Good Morning, All, I will attempt to answer some of the questions posed over the last couple of days with what I have found in my files. Cindy, I found George Roblee, b ca 1790, in the 1870 Census at Estell, Kentucky, under a variant spelling in Ancestry's files when they were open in Jan. He is a stray and I believe that Ray Robley's family were in Kentucky as well. Also, for those who wish to access Ancestry's files, without the cost of a subscription, and the hassle of shutting down a free trial, visit a Family History Library. Cousin Joyce Atkin mentioned that to me in converstaion the other day. I believe that the Carpenter Genealogy was written by George Weyland Carpemter, b 6 Jan 1901. He was a missionary to the Congo and researched his family when back in the States. He was the son of Daniel W. Carpenter and Mary Edith Carr. Mary was the dau of John Henry Carr and Cynthia Adelia Roblee. Cynthia was the daughter of Norman Roblee and Adelia Soule. Lee, we need to know your grandfather, Carpenter's, name in order to possibly tie you to the Steuben Co. Carpenters. Gloria, we have a large portion of the Robblee families that originated in Granville, NY. established. Do you have a genealogy program which will allow us to send you a gedcom? As to Morehouse, we have a Nellie Jane Roblee, dau of Hamilton, son of Elisha Roblee, married James Morehouse and had 3? sons. I have had correspondce with gdaughter? Phyllis. My personal search in genealogy has been to find the immigrant ancestor and all the descendents. The farther back in time I search, the less information is available to track individuals. But, it also amazes me that the present is so poorly known. I would like to know which Roblee family Rosalie belongs, Gloria? Can you provide me with an address or phone number? I want to know her father's and grandfather's names and if I have them, our files will generally find them their place in the family tree. I have one more comment about human behavior which I am quite sure has remained constant throughout the years. Improvements in living standards and technology have not changed them one iota. In the 1906 Census for Assinaboine, SK. Canada, I find my grandfather and his father homesteading. Alexander sold his share to Albert about this time. And Alexander is listed with a spouse? of whom we never knew. And to whom he was never married. His wife, Albert's mother was back on PEI. An affair, and the details of that were never spoken to the children, who never knew. My ggrandfather on the Robinson side father 2 children with 2 Mothers prior to being married twice and fathering about a dozen more. My grandmother never mentioned his past and his obituary found him to be an upright member of the community. We hide from these past events at our peril, because they often reappear, challenging our fondest beliefs. HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob

I have Truman Ingalls?as the second husband of Abigail Roblee, bur > Granville. and I have seen this gravesite. We will need Jean to revisit > there and confirm the dates. Theresa believes Abigail is buried in North > Creek. Can you confirm this, Phyllis? I don't have Abigail listed among the stones in North Creek Cemetery but it is possible that I missed her. Also, I don't think anyone has a listing of the Roblees buried in the North River Cemetery and Abigail does sound familiar. A listing of Roblees from there would be a great help at this point if anyone can get up there (after the snows of course). There are probably no more than 100 stones and the Roblees are together in two areas as I recall. I don't have any travel plans right now but maybe someone else could help in the spring? Phyllis Reed

Ira and Hepzibah (Hepsy) Hills Ingalls were with this group that passed through from the Granville area to the Town of Johnsburg area and then on to the western part of New York State before continuing further west. They left behind a stained glass window in the North River Methodist Church with their name on it and a child buried in the North River cemetery in 1824 named Christiana, "whose death was occasioned by the fall of a tree". The Hills family lived still in the hamlet of Johnsburg in the Town of Johnsburg when I was growing up. They had come from new England (MA?) and when I last checked in with Ingalls researchers, they believed that Ira was a cousin of Laura Ingalls Wilder of "Little House on the Prairie" fame. In her book "Farmer Boy", she tells of her husband Almanzo Wilder's growing up on a farm in the Adirondack Wilderness. Some of our relatives married within our little circle of pioneers and patriots and others took Native American wives. Phyllis Reed

