Hello All, I don't believe that we need to test everyone to prove lineage. And there is family among us whom has differing DNA. But we all share the family heritage, no matter how we came to whom we are. Past choices have made us family. I believe I can trace my pedigree to John Robblee, bur 1810 in Wallace NS. I would like to be tested and I would like to see 3 others tested as well. A direct descendent of William and Reuben that would volunteer would nice and one Roblyer descendent, too. But, before we proceed, I think we should have a very discerning look at the Rapalye genealogy that this descendent has hopefully proven, somewhat exactly. Any of the work on the family of Joris that I have seen is quite loosely fit together. If this person is part of the Raplee family of Milo, NY. descended from James Roblyer, married Abiah Morse, we may prove connection, but it won't be Rapalye. Also, there is a DNA marker on the ladies' side know as mitochrondial DNA. It was used to find a descendent of a skeleton found in a cave in Britain, dated as 10,000+- years old. I am glad that Cindy has found a piece to help solve the puzzle of Phil's Calvin. I had written a note to Phil sometime last spring about Census records from 1830 and 1840, that showed the family consisting of 2 children, a boy and a girl. The third child was either born after 1830 and died prior to 1840, or was a child that someone didn't know a connection, and added because there had to be some connection. This new record means that the Luther Roblee at North Creek and Phil's Calvin were brothers, {because of that Luther's will} and now, we have to ask, whose children? If we accept that Luther from North Creek was the son of Thomas Robblee, married Chloe Everts, then we will have to find lineage for the other Calvin, lived North Creek, and Luther, son of Phoebe and Reuben. As I have mentioned before, we will still have to find additional information. The Census records are being added to and are becoming readily available electronically almost weekly. The 1790 Census that I have seen shows only Thomas and Reuben at Granville. This means, to me, that their father was either still at Lanesborough, or possibly at Arlington, VT. Luther of whose will we have a copy, wife's name was Roxy, was the same age as he was. We know that family consisted of at least Isaac and Betsey and back to Luther, Jr. as well as Chloe Roblee b 1802, married Thomas Wait. According to Milo Roblee, Luther had been married twice and had a first family. His source was, I believe, Isaac, Luther's youngest son. Was the first family actually the family of the other Luther? Are there children born at the same times all assigned to the same family? Luther, son of Reuben and Phoebe, baptized in Lanesborough, 1781, would, I think, be the man who married Roxy, rather than Luther, b 1785, son of Thomas and Chloe, unless Roxy's birthdate of 1788 is incorrect and Chloe, b 1802, birthdate is incorrect. Theron, son of Thomas and Chloe, went bankrupt in 1826 and probably was the first to settle in North Creek. Does it follow that the Luther and Calvin that went to North Creek were his brothers? If the families lived close to one another, possibly cousins. With any luck, more census info will be available online and we may come up with other answers. HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob