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 >> 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS >> 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 >> 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 >> 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 >> 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen >> WILLIAMS >> 10/24/1885 >> 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE >> 12/04/1879 >> >> Greg Rogers >> Red Bluff, CA >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Bryant >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am >> Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers >> >> >> >> Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do >> not >> now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine >> hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest >> daughter >> as 17 years of age. >> Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn >> [email protected] wrote: >> My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers >> amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of >> the >> 700's. >> e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, >> SC- >> ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in >> melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia >> County, >> VA >> ery long. >> Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very >> ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's >> 1790 >> ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, >> Joseph, >> enry, Frances and Jane. >> In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers >> connections >> in >> incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We >> elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. >> Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., >> and >> edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, >> ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one >> or >> two >> ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and >> places--notably >> >> oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). >> According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers >> orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and >> David. >> In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., >> ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from >> John >> ogers >> nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and >> Isaac >> ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five >> years >> arlier. >> In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were >> bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It >> appears >> hat >> t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew >> and >> n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line >> from >> incoln Co., TN). >> How are these Rogers connected? >> Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph >> ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved >> to >> utherford and Bedford Counties. >> Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who >> was >> orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of >> bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). >> Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these >> en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? >> Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or >> eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be >> very >> appy >> o share information. >> Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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How interesting! It certainly backs up the information in the novel by Elizabeth Crook. Thanks for taking the time to send us this. Rosalie In a message dated 6/11/2007 3:45:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Carolyn WE have some of the southern's sorted out at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 RECORDS --Scroll down to "C" to biographies of folks involved with Cherokee People. John Rogers Sr. was a white man involved with the Cherokee. His Cherokee 'wife' was Elizabeth Emory. Eliz was the dtr of William Emory and Susannah Grant, dtr of Ludovic Grant and Eugihooti. John Sr. and Elizabeth ran a trading post and ferry at Old Hiwassee town which is just west of the intersection of Hwy 411 and the Hiwassee River in Polk Co TN. This is where it gets a bit complicated. Elizabeth Emory's first husband was trader Robert Dew (Dewes). Their dtr was Jennie. After Elizabeth, the elder John Rogers took up with Jennie Dew/Due. Their child was Talahina/Diana Rogers. John Rogers, Jr. was the son of John Sr by his white wife in Virginia. He was spouse of Jennie Due and father of Talahina Rogers. John Jr is recorded a few times having done business in the early 1800's in McMinn County, TN before1824. Sam Houston was 'adopted' by Chief John Jolly who originally lived in the Tellico village then later on Hiwassee Island at the mouth of the Hiwassee River where it enters the Tennessee River. Sam was originally from Blount County and had spent some time at Tellico with Jolly. He'd apparently encountered Talahina/Diana and had a relationship with her during that time. Jolly's brother was Tahlonteeskee. Tahlonteeskee had left this area in 1809 with a group of several hundred Cherokee which became known as the "Old Settlers". In 1817, John Jolly left with another group of people. He'd learned that Tahlonteeskee had passed and apparently went there as leader of the Old Settlers. He became chief there in Arkansas in 1817. >From 1812 to 1818, Sam Houston was involved with the War of 1812 and was at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. He was Cherokee Indian Agent until he resigned in 1818 at Fort Strother, Alabama. In 1824, John Roger, Jr. left Cherokee Nation east for Arkansas. He is credited for founding Fort Smith in Arkansas. I don't know if Diana was with the 1817 party or the 1824 party. At some point I do know that Sam Houston stayed with his adopted father, John Jolly and Diana Rogers for awhile. He went to Texas to fight in the Mexican wars there after this time. Joyce Gaston Reece www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bryant" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > Joyce, I would be interested in reading what you found about the John > Rogers and Sam Houston. I know that Allen P. Rogers was born in NC and > later settle in Ala. Supposely his family were Native Americans. Nancy > > "Joyce G. Reece" <[email protected]> wrote: There has been a lot of > work done on these two John Rogers associated with > Sam Houston. If anyone is interested I'll post the data > > Joyce Gaston Reece > www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > >> >> >> I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a >> historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The >> chief and >> brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept >> contact with >> for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent >> and >> when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my >> brain. >> The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you >> wanted >> to ask a question of her. