Date: 24 Apr 98 09:24:21 +0000 From: Mark Roblee <[email protected]> I have been corresponding with Jim Roblee, also from the Mankato Roblee's. My father has a book of research done by Lenore Roblee and I will get that info off to everyone as soon as I can...

>Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:43:09 -0700 >From: [email protected] >... > >Dear Mark [Roblee], > Hope to see the research and conclusions from Lenore [Roblee]. I >have seen various notes from that area and era about, I believe, 50 years >ago. > Do you or anyone else need or wish a copy of Milo Resolvo Roblee's >notes or a copy of the Carpenter genealogy? Let me know and I will get >them off to you. > The route to the past is through the present. A note from Karen E. >Robblee mentions that there are, at present, 400 plus listings for the 3 >various spellings of our family name. Until we can identify all of them >and their roots, we may be missing the clue that leads us to the tie to >the Rubliers of Long Island or the immigrant ancestor. From a similiar >list in Canada, I have identified most of the Robblees and some of the >Roblees. I also track the Rublees here in Western Canada from a similiar >list and I will try to fit them in as well. My father knew a Merritt >Rublee in Wainwright, AB where I was born and they did discuss the >connection then. I hope Dad will make contact again this summer. > Again, hopefully, the bible mentioned to be in the possession of >Helen Roblee Willson of Granville can be found. References to it are >notes from 50 years ago and apparently, it had the family of one of the >Ruben Rob[b]lees. > Another thing I find as a significant common thread is the number >of people named Thomas in the first 100 years of the records of our >family. Not only is it a common thread, but the confusion it continues >to cause will soon sort itself out. ...

>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:57:33 -0700 >From: [email protected] >Subject: Verification >... >Dear Doug, > I've been getting your notes and the system seems to be working >fine. As to my database, it includes most of the work of the folks that >we are now in contact with and as many others that I have contacted over >the years. I have no complaint as to identifying verified material and >that which is speculative. I have as yet to find any Rapalje connection >and I know that speculation has been around for about 100 years. > My best sources of information have been the people whom I have >contacted whom are interested or active, present or past. I believe I >have done so and found most of the old genealogical works as well. I >will get you the notes of Milo R. Roblee and the Carpenter Manuscript. I >also think we need to see all the pertinent DAR files. > My work on the family of John Robblee, married Susannah Baker? >includes his sons William and Joseph. Joyce Atkin of Chico CA. did a lot >of the work back to his son Thomas, married Hannah Delap. Proofs include >marriage licences, gravesites and wills. > Speculation occurs over my placement the Rublier children >christened in Huntington, NY. I can only verify that John and Thomas >were brothers according to Thomas' will of 1796. After that, I think we >need the church records or the land titles for the Putnam and Dutchess, >NY Co.s. if any thing like that still exists. > At the moment, I have not verified the Robbilliard connection. >Many clues, but no primary record found as yet. One thought crosses my >mind, however, that both Rapalje and Robbilliard families were French >Hugenots. > Doug, I will correct my records on Louisa Francelia Roblee and >move >the Detling marriage to its correct generation. > One last thought, I'm curious to see how much scrutiny the >Carpenter manuscript will bear given concerning Ruben's family. >Apparently, a family bible was held by a Jessie Roblee Willson about 50 >years ago. Perhaps, if someone knows where that might be, we could clear >up the Ruben/Thomas families in Granville, Wa. Co. NY. Both were there >according to the 1790 Census and I doubt that the family listed to >Thomas was that of Thomas and Chloe. > Keep me posted >Bob Robblee >