The Morehouses, Millingtons and Delabas also lived in the hamlets of Baker's Mills, Wevertown, Johnsburg, and North River, all in close proximity to the hamlet of North Creek and all in the town(ship) of Johnsburg. To get to the North River cemetery. travel north on Rt 28 from North Creek, turn left on 13th Lake Road at Towne's store just before the county line, go up the mountain a few miles and bear right onto Cemetery Road just after the firehouse. Go up to the top of the hill and just before the big turn is the cemetery on the right. The "new" cemetery further up on the left has no old graves before ca 1985. The only Huldah I remember hearing about is Huldah Bennett, a formidable looking older woman from the photos in my family's album. She and her husband had a farm and took in T.B. patients. She would have been somewhere between 60-80 years (my guess) in about 1910 when my mother's aunt arrived for the T.B. air cure in North River and they started snapping photos of the great wilderness that they fell in love with. This Huldah would have been way too young but I guess it must not have been an unusual name at the time. Phyllis Reed

Hello Phyllis and All, Phyllis I live in Rochester currently and will check on Roblee's at Mt. Hope cemetery, as my Northup's and Atwood's are also there. I also have Northup's in Wayne Co. cemeteries, they as well also worked on the Erie Canal project. Also, I am willing to help in the Warren Co. & Washington Co. cemeteries. But won't be able to make a trip there until mid-April-we will need to co-ordinate our time frames. It will be a pleasure to meet you. Sincerely, Theresa. PMaeveReed@aol.com wrote: PS, It does make sense about a divorce though, as within 2 years Reynolds remarried and left Granville, children in tow, for Ontario Center, Wayne Co. The Ingalls passed through this way as the Roblees did. I do not know the dates you are looking for but I know a lot of families moved west for the building of the Erie Canal and opportunities there ca 1815-1835. I lived in Rochester myself for a while. Has anyone checked the records in the Mt Hope Cemetery for missing Roblees? Just a thought.... Phyllis For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