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if >> any >> are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family >> as >> white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native >> Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find >> anything in >> writing. Nancy >> >> [email protected] wrote: Nancy, >> >> Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they >> were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was >> able to >> locate. >> >> 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN >> 03/17/1805 >> 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? >> 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 >> 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 >> 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 >> 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 >> 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 >> 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 >> 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa >> LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ >> 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 >> 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 >> 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 >> 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS >> 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 >> 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 >> 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 >> 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen >> WILLIAMS >> 10/24/1885 >> 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE >> 12/04/1879 >> >> Greg Rogers >> Red Bluff, CA >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Bryant >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am >> Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers >> >> >> >> Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do >> not >> now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine >> hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest >> daughter >> as 17 years of age. >> Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn >> [email protected] wrote: >> My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers >> amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of >> the >> 700's. >> e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, >> SC- >> ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in >> melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia >> County, >> VA >> ery long. >> Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very >> ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's >> 1790 >> ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, >> Joseph, >> enry, Frances and Jane. >> In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers >> connections >> in >> incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We >> elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. >> Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., >> and >> edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, >> ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one >> or >> two >> ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and >> places--notably >> >> oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). >> According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers >> orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and >> David. >> In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., >> ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from >> John >> ogers >> nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and >> Isaac >> ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five >> years >> arlier. >> In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were >> bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It >> appears >> hat >> t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew >> and >> n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line >> from >> incoln Co., TN). >> How are these Rogers connected? >> Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph >> ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved >> to >> utherford and Bedford Counties. >> Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who >> was >> orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of >> bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). >> Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these >> en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? >> Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or >> eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be >> very >> appy >> o share information. >> Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Carolyn WE have some of the southern's sorted out at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 RECORDS --Scroll down to "C" to biographies of folks involved with Cherokee People. John Rogers Sr. was a white man involved with the Cherokee. His Cherokee 'wife' was Elizabeth Emory. Eliz was the dtr of William Emory and Susannah Grant, dtr of Ludovic Grant and Eugihooti. John Sr. and Elizabeth ran a trading post and ferry at Old Hiwassee town which is just west of the intersection of Hwy 411 and the Hiwassee River in Polk Co TN. This is where it gets a bit complicated. Elizabeth Emory's first husband was trader Robert Dew (Dewes). Their dtr was Jennie. After Elizabeth, the elder John Rogers took up with Jennie Dew/Due. Their child was Talahina/Diana Rogers. John Rogers, Jr. was the son of John Sr by his white wife in Virginia. He was spouse of Jennie Due and father of Talahina Rogers. John Jr is recorded a few times having done business in the early 1800's in McMinn County, TN before1824. Sam Houston was 'adopted' by Chief John Jolly who originally lived in the Tellico village then later on Hiwassee Island at the mouth of the Hiwassee River where it enters the Tennessee River. Sam was originally from Blount County and had spent some time at Tellico with Jolly. He'd apparently encountered Talahina/Diana and had a relationship with her during that time. Jolly's brother was Tahlonteeskee. Tahlonteeskee had left this area in 1809 with a group of several hundred Cherokee which became known as the "Old Settlers". In 1817, John Jolly left with another group of people. He'd learned that Tahlonteeskee had passed and apparently went there as leader of the Old Settlers. He became chief there in Arkansas in 1817. >From 1812 to 1818, Sam Houston was involved with the War of 1812 and was at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. He was Cherokee Indian Agent until he resigned in 1818 at Fort Strother, Alabama. In 1824, John Roger, Jr. left Cherokee Nation east for Arkansas. He is credited for founding Fort Smith in Arkansas. I don't know if Diana was with the 1817 party or the 1824 party. At some point I do know that Sam Houston stayed with his adopted father, John Jolly and Diana Rogers for awhile. He went to Texas to fight in the Mexican wars there after this time. Joyce Gaston Reece www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bryant" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > Joyce, I would be interested in reading what you found about the John > Rogers and Sam Houston. I know that Allen P. Rogers was born in NC and > later settle in Ala. Supposely his family were Native Americans. Nancy > > "Joyce G. Reece" <[email protected]> wrote: There has been a lot of > work done on these two John Rogers associated with > Sam Houston. If anyone is interested I'll post the data > > Joyce Gaston Reece > www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > >> >> >> I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a >> historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The >> chief and >> brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept >> contact with >> for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent >> and >> when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my >> brain. >> The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you >> wanted >> to ask a question of her. