Phyllis sent me a note off-list that indicated that some clarification might be in order! In my notes about Philip Robblee/Rublee, I mentioned: "Philip was in Monkton, Vermont as early as 23 Jan 1808 when he was warned out of the town." Warning out was a phenomenon that occured in Vermont towns, and I believe other New England towns as well. At that time, the towns were responsible for supporting residents who could not support themselves -- this was an early version of "welfare" as we know it now. So, towns took to "warning" new arrivals out of town. This took the form of official written notice that the family was to leave town, and that the town was not liable for their support. Warned out families very often stayed put. But, they were on notice that if they could not support themselves, the town was not responsible. The second phrase is: "Polly Robblee was dismissed from the church in New Haven in May of 1836, to the Baptist Church in Bristol, VT. Was she a daughter? What about the Phebe Rublee who was dismissed from the Congregational Church in New Haven, VT in May of 1828 to the Baptist Church in Bristol, VT?" It sounds awful, but is not necessarily so. In those day, the term was rather neutral. Usually, it meant that the church member was leaving town. It was often coupled with a letter of recommendation that the member could take to a church in the new town or residence. So, dismissal can often give you a clue about the exact dates of a move from one place to another. The bottom line is that these terms do not suggest the individual or family was ne'er-do-well, but rather than they were mobile! Cindy

Cindy: Thanks once again for your input into my Phebe problem. As I told Bob, I was fishing for new people with new information. Somewhere there has to be research information that I can access. When I get back up north, I will dig into some new archives. The Wevertown, North Creek , Town of Johnsburg Robblees do have to have some more clarity and research. The Church information about being dismissed was something that was done even in this area. My mother had the same papers after she was married. The original church membership was canceled and an introduction letter was issued to the new church membership. Joan Reynold's Methodist Church book for the Johnsburg Methodist Church has many examples of this process. Maybe they should re-introduce the warning letter now. Would eliminate a lot of welfare problems. Thanks for all of the time you put in on these areas. It really does help solidify information about the many Robblees. Regards, JIM Richards -----Original Message----- From: asr141@copper.net To: ROBLEE@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 7:22 PM Subject: [ROBLEE] warning out of towns, dismissed from churches, etc. Phyllis sent me a note off-list that indicated that some clarification might be in order! In my notes about Philip Robblee/Rublee, I mentioned: "Philip was in Monkton, Vermont as early as 23 Jan 1808 when he was warned out of the town." Warning out was a phenomenon that occured in Vermont towns, and I believe other New England towns as well. At that time, the towns were responsible for supporting residents who could not support themselves -- this was an early version of "welfare" as we know it now. So, towns took to "warning" new arrivals out of town. This took the form of official written notice that the family was to leave town, and that the town was not liable for their support. Warned out families very often stayed put. But, they were on notice that if they could not support themselves, the town was not responsible. The second phrase is: "Polly Robblee was dismissed from the church in New Haven in May of 1836, to the Baptist Church in Bristol, VT. Was she a daughter? What about the Phebe Rublee who was dismissed from the Congregational Church in New Haven, VT in May of 1828 to the Baptist Church in Bristol, VT?" It sounds awful, but is not necessarily so. In those day, the term was rather neutral. Usually, it meant that the church member was leaving town. It was often coupled with a letter of recommendation that the member could take to a church in the new town or residence. So, dismissal can often give you a clue about the exact dates of a move from one place to another. The bottom line is that these terms do not suggest the individual or family was ne'er-do-well, but rather than they were mobile! Cindy For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.