I guess I can't comment on this Huldah, unless I knew more about her. Thomas was born 1761, according to his gravestone. When a birthdate of a wife is unknown, I tend to use a rule of thumb that she might have been 3 years younger. There are many, many exception to this, of course. I agree that the inclusion of all of this information in his will seemed to be a precaution against claims on his estate being made at some later date. I agree that we have no way of knowing that this child was actually his, but he certainly seems to have acknowledged paternity through word and deed. I don't know enough about the practices of the time to make any accurate conclusion -- it was unusual to see a divorce this early, but not unheard of. Guess it would be good to research that subject! Cindy -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Theresa Caparco Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:02 PM To: Cindy Waldron Subject: [ROBLEE] Huldah, of Thomas Dear Cindy, Huldah is a first name, it is also an alias for Hannah (Book: Origins of Names) I did spot a Huldah born circa 1762 in Warren Co, NY.-from one of the websites. I'm thinking this may be the one, as the Northup notes did contain her- although placed wrongly. This makes me feel- as though those in Granville-Slyboro may have known her- as I doubt if we Northup's would have known anything of another marriage that Thomas had previously, from out of the area. I doubt Thomas would have ever mentioned it after the marriage ended to "Huldah", so this is why I am thinking this way. He seems, in the Will, mentioned it- only as a precaution against any claims on his estate. Do you follow me? What do you think ? Sincerely, Theresa. PS. Not to cast aspersions...just reality, just because Thomas married her- did not mean the child was necessarily his...I also don't think people are any different then to now...its something to think about....also, gives reason to think...she was (seemed) to give in to this 'deal' of being handed money, to raise the child with no contact to Thomas-I believe only a woman with something to hide- would make such a deal. What are your thoughts? --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a situation in my family at the end of the 1700's beginning of the 1800's of a supposed first child of the second wife being born about 7 years before wife number one died and the second child born about 7 months after the first wife died but after the second marriage. I'd have to say there is not much new under the sun as far as people's behavior. I'm reminded of the minister discussing (preaching) the difference between faith and knowledge. He pointed to the Brown family in the front row and said that Mrs. Brown knew that those three children were her children and Mr Brown had Faith that hey were his children!!!! :) Bergetta On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Alger and Walcott Family wrote: > I guess I can't comment on this Huldah, unless I knew more about her. > Thomas was born 1761, according to his gravestone. When a > birthdate of a > wife is unknown, I tend to use a rule of thumb that she might have > been 3 > years younger. There are many, many exception to this, of course. > > I agree that the inclusion of all of this information in his will > seemed to > be a precaution against claims on his estate being made at some > later date. > I agree that we have no way of knowing that this child was actually > his, but > he certainly seems to have acknowledged paternity through word and > deed. I > don't know enough about the practices of the time to make any accurate > conclusion -- it was unusual to see a divorce this early, but not > unheard > of. Guess it would be good to research that subject! > > Cindy > > -----Original Message----- > From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee- > bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Theresa Caparco > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:02 PM > To: Cindy Waldron > Subject: [ROBLEE] Huldah, of Thomas > > > > Dear Cindy, > > Huldah is a first name, it is also an alias for Hannah (Book: > Origins of > Names) > I did spot a Huldah born circa 1762 in Warren Co, NY.-from one of the > websites. > > I'm thinking this may be the one, as the Northup notes did contain > her- > although placed wrongly. > This makes me feel- as though those in Granville-Slyboro may have > known her- > as I doubt if we Northup's would have known anything of another > marriage > that Thomas had previously, from out of the area. I doubt Thomas > would have > ever mentioned it after the marriage ended to "Huldah", so this is > why I am > thinking this way. > He seems, in the Will, mentioned it- only as a precaution against > any claims > on his estate. Do you follow me? > What do you think ? > Sincerely, > Theresa. > PS. Not to cast aspersions...just reality, just because Thomas > married her- > did not mean the child was necessarily his...I also don't think > people are > any different then to now...its something to think about....also, > gives > reason to think...she was (seemed) to give in to this 'deal' of > being handed > money, to raise the child with no contact to Thomas-I believe only > a woman > with something to hide- would make such a deal. What are your > thoughts? > > > --------------------------------- > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at > ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at > ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Cindy, Huldah is a first name, it is also an alias for Hannah (Book: Origins of Names) I did spot a Huldah born circa 1762 in Warren Co, NY.-from one of the websites. I'm thinking this may be the one, as the Northup notes did contain her- although placed wrongly. This makes me feel- as though those in Granville-Slyboro may have known her- as I doubt if we Northup's would have known anything of another marriage that Thomas had previously, from out of the area. I doubt Thomas would have ever mentioned it after the marriage ended to "Huldah", so this is why I am thinking this way. He seems, in the Will, mentioned it- only as a precaution against any claims on his estate. Do you follow me? What do you think ? Sincerely, Theresa. PS. Not to cast aspersions...just reality, just because Thomas married her- did not mean the child was necessarily his...I also don't think people are any different then to now...its something to think about....also, gives reason to think...she was (seemed) to give in to this 'deal' of being handed money, to raise the child with no contact to Thomas-I believe only a woman with something to hide- would make such a deal. What are your thoughts? --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

Roxey was the wife of Luther Robblee. Luther was a son of Thomas and Chloe (Everts) Robblee. The lost child is the child referred to in Thomas' will -- a child by a woman named Huldah. Most likely this first marriage and birth of this child occured in Lanesborough, MA. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of tennake2@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:43 PM To: roblee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROBLEE] will of Thomas Robblee Cindy- Thanks for this information. I plan to go to North Creek this summer. Maybe I'll be able to make a discovery from the old stones at Union Cemetery or Bates. Who was Roxy Downs? -Who is this lost child of Thomas Roblee--are questions I'll work to resolve. Gloria Gloria Waldron Hukle P.O. Box 818 Averill Park, New York 12018 www.gloriawaldronhukle.name tennake2@aol.com

Cindy- Thanks for this information. I plan to go to North Creek this summer. Maybe I'll be able to make a discovery from the old stones at Union Cemetery or Bates. Who was Roxy Downs? -Who is this lost child of Thomas Roblee--are questions I'll work to resolve. Gloria Gloria Waldron Hukle P.O. Box 818 Averill Park, New York 12018 www.gloriawaldronhukle.name tennake2@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: asr141@copper.net To: roblee@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [ROBLEE] will of Thomas Robblee I have tried to identify Roxey's parents, but without any luck. Was Roxey the brother of Elijah Downs of Granville, NY? In 1850, he was living in Granville, age 67, born in CT. In 1820, which would have been about the time Roxey and Luther married, Elijah Downs was the only Downs head of household in Granville. It appears that he was 26-45. Two adult woman (one 26-45 and one over 45) were in the home, as well as several children. She may have been sister to Isaac Downs. Milo R. Roblee indicates that his great-grandfather Downs, given name unknown to him, had two children: Roxey and Isaac. His great grandmother married second a Mr. Gates and had two children: Harvey and Nancy Gates. See my other message about Huldah. We do not know what the name of the daughter is, nor do we know what became of mother and child. Cindty Walcott -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of tennake2@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:10 AM To: roblee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROBLEE] will of Thomas Robblee Thank you for providing the will.That does clear up the issue of Hulda as a former wife and not Luther's wife. Roxy Downs remains my gggrandmother. Still I know little about Roxy Downs and wondering if anyone else out there also shares Roxy. Also Thomas speaks of his first child, a daughter, that he cuts out of his will...saying that he provided for her education and care and because of Hulda, he did not have the comfort of seeing his lst child. Does anyone know the name of this child? I'm wondering if the lst born took the name of her step-father when Hulda remarried. With so many Roblee and Waldron in my Warren County lineage I can't help wondering what happened to this little girl. I also have another mystery, but this has to do with the name Morehouse and I've been thinking that perhaps one of you may have a clue. Not long ago I discovered that my graandmother, Ella Morehouse, who was the daughter of George Morehouse and Caroline Delaba, had 6 sisters and a brother, John. All of these children were born between l883 and l900 Warren County, New York. I have dates of birth, death, marriage. Three were married -the surnames, Millington, Leon Howard (married Esther) George Putnam, married Nancy Jane, and John Beadnell-Ida Morehouse. Does anyone know of these people or their children? Of course, answers many times only bring along more questions. Gloria Waldron Hukle P.O. Box 818 Averill Park, New York 12018 www.gloriawaldronhukle.name tennake2@aol.com For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

The "Carpenter" I allude to is a manuscript by G. W. Carpenter, entitled "Descendents of Ruben and Phebe Roblee. 1949. Based on the Notes of Mrs. Clarence Jones, Historian of Minerva, NY". There are several versions of this floating around. The copy I first obtained is in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I have no idea who G. W. Carpenter actually was!! Cindy Walcott -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Theresa Caparco Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:33 AM To: roblee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROBLEE] robblee-northrup Hello Cindy & all, Cindy and All, We Northup's are stewn with "Carpenter's" in our lineage as well. Wonder if its the same family lines as ours ?

I have tried to identify Roxey's parents, but without any luck. Was Roxey the brother of Elijah Downs of Granville, NY? In 1850, he was living in Granville, age 67, born in CT. In 1820, which would have been about the time Roxey and Luther married, Elijah Downs was the only Downs head of household in Granville. It appears that he was 26-45. Two adult woman (one 26-45 and one over 45) were in the home, as well as several children. She may have been sister to Isaac Downs. Milo R. Roblee indicates that his great-grandfather Downs, given name unknown to him, had two children: Roxey and Isaac. His great grandmother married second a Mr. Gates and had two children: Harvey and Nancy Gates. See my other message about Huldah. We do not know what the name of the daughter is, nor do we know what became of mother and child. Cindty Walcott -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of tennake2@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:10 AM To: roblee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROBLEE] will of Thomas Robblee Thank you for providing the will.That does clear up the issue of Hulda as a former wife and not Luther's wife. Roxy Downs remains my gggrandmother. Still I know little about Roxy Downs and wondering if anyone else out there also shares Roxy. Also Thomas speaks of his first child, a daughter, that he cuts out of his will...saying that he provided for her education and care and because of Hulda, he did not have the comfort of seeing his lst child. Does anyone know the name of this child? I'm wondering if the lst born took the name of her step-father when Hulda remarried. With so many Roblee and Waldron in my Warren County lineage I can't help wondering what happened to this little girl. I also have another mystery, but this has to do with the name Morehouse and I've been thinking that perhaps one of you may have a clue. Not long ago I discovered that my graandmother, Ella Morehouse, who was the daughter of George Morehouse and Caroline Delaba, had 6 sisters and a brother, John. All of these children were born between l883 and l900 Warren County, New York. I have dates of birth, death, marriage. Three were married -the surnames, Millington, Leon Howard (married Esther) George Putnam, married Nancy Jane, and John Beadnell-Ida Morehouse. Does anyone know of these people or their children? Of course, answers many times only bring along more questions. Gloria Waldron Hukle P.O. Box 818 Averill Park, New York 12018 www.gloriawaldronhukle.name tennake2@aol.com

I have tried to identify this Huldah. I figure she must have been a Lanesborough, MA woman. Unfortunately, the early Lanesborough records burned, so we don't have a lot to go on. Records of births for two women named Huldah are contained in the early Lanesborough records: Huldah Bacon, b. 9 Oct 1761, daughter of Nathaniel and Anna; and Huldah Smith, b. 15 Jun 1757, daughter of Joel and Phebe. I have not been able to trace these women -- but admit I haven't tried strenously. Still, I have always wondered. Cindy Walcott -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Theresa Caparco Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:02 PM To: roblee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROBLEE] will of Thomas Robblee Hello All, Hope everyone is well. There are 3 things I did notice in the will of Thomas. 1- It was made/signed 26 May 1825. 2- Thomas mentions this mysterious Hulda himself as a former wife- not the wife of Luther Roblee as mentioned in our Northup notes. So, that clears up one issue. 3- If the will was probated in 1831- and Abigail is petitioned as an interested party, then she could't have died in July 1825- as has been our family "Lore" Thank-you guys. I think I'm understanding my family a little better now. Wish someone would check on this Chloe Roblee aforementioned, as the possible 1st wife of Reynolds, and her stat's as to birth/death/children? This would then give me a whole picture of my ggg grandfather.(Reynolds) All my graditude, Theresa. PS. Sending photo's of Chloe Everts Northup-Blythe and family Also a pic of one of her son's- Albert W. Blythe with 2 of his cousins-Blythe. Sincerely, Theresa.

Are you thinking that Thomas and Chloe might have had a daughter Chloe that we don't know about? In looking at the family, it doesn't appear we have spaces between any children where another child would fit? Cindy -----Original Message----- From: roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roblee-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bob Robblee Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:37 PM To: Roblee-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROBLEE] Reynold's 3 Wives Hello, All, Is there a possiblility that the first wife of Reynolds Northup might have been Chloe? Roblee, daughter of Thomas Roblee, b 1761 and his first wife? HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here are my notes from Margaret Jenks' book on Granville Cemeteries: page 90 -- "Ingall, Abigail, wife of Truman, died June 1, 1870, age 78 y, 11 m. [Goodspeed -- prob. Abigail Roblee]. This suggests to me that the gravestone does not note here maiden and/or previous name, but Goodspeed (who transcribed many cemeteries on both sides of the Champlain Valley, and probably did this cemetery earlier) thought she was Abigail Roblee. Certainly the age at death fits with our Abigail's known date of birth. But if she was still living all that time, where the heck was she? Cindy

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Bob- Am I the Jean you are referring to? I will be glad to go to Granville( about 60 miles from me) in the spring or early summer and check this out, if possible. It is a lovely ride. Right now, the deceased are under about 39 inches of new snow here and in Granville, probably 29 inches. I can also check out anything needed in the North Creek Cemetery. (about 15 miles from me), come spring. JEAN THOMAS BAKER ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Robblee" <rrobblee@primus.ca> To: <Roblee-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <shelatindances2004@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: [ROBLEE] Abigail Roblee, Reynolds Northup > Hello, All, > I have questions about the materials that Theresa sent us and of > course, we can add further details about Thomas Robblee and Chloe Evarts' > family. I have a copy of his will, and many of the dates came from Lenore > Malinda Roblee. > Was the wife of Calvin Roblee, b 24 May 1787, Laura Evarts? We show > Fanny Frances? > I have Truman Ingalls?as the second husband of Abigail Roblee, bur > Granville. and I have seen this gravesite. We will need Jean to revisit > there and confirm the dates. Theresa believes Abigail is buried in North > Creek. Can you confirm this, Phyllis? I have visited the gravesite of > Thomas and Chloe in Granville and this is the first I have heard of them > being in North Creek. > Was George born in 1797? Source? He may be a stray I have found in the > Census. > Can we contact the folks in Granville and include them in our > discussions? Once again, for me, the folks interested in genealogy have > connected with us and provided tremendous information. HOpe to hear from > you sooh. > Bob > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at > ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