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if >> any >> are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family >> as >> white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native >> Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find >> anything in >> writing. Nancy >> >> [email protected] wrote: Nancy, >> >> Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they >> were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was >> able to >> locate. >> >> 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN >> 03/17/1805 >> 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? >> 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 >> 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 >> 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 >> 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 >> 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 >> 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 >> 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa >> LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ >> 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 >> 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 >> 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 >> 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS >> 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 >> 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 >> 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 >> 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen >> WILLIAMS >> 10/24/1885 >> 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE >> 12/04/1879 >> >> Greg Rogers >> Red Bluff, CA >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Bryant >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am >> Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers >> >> >> >> Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do >> not >> now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine >> hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest >> daughter >> as 17 years of age. >> Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn >> [email protected] wrote: >> My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers >> amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of >> the >> 700's. >> e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, >> SC- >> ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in >> melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia >> County, >> VA >> ery long. >> Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very >> ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's >> 1790 >> ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, >> Joseph, >> enry, Frances and Jane. >> In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers >> connections >> in >> incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We >> elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. >> Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., >> and >> edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, >> ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one >> or >> two >> ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and >> places--notably >> >> oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). >> According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers >> orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and >> David. >> In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., >> ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from >> John >> ogers >> nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and >> Isaac >> ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five >> years >> arlier. >> In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were >> bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It >> appears >> hat >> t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew >> and >> n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line >> from >> incoln Co., TN). >> How are these Rogers connected? >> Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph >> ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved >> to >> utherford and Bedford Counties. >> Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who >> was >> orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of >> bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). >> Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these >> en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? >> Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or >> eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be >> very >> appy >> o share information. >> Joyce Phillips >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 >> 1:39 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Yahoo! 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Hi Joyce, I have been reading all the information about Rogers' families, and land purchases in NC. My late husband, Ralph Rogers Wheeler, b. 11/1/1917, d. 1/27/2004, was gggrandson of Thomas Rogers, b. ca 1770 in Bertie Co, NC, m. Jane Hampton in Bertie Co, NC. Thomas Rogers was in 1790 U.S. Census, for Spartenburg, SC, as was Robert Rogers, possibly a brother, then to Bedford Co, TN, probably after 1806, with known children Nancy, Richard Hampton, Thomas, William, and Minnie. While in Bedford Co, Nancy married John McGuire, and they moved to Fayette or Tuscaloosa Co, AL with Thomas and the rest of the family. They were already in AL in 1819 when it became a state. I have lots of information about Rogers' families, most which I got on the internet, and can not authenticate most of it. I have some I received from you several years ago. I'll have to read back through all the information and see is there is any mention of connection to Joseph Rogers. There was information about Robert and Thomas \, brothers, both born in Bertie Co, being mentioned in a will and about owning land on Bear Creek. I'll have to locate it again. Elsie Wheeler [email protected]

Linda & Joyce, I've emailed with Linda a couple of years ago about my husbands' Rogers line.? We couldn't come up with a connection, but thought I'd send anyway.? Who knows when someone connected to the family might have joined and have some insight as to if this information is correct or not. Nathaniel Rogers was born July 1767 in Kent Co., Maryland, married Selah/Celey.? I have the Revolutionary War papers for him. Children: 1. Elijah Rogers, b. abt. 1805 in Union District, SC, married Mary Green, b. between 1806-1810 2. John Rogers, b. bet. 1788-1791 in SC, d. after 1870, married Jane ?, b. bet. 1800-1805 in?? ??? ??? Georgia, d. after 1870 3. Nathaniel Rogers, b. abt. 1808 4. Elizabeth Rogers, no dates, married a Bogan 5. Abigail Rogers, no dates, married a Steen 6. Nancy Rogers, no dates, married a Reeder All 3 of the daughters supposedly married men from the Union District area, not sure about Nathaniel. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

