A few years back I sent for birth cert for my children , they needed them for jobs upon getting out of school. When we got them, they had me born E. Chicago ILL.,,,not IN. How do we trust what is suppose to be a legal doc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just a point of view..................thanks all........lillian

Some years back I sent for birth cert. for some of my children, they needed them for job and other such things, when they came back, it stated I was born in E. Chicago ,,Ill,,,,,,,,,,,,not In.Everything I have prior to that time says E. Chicago In.............so how do we trust even those....just a point of view............thank you all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lillian

Would someone please send me the URL to subscribe to the Missing Links list it sounds very interesting when you all talk about it. Sounds like something I might enjoy. I have not been on this list long but I must tell you I find it very intereresting and most enjoyable. Everyone is so friendly and helpful and I am so glad I found you. Thank you in advance for your help and I will be here if I can ever help you. I live in Kentucky and research many names such as PIERCE, ARNOLD, FELDPAUSCH, O'FLYNN, HOWARD, MILLAY, HALEY. Judy Gold wrote: > Thank you. > Maybe I should unsubscribe and then subscribe again & hopefully start > receiving them again? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lillian chastain" <willow358@cox.net> > To: <ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:18 PM > Subject: [RC-ROOTS] Missinglinks > > > Yes indeed, certainly am getting my issues, have for some time, some very > interesting information.,,,,,,,,,,,, > > > > > > ==== ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM DIGEST MODE: > > please click here and send: > > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO CONTACT THE LIST ADMIN: > please click here and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I'll add my two cents worth here. I have used the PAF genealogy program for years. Upgraded here several years ago. It is so very simple, has all the features of any other program and it is free. You can download it from the Familysearch.com web site. Just start with yourself. Read what it tells you about each step and you'll do fine. If there is a Family History Center near you, they will help you. Ruth SW Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: <genmail@1st.net> To: <ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [RC-ROOTS] TMG > jmh1925 wrote: > > >Diane, > > > >Thanks very much for writing what TMG is. I thought that it was very > >kind of you to give me such a complete, full analysis of the program. > > > >I also thanks the others of you who gave me a better picture of > >geneology programs. I have not been using a program. I have been up to > >now just putting the genealogy of each family line into DOCUMENT into my > >computer and putting the sources and pictures into a loose leaf book. > >In my DOCUMENT folder, I typed the name, birth date, marriage date, > >death date, and burial date of the husband, wife, and children. The > >source for each information is placed at the bottom. On the next page I > >write all the information on the husband and wife. Then I begin to do > >the same with each child. > > > >A few months ago, I bought Family Tree Maker. However, I just have > >typed my name, wife, and children in it. Because I do not know how to > >put in all the information and sources into it, I have not gone any > >further. The older that I get the more difficult it becomes to read > >directions. I am a very impatient person. > > > >Thanks again, > > > >Jim > > > > Thank you, Jim, for your kind recognition of what my message was really > all about. With funds so sparse for so many researchers, and research > expenses ever-increasing, I figure if a person takes the time to ask, > they should be given as many useful comparative details as possible so > they can make the best possible decision for themselves, relative to > their own preferences and needs. I find vague statements like "I like > such and such" or "I don't like that one," without supporting details, > to be pretty much useless. As I also did mention in addition to all the > details about TMG, anyone considering software programs should > thoroughly check all the options available, all the unbiased evaluations > to be found, the mailing lists for the programs, the sample programs > that are available, and guides unrelated to software about good > genealogy research. Unfortunately for some, TMG hasn't felt a need to > offer a full free version, only a demo. Nevertheless, they seem to be > doing quite well without offering it. > > When you already have it on your computer, Jim, I certainly don't think > I'd opt for using just document files instead of FTM, unless you really > aren't at all happy with it. All the programs take at least a little > time to learn, but any one of them is generally more helpful than plain > document folders. There's been a good discussion about the different > programs happening on GENCMP-L, including many sides and features > specifically about FTM. You can find the GENCMP-L archives through > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Newsgroup_Gateways/GENCMP.html > > Thank you, Sharon, for supplying a perfect example of one of the points > I made about TMG vs starting with other programs...having so much vested > in another program before realizing that you need something better, > that you can't make the change. I wasn't talking about any specific > program, and I wasn't putting down hobby researchers (indeed, I'd > venture to say that most professionals first started in it as a hobby); > but I do thank you for providing the great example in FTM. I have no > idea why you may have had a program transferring a gedcome, as I've > never had such a problem and don't know any TMG users who have. I > wonder, though, what originally prompted you to pay the $100 to try TMG > in the first place if you were already so happy with FTM? As you > pointed out, that's a lot of money to blow without reason. > > Diane > > > > ==== ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM LIST MODE: > please click here and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Virtual P.I. There are all kinds of sites on the Internet that promise that they will help you find someone or track down something--for a fee, of course. But if you have the time, you might be able to uncover the information yourself. Today's site lists investigative resources on the Web. There are links to county court records, resources for child support enforcement, places to search criminal histories, and inmate searches. When you visit the site, you will see a list of categories. I bet you'll find a few very interesting. TO VISIT THIS SITE, GO HERE: http://www.virtualgumshoe.com/