And you don't want to shovel? :) Looks like the North East is getting a taste of what the Rublee's of yore had to handle in their daily lives! Hope you have pictures to show at the reunion! Bergetta in MN where we've had 12 inches of snow so far this season! It's 38 above at 2 pm today! On Feb 20, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Jean Baker wrote: > Bob- Am I the Jean you are referring to? I will be glad to go to > Granville( about 60 miles from me) in the spring or early summer > and check > this out, if possible. It is a lovely ride. Right now, the > deceased are > under about 39 inches of new snow here and in Granville, probably > 29 inches. > I can also check out anything needed in the North Creek Cemetery. > (about 15 > miles from me), come spring. JEAN THOMAS BAKER

Dear Lee & All, One- if you were at all an informed person- you would have already known that ALL families arriving here in the 1600's had to inbreed- as picking's were slim, and the country was sparsely populated well into the 1800's, this country at that time was 90% wilderness, as of the 1800's.Two- All families are inbreed-if you go back far enough into your genealogy, you as well will find that out ! Get yourself an Education, before opening your mouth. Sincerely, Theresa. Lee Carpenter <obwonone1@yahoo.com> wrote: It was not a cooties issue. More an inbreeding issue. One of those family trees with no branches. Theresa Caparco wrote: Hello to Lee & All, Just as a side bar, you know Lee we Roblee-Evarts & Northup's Don't have "cooties'!......anymore... Sincerely, Theresa. Lee Carpenter wrote: I hope those Roblees and Carpenters are not direct relatives...My mom is Susan Diane Roblee, and my dad is William Fredrick Carpenter. My mom's dad was Leland Henry Scott Roblee which seems to be well documented, but I lose my Carpenter history with my Grandfather's dad Fredrick Carpenter. My Grandfather does not like to talk much about him. Gambled away the farm and left home when my Grandfather was 5 years old. Theresa Caparco wrote: Hello Cindy & all, Cindy and All, We Northup's are stewn with "Carpenter's" in our lineage as well. Wonder if its the same family lines as ours ? All Northup/Northrup/Northrop's are from One family line. Northup's-Rhode Island, Northrup's also R.I. and Conn.(CT) and Northrop's from Ct. its just a matter of degree-1st or 2nd cousin's to the original starting point of Rhode Island. Cindy, it would appear that maybe this Truman and wife Susannah were divorced by the end of the 1850's and then married Abigail Roblee-Northup, OR as I have found many times- maybe she was just staying with the Ingalls at the time of the census and the census taker- wrote her in as an Ingall's? You would need to locate a marriage cert. to be sure. At least the search is narrowed down for you 1851-1859, and I would assume within the greater Granville area. I would also check the Mid year census, for NYstate as well, this may provide a little more info/insight in this matter- it would also narrow your search years (i.e.) 1855-1859. Sincerely, Theresa Alger and Walcott Family wrote: Hello Theresa and all our list cousins -- Well, finally, we know who the mysterious Northrup was the husband of Abigail Robblee. I have looked for him off and on for years and have never been able to turn him up. Poured over census for Northrups in Washington Co., looked for an Abigail Northrup in 1850, etc. If Abigail did indeed died so early, that is a good explanation. This does leave us with a little mystery about the supposed wife of Truman Ingalls. I suppose I will have to drag out my files and see what I can find. I will tell you that when I looked into Truman Ingalls, the whole thing didn't make sense to me. My notes say: "She died June 1, 1870 at 78 years and 11 months. She is buried in the Elmwood Cemetery in Middle Granville, NY (Jenks, 1993). In 1850, a Truman Ingalls, age 59, lived in Hebron, NY with wife Susannah, age 57; it doesn't appear Abigail has married Truman Ingalls by that time. In 1860, an Abigail Ingalls, born about 1791, lived in Hebron with her husband Truman Ingalls, born about 1791. It makes sense that Abigail's body would have been brought back to Granville for burial. However, Truman's first wife apparently did not died until 26 Oct 1861-- according to the transcription of the Hebron cemetery. So, all of this is a bit iffy." If the Abigail that we are discussing truly did die so young -- then who is this Abigail who married Truman Ingalls, but not (apparently) until much later in life? I am interested in another "sighting" of a George Robblee. There is a marginal note in the Carpenter manuscript about George, but I have never been able to find a trace of him. Bob, you say you have him as a census stray? When and where? In a separate note, I will include a report on the family of Thomas Robblee - and am open to questions and critique! Cindy Walcott p.s. Now if we can just turn up Mr. Utter, husband of Abigail's sister Melinda! For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. 