There has been a lot of work done on these two John Rogers associated with Sam Houston. If anyone is interested I'll post the data Joyce Gaston Reece www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > > I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a > historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The > chief and > brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept > contact with > for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent > and > when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my > brain. > The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you > wanted > to ask a question of her. > > > > > In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if > any > are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family > as > white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native > Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find > anything in > writing. Nancy > > [email protected] wrote: Nancy, > > Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they > were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was > able to > locate. > > 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN > 03/17/1805 > 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? > 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 > 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 > 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 > 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 > 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 > 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 > 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa > LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ > 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 > 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 > 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 > 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS > 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 > 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 > 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 > 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen > WILLIAMS > 10/24/1885 > 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE > 12/04/1879 > > Greg Rogers > Red Bluff, CA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carolyn Bryant > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > > > Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do > not > now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine > hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest > daughter > as 17 years of age. > Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn > [email protected] wrote: > My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers > amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of > the > 700's. > e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, > SC- > ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in > melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia > County, > VA > ery long. > Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very > ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's > 1790 > ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, > Joseph, > enry, Frances and Jane. > In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers > connections > in > incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We > elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. > Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., > and > edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, > ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one > or > two > ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and > places--notably > > oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). > According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers > orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and > David. > In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., > ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from > John > ogers > nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and > Isaac > ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five > years > arlier. > In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were > bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It > appears > hat > t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew > and > n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from > incoln Co., TN). > How are these Rogers connected? > Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph > ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved > to > utherford and Bedford Counties. > Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who > was > orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of > bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). > Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these > en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? > Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or > eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be > very > appy > o share information. > Joyce Phillips > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 > 1:39 PM > >

Joyce, I would be interested in reading what you found about the John Rogers and Sam Houston. I know that Allen P. Rogers was born in NC and later settle in Ala. Supposely his family were Native Americans. Nancy "Joyce G. Reece" <[email protected]> wrote: There has been a lot of work done on these two John Rogers associated with Sam Houston. If anyone is interested I'll post the data Joyce Gaston Reece www.tennesseegenealogyresearch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > > I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a > historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The > chief and > brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept > contact with > for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent > and > when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my > brain. > The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you > wanted > to ask a question of her. > > > > > In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if > any > are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family > as > white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native > Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find > anything in > writing. Nancy > > [email protected] wrote: Nancy, > > Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they > were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was > able to > locate. > > 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN > 03/17/1805 > 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? > 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 > 