Hi Several: Here is where to find the free genealogy programs-- www.familysearch.org www.ancestry.com and www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Just follow instructions. Happy hunting, ancestors, that is!! Sincerely: Arthur A. Farrington 5640 Beechwood Dr, Lawton, OK 73505-2902 Tel: 580- 353-8520 Fax 580-353-8515 (9PM til 6AM) FARRINGTON, my name; GENEALOGY, my game; May I help YOU?

jmh1925 wrote: >Diane, > >Thanks very much for writing what TMG is. I thought that it was very >kind of you to give me such a complete, full analysis of the program. > >I also thanks the others of you who gave me a better picture of >geneology programs. I have not been using a program. I have been up to >now just putting the genealogy of each family line into DOCUMENT into my >computer and putting the sources and pictures into a loose leaf book. >In my DOCUMENT folder, I typed the name, birth date, marriage date, >death date, and burial date of the husband, wife, and children. The >source for each information is placed at the bottom. On the next page I >write all the information on the husband and wife. Then I begin to do >the same with each child. > >A few months ago, I bought Family Tree Maker. However, I just have >typed my name, wife, and children in it. Because I do not know how to >put in all the information and sources into it, I have not gone any >further. The older that I get the more difficult it becomes to read >directions. I am a very impatient person. > >Thanks again, > >Jim > Thank you, Jim, for your kind recognition of what my message was really all about. With funds so sparse for so many researchers, and research expenses ever-increasing, I figure if a person takes the time to ask, they should be given as many useful comparative details as possible so they can make the best possible decision for themselves, relative to their own preferences and needs. I find vague statements like "I like such and such" or "I don't like that one," without supporting details, to be pretty much useless. As I also did mention in addition to all the details about TMG, anyone considering software programs should thoroughly check all the options available, all the unbiased evaluations to be found, the mailing lists for the programs, the sample programs that are available, and guides unrelated to software about good genealogy research. Unfortunately for some, TMG hasn't felt a need to offer a full free version, only a demo. Nevertheless, they seem to be doing quite well without offering it. When you already have it on your computer, Jim, I certainly don't think I'd opt for using just document files instead of FTM, unless you really aren't at all happy with it. All the programs take at least a little time to learn, but any one of them is generally more helpful than plain document folders. There's been a good discussion about the different programs happening on GENCMP-L, including many sides and features specifically about FTM. You can find the GENCMP-L archives through http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Newsgroup_Gateways/GENCMP.html Thank you, Sharon, for supplying a perfect example of one of the points I made about TMG vs starting with other programs...having so much vested in another program before realizing that you need something better, that you can't make the change. I wasn't talking about any specific program, and I wasn't putting down hobby researchers (indeed, I'd venture to say that most professionals first started in it as a hobby); but I do thank you for providing the great example in FTM. I have no idea why you may have had a program transferring a gedcome, as I've never had such a problem and don't know any TMG users who have. I wonder, though, what originally prompted you to pay the $100 to try TMG in the first place if you were already so happy with FTM? As you pointed out, that's a lot of money to blow without reason. Diane

That is a joke, isn't it? It can't possibly be true?????? I'd be screaming bloody murder to my ISP. Elaine > my ISP won't let me send hyperlinks ... they just put anti-spam > controls in place ... >> > Candy >> >

