Minor details that may or may not help... There were two families of Wests that I remember in North Creek while I was growing up. One lived north of North Creek and then moved into town in the 1960s. As I recall, they had 8 children in the family with names all beginning with "D", and David West, the oldest, was my cousin's sweetheart for a time. Harold and Louise West were older and did not have any children that I recall and moved to Florida in the 60's although Harold maintained a home in North Creek until the 1980's. They have both passed on years ago but Harold was a great fiddle player, entertaining us all evening in the summertime at the family camp where there were no TVs . Levi Hills was the patriarch of the Hills family that I remember hearing about. His impressive monument in the North River cemetery was just a little bigger and a little grander than the rest of the stones, but tastefully so. I thought he must have been a man of some importance in the community. He sold my G Grandfather (on my mother's side) apple trees for the orchard that was planted on the family's newly purchased land in about 1910. Levi Hills and his family lived in a beautiful old stone and wood farmhouse that has since burned to the ground. I'm pretty sure he was related to the Smith family of North River somehow. A Gladys Hills of Johnsburg was a third grade teacher at North Creek's Johnsburg Central School for years (As was a Mrs. Roblee but I forget the lady's first name). Another Hills family moved to Burnt Hills, NY later. Just to add a little confusion to the mix, I have seen Levi "Hill" as well as "Hills" in the records. Maybe someone with closer ties to the family can clarify this for us. My records may not be complete on the cemetery in North Creek and I welcome any corrections or additions that might help our family research. While on a field trip to gather other branch names and dates, my grandmother casually mentioned that her husband (my grandfather ) was related to Roblees, so on my way to get the other surnamed relatives, I jotted down the Roblee information, not knowing if I would ever need or care about the information (!). Back to my mother's side, I have Carpenters on Long Island (Desendants of Eugene Edward Carpenter) that I am trying to piece together but I have been unable to connect them with certainty as direct relatives and I have only questions, no answers so this debate is interesting to me, too. We won't even get into the Smiths who are somehow related to the Carpenters and my connections on BOTH sides. On my mother's side (not the Roblee side), one of our ancestors was Annetje Waldron, daughter of Johannes Waldron, my GGGGGGGG Grandmother b. ca 1690. If anyone has information on Annetje or her father Johannes, I would be interested in getting it (I haven't gotten that far!). So my father is distantly related to my mother with only a separation of 350 years or so. "We are all related" is an old Native American saying...