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 > 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 > 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 > 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 > 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 > 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa > LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ > 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 > 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 > 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 > 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS > 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 > 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 > 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 > 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen > WILLIAMS > 10/24/1885 > 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE > 12/04/1879 > > Greg Rogers > Red Bluff, CA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carolyn Bryant > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am > Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers > > > > Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do > not > now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine > hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest > daughter > as 17 years of age. > Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn > [email protected] wrote: > My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers > amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of > the > 700's. > e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, > SC- > ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in > melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia > County, > VA > ery long. > Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very > ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's > 1790 > ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, > Joseph, > enry, Frances and Jane. > In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers > connections > in > incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We > elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. > Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., > and > edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, > ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one > or > two > ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and > places--notably > > oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). > According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers > orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and > David. > In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., > ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from > John > ogers > nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and > Isaac > ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five > years > arlier. > In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were > bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It > appears > hat > t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew > and > n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from > incoln Co., TN). > How are these Rogers connected? > Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph > ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved > to > utherford and Bedford Counties. > Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who > was > orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of > bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). > Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these > en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? > Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or > eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be > very > appy > o share information. > Joyce Phillips > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 > 1:39 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

I don't know if this is would be any help. However, I just read a historical novel called The Raven and His Bride about Sam Houston. The chief and brothers of the Cherokee tribe he lived with for many years and kept contact with for this lifetime were of the surname Rogers. I am a Rogers descendent and when I read this in the book it surprised me and embedded itself in my brain. The book is by Elizabeth Crook of Austin. She has a website if you wanted to ask a question of her. In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:08:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if any are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family as white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find anything in writing. Nancy [email protected] wrote: Nancy, Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was able to locate. 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN 03/17/1805 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen WILLIAMS 10/24/1885 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE 12/04/1879 Greg Rogers Red Bluff, CA -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Bryant To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do not now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest daughter as 17 years of age. Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn [email protected] wrote: My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of the 700's. e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, SC- ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia County, VA ery long. Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's 1790 ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, Joseph, enry, Frances and Jane. In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers connections in incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., and edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one or two ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and places--notably oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and David. In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from John ogers nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and Isaac ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five years arlier. In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It appears hat t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew and n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from incoln Co., TN). How are these Rogers connected? Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved to utherford and Bedford Counties. Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who was orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be very appy o share information. Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Joyce, I have nothing on your line...unless it includes a JEFFERSON C. ROGERS, born in 1820 somewhere in TN. He was in Bledsoe Co. in 1850, married to a NANCY ADALINE CARDER. Do any of these names figure in your line? I have no parents for Jefferson, but was told it was William Rogers. Jay Rogers in San Antonio TX ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Nancy, Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe.  