Arthur, Could you please give us the links or URLs for the 3 free programs; tell us how to obtain them. . Thank you. Gold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur A. Farrington" <aafarrington@juno.com> To: <ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [RC-ROOTS] TMG > Hi All: > > I haven't put my stamp here very often but I feel I must sound > off----- > > Genealogy has been my forte for over 45 years now and I am over > 84 of age. So, please listen for a moment. There are many fine > genealogy computer programs and I have many of them on my computer right > now. It is what you feel better with that you should be using. Not > what others try to sell you. When you find the one you like, then put > your information inside and enjoy. Many of them don't cost you an arm > and leg either. In fact, I know several that are free. Yes, I said > free. Legacy Family Tree is one, PAF is another, and Ancestry Family > Tree is another. These all can be downloaded and used forever, if you > wish and they don't cost at all. AND, they are much friendly than TMG > and better than Family Tree Maker, period!! > > Am I recommending one over another, no, believe it or not. But > I am recommending that you do try one, until you find the one you like. > With that said, I am thanking you for listening and I wish you happy > hunting, ancestors, that is!! > > Sincerely: > > Arthur A. Farrington > 5640 Beechwood Dr, Lawton, OK 73505-2902 Tel: 580- > 353-8520 Fax 580-353-8515 (9PM til 6AM) FARRINGTON, my name; > GENEALOGY, my game; May I help YOU? > > > ==== ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM LIST MODE: > please click here and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

no joke -- I couldn't send the message until I had put a space in the URL so it wouldn't go as a hyperlink (possible reason: some Trojan horse got the password for the sign-in for someone else using the same ISP, and a spammer sent out hundreds of globs of spam, by using a legitimate mail address and the filched password to sign in ) this last go-round of v-*r*ses included a loophole to have the computer connect back to the writer of the detested infection, reporting either all keystrokes OR anything with the "at" symbol in it ... now let's get back to discussing methods of research; I've been using the 1880 census database on the LDS site quite a bit lately, since I got a faster hookup, and by putting JUST the surname in, and scanning through the entries for the location I'm looking for, have found a good bit of collateral lines, plus a couple of direct-line mistakes that I hadn't caught earlier C ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM (State of Virginia)" <etm1935@yahoo.com> To: <ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 20, 2003 07:31 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [RC-ROOTS] HOW DO WE OBTAIN FREE GENE. PROGRAMS????? > That is a joke, isn't it? It can't possibly be true?????? I'd > be screaming bloody murder to my ISP. > > Elaine > > > my ISP won't let me send hyperlinks ... they just put anti-spam > > controls in place ... > >> > Candy >

> > > aloha, Wayne > > > > I think you may have inadvertently sent people to the wrong place > > > > try > > www.legacyfamilytree add a .com on the end of that ... my ISP won't let me send hyperlinks ... they just put anti-spam controls in place ... > > Candy > > > > > >

http://www.legacy.com http://www.ancestry.com\ http://www.familysearch.com Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: Gold [mailto:Silver9876@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:23 PM To: ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RC-ROOTS] HOW DO WE OBTAIN FREE GENE. PROGRAMS????? Arthur, Could you please give us the links or URLs for the 3 free programs; tell us how to obtain them. . Thank you. Gold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur A. Farrington" <aafarrington@juno.com> To: <ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [RC-ROOTS] TMG > Hi All: > > I haven't put my stamp here very often but I feel I must sound > off----- > > Genealogy has been my forte for over 45 years now and I am over > 84 of age. So, please listen for a moment. There are many fine > genealogy computer programs and I have many of them on my computer right > now. It is what you feel better with that you should be using. Not > what others try to sell you. When you find the one you like, then put > your information inside and enjoy. Many of them don't cost you an arm > and leg either. In fact, I know several that are free. Yes, I said > free. Legacy Family Tree is one, PAF is another, and Ancestry Family > Tree is another. These all can be downloaded and used forever, if you > wish and they don't cost at all. AND, they are much friendly than TMG > and better than Family Tree Maker, period!! > > Am I recommending one over another, no, believe it or not. But > I am recommending that you do try one, until you find the one you like. > With that said, I am thanking you for listening and I wish you happy > hunting, ancestors, that is!! > > Sincerely: > > Arthur A. Farrington > 5640 Beechwood Dr, Lawton, OK 73505-2902 Tel: 580- > 353-8520 Fax 580-353-8515 (9PM til 6AM) FARRINGTON, my name; > GENEALOGY, my game; May I help YOU? > > > ==== ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM LIST MODE: > please click here and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM LIST MODE: please click here and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Family Tree Maker is fairly user friendly, Jim. Just use the portions you currently are comfortable with. It will become easier to use as you enter more names. I started with myself and immediate family and then went further back. My research is difficult because it involves ancestry in a country that has not cooperated with the LDS and allowed filming of records. But that has not prevented me from the pleasure of creating reports that cover family back to 1801. When you have a few more entries in the FTM program print out a report. That alone will keep you interested in doing more so you can see the report build <smile>. Elaine (fellow hobbyist) Hello jmh1925 On Friday, June 20, 2003, you wrote > Diane, > Thanks very much for writing what TMG is. I thought that it was very > kind of you to give me such a complete, full analysis of the program. > I also thanks the others of you who gave me a better picture of > geneology programs. I have not been using a program. I have been up to > now just putting the genealogy of each family line into DOCUMENT into my > computer and putting the sources and pictures into a loose leaf book. > In my DOCUMENT folder, I typed the name, birth date, marriage date, > death date, and burial date of the husband, wife, and children. The > source for each information is placed at the bottom. On the next page I > write all the information on the husband and wife. Then I begin to do > the same with each child. > A few months ago, I bought Family Tree Maker. However, I just have > typed my name, wife, and children in it. Because I do not know how to > put in all the information and sources into it, I have not gone any > further. The older that I get the more difficult it becomes to read > directions. I am a very impatient person. > Thanks again, > Jim