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It was not a cooties issue. More an inbreeding issue. One of those family trees with no branches. Theresa Caparco <shelatindances2004@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello to Lee & All, Just as a side bar, you know Lee we Roblee-Evarts & Northup's Don't have "cooties'!......anymore... Sincerely, Theresa. Lee Carpenter wrote: I hope those Roblees and Carpenters are not direct relatives...My mom is Susan Diane Roblee, and my dad is William Fredrick Carpenter. My mom's dad was Leland Henry Scott Roblee which seems to be well documented, but I lose my Carpenter history with my Grandfather's dad Fredrick Carpenter. My Grandfather does not like to talk much about him. Gambled away the farm and left home when my Grandfather was 5 years old. Theresa Caparco wrote: Hello Cindy & all, Cindy and All, We Northup's are stewn with "Carpenter's" in our lineage as well. Wonder if its the same family lines as ours ? All Northup/Northrup/Northrop's are from One family line. Northup's-Rhode Island, Northrup's also R.I. and Conn.(CT) and Northrop's from Ct. its just a matter of degree-1st or 2nd cousin's to the original starting point of Rhode Island. Cindy, it would appear that maybe this Truman and wife Susannah were divorced by the end of the 1850's and then married Abigail Roblee-Northup, OR as I have found many times- maybe she was just staying with the Ingalls at the time of the census and the census taker- wrote her in as an Ingall's? You would need to locate a marriage cert. to be sure. At least the search is narrowed down for you 1851-1859, and I would assume within the greater Granville area. I would also check the Mid year census, for NYstate as well, this may provide a little more info/insight in this matter- it would also narrow your search years (i.e.) 1855-1859. Sincerely, Theresa Alger and Walcott Family wrote: Hello Theresa and all our list cousins -- Well, finally, we know who the mysterious Northrup was the husband of Abigail Robblee. I have looked for him off and on for years and have never been able to turn him up. Poured over census for Northrups in Washington Co., looked for an Abigail Northrup in 1850, etc. If Abigail did indeed died so early, that is a good explanation. This does leave us with a little mystery about the supposed wife of Truman Ingalls. I suppose I will have to drag out my files and see what I can find. I will tell you that when I looked into Truman Ingalls, the whole thing didn't make sense to me. My notes say: "She died June 1, 1870 at 78 years and 11 months. She is buried in the Elmwood Cemetery in Middle Granville, NY (Jenks, 1993). In 1850, a Truman Ingalls, age 59, lived in Hebron, NY with wife Susannah, age 57; it doesn't appear Abigail has married Truman Ingalls by that time. In 1860, an Abigail Ingalls, born about 1791, lived in Hebron with her husband Truman Ingalls, born about 1791. It makes sense that Abigail's body would have been brought back to Granville for burial. However, Truman's first wife apparently did not died until 26 Oct 1861-- according to the transcription of the Hebron cemetery. So, all of this is a bit iffy." If the Abigail that we are discussing truly did die so young -- then who is this Abigail who married Truman Ingalls, but not (apparently) until much later in life? I am interested in another "sighting" of a George Robblee. There is a marginal note in the Carpenter manuscript about George, but I have never been able to find a trace of him. Bob, you say you have him as a census stray? When and where? In a separate note, I will include a report on the family of Thomas Robblee - and am open to questions and critique! Cindy Walcott p.s. Now if we can just turn up Mr. Utter, husband of Abigail's sister Melinda! For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at ROBLEE-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBLEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. 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