Not sure where they were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was able to locate. 1.             Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN 03/17/1805 2.             Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? 3.             Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 4.             Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 5.             Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 6.             Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 7.             Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 8.             Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 9.             William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ 10.           Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 11.           Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 12.           David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 13.           unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS                                 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870                                 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 14.           Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 15.           Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen WILLIAMS 10/24/1885 16.           Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE 12/04/1879 Greg Rogers Red Bluff, CA -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Bryant <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do not now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest daughter as 17 years of age. Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn [email protected] wrote: My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of the 700's. e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, SC- ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia County, VA ery long. Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's 1790 ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, Joseph, enry, Frances and Jane. In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers connections in incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., and edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one or two ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and places--notably oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and David. In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from John ogers nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and Isaac ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five years arlier. In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It appears hat t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew and n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from incoln Co., TN). How are these Rogers connected? Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved to utherford and Bedford Counties. Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who was orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be very appy o share information. 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Thanks for reply. These could possible be cousins. Would you know if any are Native Americans?? Census I have on Allen P. Rogers list his family as white, but through the grapevine so to speak, they were possibly Native Americans. I have been searching for this connection and cannot find anything in writing. Nancy [email protected] wrote: Nancy, Here is a listing of my Rogers from that timeframe. Not sure where they were born but this information is retrieved from the family bible I was able to locate. 1. Joseph ROGERS b. 09/15/1783 d. 02/23/1865 m. Margaret MORGAN 03/17/1805 2. Rachel Rogers b. 05/25/1805 m. John W______? 3. Thomas Rogers b. 10/07/1807 4. Harvey Rogers b. 04/13/1808 5. Yancey Rogers b. 04/13/1809 6. Elizabeth Rogers b. 02/09/1810 7. Samuel Rogers b. 11/05/1817 8. Nancy Rogers b. 09/13/1819 9. William Rogers b. 07/17/1819 d.06/11/1853 m. Melissa LIEURANCE ...02/20/18__ 10. Mary Ann Rogers b.06/05/1821 d.08/27/1846 11. Josiah Rogers b. 06/17/1823 d. 02/27/1840 12. David Rogers b. 12/04/1826 d. 12/18/1897 13. unknown Rogers b.??? d. ??? m. Marion WELLS 1. Son Chester Wells b.08/__/1870 2. Son Persis Wells b. 08/__/1871 14. Edgar Olonzo Rogers b. 03/13/1855 15. Wallace Lilbern Rogers b. 12/22/1857 m. Harriet Ellen WILLIAMS 10/24/1885 16. Lota Ann Rogers b. 02/22/1860 d. ??? m. Daniel F. WHITE 12/04/1879 Greg Rogers Red Bluff, CA -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Bryant To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 7:14 am Subject: Re: [ROGERS] John & Joseph Rogers Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do not now anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine hildren living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest daughter as 17 years of age. Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn [email protected] wrote: My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers amilies of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of the 700's. e descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, SC- ccording to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in melia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia County, VA ery long. Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very ommon one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's 1790 ill in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, Joseph, enry, Frances and Jane. In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers connections in incoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We elieve some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., and edford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, ayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one or two ther Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and places--notably oseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers orking on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and David. In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., ississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from John ogers nd Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and Isaac ogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five years arlier. In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were bsolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It appears hat t least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew and n the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from incoln Co., TN). How are these Rogers connected? Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph ogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved to utherford and Bedford Counties. Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who was orn in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of bsolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these en--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or eparating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be very appy o share information. 