Hi All: I haven't put my stamp here very often but I feel I must sound off----- Genealogy has been my forte for over 45 years now and I am over 84 of age. So, please listen for a moment. There are many fine genealogy computer programs and I have many of them on my computer right now. It is what you feel better with that you should be using. Not what others try to sell you. When you find the one you like, then put your information inside and enjoy. Many of them don't cost you an arm and leg either. In fact, I know several that are free. Yes, I said free. Legacy Family Tree is one, PAF is another, and Ancestry Family Tree is another. These all can be downloaded and used forever, if you wish and they don't cost at all. AND, they are much friendly than TMG and better than Family Tree Maker, period!! Am I recommending one over another, no, believe it or not. But I am recommending that you do try one, until you find the one you like. With that said, I am thanking you for listening and I wish you happy hunting, ancestors, that is!! Sincerely: Arthur A. Farrington 5640 Beechwood Dr, Lawton, OK 73505-2902 Tel: 580- 353-8520 Fax 580-353-8515 (9PM til 6AM) FARRINGTON, my name; GENEALOGY, my game; May I help YOU?

Diane, Thanks very much for writing what TMG is. I thought that it was very kind of you to give me such a complete, full analysis of the program. I also thanks the others of you who gave me a better picture of geneology programs. I have not been using a program. I have been up to now just putting the genealogy of each family line into DOCUMENT into my computer and putting the sources and pictures into a loose leaf book. In my DOCUMENT folder, I typed the name, birth date, marriage date, death date, and burial date of the husband, wife, and children. The source for each information is placed at the bottom. On the next page I write all the information on the husband and wife. Then I begin to do the same with each child. A few months ago, I bought Family Tree Maker. However, I just have typed my name, wife, and children in it. Because I do not know how to put in all the information and sources into it, I have not gone any further. The older that I get the more difficult it becomes to read directions. I am a very impatient person. Thanks again, Jim

In a message dated 6/19/2003 9:39:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, workman@dreamscape.com writes: > Diane, your long discussion of TMG really comes across as a bit snobbish > about us amateur hobbyists who use other programs and you serious > professionals who use TMG. I don't think that is what is being said here. As I see it, it all depends on what your needs are in a genealogy program as to which one will work best for you. If you want to make a book format when you have input all your data and be able to put pictures along with the people in your file--then one program might do that better than the others. If you want to be sure of entering old Quaker dates in the proper format--be sure the program you select can do this cleanly. The thing about TMG is that it is geered more to the professional genealogist who is inputting somewhat different and more varied data than most amateur hobby researchers. So the learning curve is high but the program is capable of doing many varied things. The simple fact is that you don't need to buy a racing car to drive once a week to the supermarket and church--there are cheaper and more efficient and easier to use cars to accomplish what you want--to get you from point A to point B and back again safely. Same with genealogy programs--different programs for different needs. Joan

The Master Genealogist - I bought it, I used it, I hated it. I wasted my $100 for a program that, contrary to its overdeveloped hype, couldn't even accept my gedcom from Family Tree Maker. Even so called "tech support" couldn't get that to work. Diane, your long discussion of TMG really comes across as a bit snobbish about us amateur hobbyists who use other programs and you serious professionals who use TMG. The research is not in the program, it's in the family historian. Or it isn't. Fancy, expensive, highly touted software will not turn a sloppy researcher into a careful one, and most software programs have ample storage capacity for all the sources, notes, and other proofs of your professionalism you'd care to display. Personally, I don't think the sun rises and sets on my genealogy work. I putter, get serious, putter some more, share stuff, have fun, do good work and mediocre work. That's me, not my Family Tree Maker Program. Sharon >