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Allen P. Rogers born abt. 1804 in NC settled in Franklin Co., Ala. I do not know anything about his parents or brother or sisters, etc. He had nine children living with him in the 1860 census of Franklin Co. The oldest daughter was 17 years of age. Any help appreciated. Nancy Carolyn [email protected] wrote: My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers families of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of the 1700's. We descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, SC- according to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in Amelia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia County, VA very long. Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very common one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's 1790 will in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, Joseph, Henry, Frances and Jane. In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers connections in Lincoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We believe some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., and Bedford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, Fayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one or two other Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and places--notably a Joseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers working on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and David. In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., Mississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from John Rogers and Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and Isaac Rogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five years earlier. In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were Absolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It appears that at least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew and in the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from Lincoln Co., TN). How are these Rogers connected? Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph Rogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved to Rutherford and Bedford Counties. Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who was born in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of Absolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these men--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or separating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be very happy to share information. Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

Joyce, I have hit a brick wall on my Rodger's (also spelled "Rogers") line. James J. Rodgers was born in South Carolina in 1817. About 1841, he married Rachel Sims in Laurens County, SC. Three of their children were born in Laurens County: Drue Sims (yes, spelled this way and sometimes "Drury"); Mary E.; and James William. They moved to Pontotoc County, MS in between 1847-1848 with a church group where the rest of their children were born: Richard Taylor (my ggrandfather) b. 1848; Sarah M.; Caroline Matelda; Rachel C.; Phoebe P.; Nancy F.; and Drucilla C. were the other children. James J. died in the Civil War in 1865. Richard Taylor married Margaret Hill and some of her brothers and James William were in Milam County, Texas in the 1900 census having arrived there between 1891 and 1900. The rest of the Rodgers amd Hill families stayed in Mississippi. I have lots of information on Rachel Sims' line, but I have not been able to connect any of the Rodgers in South Carolina with my James J. You have mentioned "Richard Rogers" in some of your e-mails and it caught my attention because I've always wondered where the name"Richard" came from. There are lots of James and Williams but not that many Richards. I'd appreciate your input if you happen to see a link to my James J. Mary Lou Hall [email protected] wrote: In the 1880 census the question was asked where the parents were born. We would like to hear from anyone who is researching male Rogers and their male Rogers who was born in South Carolina. Our Rogers lines have two definite Rogers who were born in South Carolina. David Rogers, born ca 1775 and James Alfred Rogers, born ca 1777. We have three possible Rogers who were born in South Carolina; John Rogers, William Rogers, and Joseph Rogers. The last three might have been born in the 1780;s in South Carolina. All five of these men are definite or possible sons of Joseph Rogers(born 1750 Amelia County-VA and died 1830's Bedford County, TN. Known Rogers names in our family include: John, Joseph, James, Alfred, William, Thomas, Richard and Henry. We would like to compare notes if you have any Rogers ancestors coming out of South Carolina in the late 1770s. Linda Rogers Grinnell & Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CCayemberg Surnames: Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.rogers/10033/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Green Bay Press Gazette, Green Bay, WI, June 05, 2007 William R. Rogers, 65, Green Bay, died at his home on May 31, 2007. Private services were held at MALCORE Funeral Home (EAST) & Crematory, 432-5579. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In the 1880 census the question was asked where the parents were born. We would like to hear from anyone who is researching male Rogers and their male Rogers who was born in South Carolina. Our Rogers lines have two definite Rogers who were born in South Carolina. David Rogers, born ca 1775 and James Alfred Rogers, born ca 1777. We have three possible Rogers who were born in South Carolina; John Rogers, William Rogers, and Joseph Rogers. The last three might have been born in the 1780;s in South Carolina. All five of these men are definite or possible sons of Joseph Rogers(born 1750 Amelia County-VA and died 1830's Bedford County, TN. Known Rogers names in our family include: John, Joseph, James, Alfred, William, Thomas, Richard and Henry. We would like to compare notes if you have any Rogers ancestors coming out of South Carolina in the late 1770s. Linda Rogers Grinnell & Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My cousins and I are attempting to separate the many different Rogers families of colonial Virginia during the time period of the first half of the 1700's. We descend from John Rogers (born abt 1720/25 and died 1790 in Fairfield, SC- according to his son Joseph's Rev. War pension application) John was in Amelia between 1748 and 1750. We do not believe he stayed in Amelia County, VA very long. Complicating this search is the fact that the name John Rogers was a very common one during the 1700's especially in Virginia. According to John's 1790 will in Fairfield, his children were: William, Richard, Thomas, James, Joseph, Henry, Frances and Jane. In addition we are searching for anyone with Rogers or Rodgers connections in Lincoln Co., TN, Bedford Co., Rutherford Co., TN, or Madison Co., AL. We believe some of our Rogers may have lived in some or all of these places. Our ancestor, Joseph Rogers, originated in Tennessee in Rutherford Co., and Bedford Co. (although he had also lived in Amelia Co., VA, Fairfield, SC, Fayette Co., KY, and Oglethorpe Co., GA. However, there are at least one or two other Joseph Rogers floating around during this time period and places--notably a Joseph Rogers who was born in 1788 in SC. (He married Nancy Mullings). According to early records, In Rutherford County, there were five Rogers working on the Barfield Road in 1808: James, Joseph, John, Isaac, and David. In 1813, a person was sent from Rutherford Co., TN to Madison Co., Mississippi Territory (today Madison Co., AL) to obtain a deposition from John Rogers and Isaac Rogers at the house of John Rogers. I believe this John and Isaac Rogers probably were 2 of the 5 working on the Barfield Road in RC five years earlier. In the 1820 Lincoln Co., TN census some of the Rogers enumerated were Absolom, Isaac, John H., Jones, Joseph, Spencer, and William Rogers. It appears that at least some of these men were involved in the above road-building crew and in the court deposition in Madison Co., AL (just across the state line from Lincoln Co., TN). How are these Rogers connected? Some believe that they could be children or grandchildren of the Joseph Rogers who was born in 1750 in Amelia Co., Va and in his later years moved to Rutherford and Bedford Counties. Others believe that all these Rogers are related to the Joseph Rogers who was born in 1788. One person states that Isaac Rogers may be the father of Absolam and Joseph Rogers (born 1788). Or could the Joseph Rogers (born 1750) be the father of many of these men--especially of Absalom, John, and Joseph (born 1788)? Any direction or help by Rogers researchers reading this in locating or separating the many Rogers names would be much appreciated. We would be very happy to share information. Joyce Phillips ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

The following information is the reason I have searched all ends of the earth for BEATRICE TIMMS. I believe that Joseph possibly left a child in SC and this lady was related to those Rogers lines. Please contact me if you have any information about Beatrice and/or Joseph. The name James Timms is a tantalizing clue in the SC Land Grants in the 1700's. Thank you very much in advance for your time and help. [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) While I was researching the files of Joseph Rogers(my g-g-g--g-g-g-g-grandfather) in the South Carolina archives, I found a letter written 13 June 1923 by BEATRICE TIMMS in which she stated that she was applying for membership in the DAR on her ancestor Joseph Rogers. She listed some dates and I realized that this is also my ancestor. Joseph's service was in South Carolina but he received his pension in Bedford County, Tennessee. I have been searching for descendants of Joseph and I feel this seems to be a vital clue but I have no information who Beatrice Timms descends from because I have not been able to identify all of Joseph's children. Any information would be very much appreciated and if you relate to this line I would be happy to share information with you. Thank you very much!!! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Once again using the SC Land Archives and the dates 1750-1800 my cousins and myself have found the following postings and would really like to share information with anyone who can relate to these families. The notes in bold lettering are those of my cousins and myself. Thank you once again. [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Date: 1784/07/23 Description: LEMLEY, PETER, PLAT FOR 255 ACRES ON WATERS OF BEAVER CREEK, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY THOMAS LEWIS. Names Indexed: LEMLEY, PETER/LEWIS, THOMAS/ROGERS, JAMES/DIE, JOHN/MANSIL, ROBERT/HILL, MRS./ Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT/BEAVER CREEK/BROAD RIVER Type: PLAT/ Topics: / This Thomas Rogers could possibly be the mysterious brother of our Joseph Rogers born in 1750. All we know is Thomas died after 1790 because he is listed in his father's(John) will. Could Thomas have married into any of these families? Peter Lemley, Lewis Lemley, James Die, John Mansil, Robert Hill? The Hill family was very connected to our John/Joseph Rogers in Fairfield(SC) in this time period. Date: 1784/10/10 Description: ROGERS, HENRY, PLAT FOR 350 ACRES ON WATERS OF BEAVER AND ROCKEY CREEKS, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY DAVID HOPKINS. Names Indexed: ROGERS, HENRY/HOPKINS, DAVID/HISH, GEORGE/DY, JOHN/MOBLY, JOHN/HILL, JOHN/VAN DIVER, EDWARD/ROEBUCK, JAMES/ Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT/BEAVER CREEK/ROCKY CREEK Type: PLAT/ Topics: / We feel this is definitely our Henry Rogers s/o John Rogers who died in 1790 in Fairfield, SC. Henry died 27 Aug 1824 and married Elizabeth Mobley. Date: 1785/11/26 Description: GOIN, JOHN, PLAT FOR 237 ACRES ON WATERS OF LITTLE RIVER AND BEAVER CREEK, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY JAMES DOUGHARTY. Names Indexed: GOIN, JOHN/DOUGHARTY, JAMES/GWINN, JOHN/ROGERS, HENRY/ Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT/LITTLE RIVER/BEAVER CREEK Type: PLAT/ Topics: / Date: 1793/11/04 Description: TIMMS, JAMES, PLAT FOR 66 ACRES ON BRANCH OF BEAVER CREEK, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY W. CATO. Names Indexed: TIMMS, JAMES/CATO, W./HAMPTON, WADE/HOPKINS, DAVID/CREES/TURNER, JOHN/ROGERS, JACOB/ Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT/BEAVER CREEK/BROAD RIVER Type: PLAT/ Topics: / We've looked at this before--it sure is intriguing to see the name James Timms in connection with a John Rogers--probably ours because of the location. I will make a separate posting about Timms and Rogers. ** Date: 1793/11/04 Description: TIMMS, JAMES, PLAT FOR 39 ACRES ON BRANCH OF BEAVER CREEK, FAIRFIELD COUNTY, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY W. CATO. Names Indexed: TIMMS, JAMES/CATO, W./COLMAN, THOMAS/TURNER, JOHN/CREES/COLMAN, ROBERT/ROGERS, JACOB/ Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT/FAIRFIELD COUNTY/BEAVER CREEK Type: PLAT/ Topics: / ** Date: 1796/07/04 Description: COLEMAN, ROBERT, ASSIGNEE OF JAMES TIMMS, ADMOR. OF JACOB ROGERS, PLAT FOR 15.5 ACRES ON BEAVER CREEK, FAIRFIELD COUNTY, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY HENRY MOORE. Names Indexed: COLEMAN, ROBERT/TIMMS, JAMES/ROGERS, JACOB/MOORE, HENRY/MURDOCK, JAMES/GIVINS, JOHN/WOODWARD, WILLIAM/ Locations: BEAVER CREEK/FAIRFIELD COUNTY/CAMDEN DISTRICT Type: PLAT/ This listing again mentions James Timms, but who is Jacob Rogers. Because we have an association with Robert Coleman and the location of Beaver Creek, it sure does seem possible that these are our Rogers lines. Topics: / Does anyone have any information on this Jacob Rogers and/or James Timms. Because of the name "Robert Coleman" and the location of Beaver Creek, it sure does seem possible that these are our Rogers. ** Date: 1797/05/17 Description: TIMMS, JAMES, IN TRUST FOR HEIRS OF JACOB ROGERS, 54 ACRES ON BEAVER CREEK AND MCCLURE CREEK, FAIRFIELD COUNTY, CAMDEN DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY W. CATO. Names Indexed: TIMMS, JAMES/ROGERS, JACOB/CATO, W./MAZYCK, WILLIAM/GREER/PARTIN, PHILLIMAN/JOHNS, JOHN/ Locations: BEAVER CREEK/MCCLURES CREEK/BROAD RIVER/LITTLE RIVER/FAIRFIELD COUNTY/CAMDEN DISTRICT Type: PLAT/ Topics: / The McClure Creek is a sign that this could be our Rogers as well. We are very interested in doing some research on this James Rogers. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.