TMG is The Master Genealogist, a genealogy research record-keeping software that was originally developed to meet highly professional genealogy research standards. At the time it was created, there were few options in genealogy software and most professional genealogists had little familiarity with personal computers, much less the internet. In my opinion, most other genealogy programs seem to have been made specifically to create and capture the hobby market in relation to the internet and really only give minimal thought and effort to sound research practices. I think anyone who uses or wants to use the most sound genealogy research practices will find TMG to be a very welcome tool, and not particularly difficult at all; but they will probably find the less capable programs frustrating when they can't keep detailed records and sources the way they should. It's much more frustrating for an inexperieced computer user who knows proper research methods to try to get a program to keep records properly when it wasn't designed to do so, than to have a capable program and simply not know how to use it. Anyone with the analytical ability to do genealogy research is capable of learning how to use TMG, but they can't make a less capable program do things properly when it wasn't designed to do so. TMG comes with a practice mode to put you through the basic paces of learning the program, as well as excellent help files, instruction manual, users' group mailing list, and extraordinarily good tech support from Wholly Genes Software if needed. When I first got The Master Genealogist I already had a lot of years of research experience behind me but was a complete novice at computers, and I had absolutely no problem at all learning how to use TMG. Although TMG was designed to meet detailed professional research standards, it is also flexible enough to allow you to make your record-keeping as simple or as detailed as you wish. This much flexibility (i.e. more ways to do each thing in one program) does mean you may have to pay a bit closer attention to the help files or manual until you learn everything and get it set up just the way you prefer; but it also allows for you to grow in your abilities without outgrowing the program. I think more problems may actually arise for people who have learned their research practices based on another particular computer program first, rather than selecting their software based on proper research methods. Those who have learned "easy" research practices on supposedly "easier" programs simply get used to over-simplified standards and cutting corners; and then they perhaps don't recognize or understand the need for detailed records or the deficiencies in those other programs until they are so far into using them that it would be "too much work" to change. Nevertheless, even people who prefer the detailed abilities of TMG do find some things to like about other programs and some actually use different programs for different purposes. TMG is far above all the other genealogy software programs available in terms of flexibility in research and record-keeping, allowing you to keep every detail of your research (no matter how lengthy), with surety values, whether it's the actual facts or the sources from which you obtained those facts, even when you've found multiple contradictory "facts" for the same event. (For example, what if you have five different birthdates from five different sources and you aren't yet sure which one is accurate? Even if you figure out which one is accurate, ten years later when someone else challenges your findings and brings up a different date again, you need to be able to consult your files to see that you, too, had considered the erroneous date and why you discounted it. Ten years down the road, or even after you've gone on to be with your ancestors, you don't want the veracity of your research disregarded simply because you didn't keep complete records.) Beiing able to record *everything* is crucial to the most sound research, so at any time (even years down the road) you can see exactly where you've been and where you currently are in your research, and clearly understand just *how* you arrived at your final conclusions, not just what those final conclusions are. The difference between TMG and all the other genealogy programs is easily summed up for me in the difference in the meanings of the words "professional" vs. "hobby" as they relate to genealogy research. You can learn more about The Master Genealogist at http://www.whollygenes.com/ If shopping for genealogy software, you may also want to check out all the links connected with http://www.mumford.ca/reportcard/ (although we should be seeing a newer report soon). You may also want to "listen in" on all the various software mailing lists that can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/ and try out the various free demo programs you can download from the software sites. If you really don't want as much detail, flexibility, and professionalism as TMG offers, any one of several popular hobbiest programs (including some free ones or demo copies) may suit you well enough for now. Diane jmh1925 wrote: >Diane, > >In your message to the list you mentioned that you prefer TMG as the >best record-keepingsoftware. What is TMG? > >Jim Hall >

The Master Genealogist, considered by many to be one of the best (though most difficult to learn) genealogy programs. Elaine I hold it true that thoughts are things endowed with bodies, breath, and wings. --Ella Wheeler Wilcox Hello jmh1925 On Thursday, June 19, 2003, you wrote > Diane, > In your message to the list you mentioned that you prefer TMG as the > best record-keepingsoftware. What is TMG? > Jim Hall

Diane, In your message to the list you mentioned that you prefer TMG as the best record-keepingsoftware. What is TMG? Jim Hall