>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:06:33 -0700 >From: Douglas Detling <[email protected]> >Subject: Ancestry >... >Several people have asked me privately how I fit in to the Roblee family, >so thought I would share some info directly with the group. > >Francelia Louise (or sometimes referred to as Louisa Franceline) Roblee, >b. Dec. 9, 1841 in Kendall, Orleans Co., NY is my great-grandmother. >She was the daughter of Norman Roblee, b. January 21, 1815 in Granville, >Washington Co., NY. Norman's wife, Henrietta or Harriet Adelia Soule (I'm >still trying to document her actual name) is likely to be a descendent of >the Mayflower's George Soule, but that remains to be verified. > >Francelia Roblee married Sybrant Fort Brott, b. 1841 in Queensbury. >Warren Co., NY. Brott was a son of Isaac Bradt, who descended from the >original Bradt settlers of New York, whose genealogical history is well >documented in Cynthia Brott Biasca's works. >... >This list's Carol Waldron Thomas ([email protected]) is my 5th cousin >on the Bradt/Brott line, and she's married to another 5th cousin on the >Roblee line. >

>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:38:31 -0700 >From: [email protected] (James Fortier) >Subject: Will of Thomas Robblee >... >Dear Roblee cousins, > >This group email sounds like a great idea. I would like to put my two >sense worth in on the will of Thomas Robblee of 1825. I independently >of the Carpenter manuscript inferred that this Thomas is the youngest >son of Reuben Robblee and Phebe Austin. I also assume that the Samuel >Roblee noted in the Granville deed is the younger brother of this >Thomas Robblee and the husband of Marian Hinckley. Samuel Robblee and >Marian Hinckley are ancestors of mine. > >Jim Fortierf >[email protected]

>From: Jim Roblee <[email protected]> >Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:25:24 -0500 > >... I also concur with Cindy and Lynda about maintaining the integrity of >the Roblee tree database. A great deal of work has gone into what we have >and it is well documented. It would be a shame to taint it now by >dispersing conjecture and speculation throughout . This type of thing can >ruin the whole database and start a false stories which are difficult to >eradicate as can be seen from the supposed "raplaje" connection and the >mystery Thomas Rubbelee Rev war veteran who was supposedly born in >Bennington, VT even before there was a Bennington Vt. >...

>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:46:30 -0700 >From: [email protected] >Subject: Thomas Robblee, 2 wills. >Dear Carol [Thomas], > > Thank you for posting the 2 wills. It has been a while since I >reviewed them and I notice that I have missed something on the will of >Thomas Robblee married Chloe Evarts. It lists a witness by the name of >Thomas Robblee? I wonder who he is? Also in a mortgage given by Samuel >Robblee in 1805 to David Doane, an acre is reserved for Thomas Robblee? > A couple of years ago, when I was sending out family group sheets >to various individuals from lists I had gathered from America Phone, I >sent to a Theron Roblee in the Johnsville area of NY. It was returned to >sender and I just let it go. Can you identify who he is for me? I have >found that all persons in the present are somehow a route to the past. > I finally got Milo R. Roblee's notes from 100 years ago copied and >they should be on their way today. ...

>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:42:04 -0400 >From: [email protected] (Carol Thomas) >... > >I am glad to see this evolve to this the point of having a list for the >ROBLEE/ROBBLEE line. The ROBLEE line is my husband's and although there >were/are many of that family name in the area where we live, no one seems >to know anymore than any of us about their origin. > >I wanted to include two wills: one for Thomas Roblee (who is probably the >one who married his cousin Laura dau. of Thos & Chole); one for Thomas >Robblee who was married to Chole. I apologize if I am sending you old >information, but thought perhaps not everyone had the information. > >Carol Waldron Thomas ([email protected]) > >Washington County Archives pp199-201 > >I Thomas Roblee of the Town of Granville County of Washington and State of >New York hereby make, publish and declare this my last Will and Testament >as follows to wit: First, I give and bequeath to my daughter Ellen Carlton >the sum of four hundred dollars. >To my grandson Joseph Henry Roblee the sum of one thousand and one hundred >dollars >To the Home Missionary Society of the Baptist Church the sum of two hundred >dollars >To the Foreign Missionary Society of the Baptist Church the sum of two >hundred dollars >Second, I give devise and bequeath unto my six children who are now living >and unto the children of my deceased son Henry Roblee all my real estate >and all the rest, residue and remainder of my personal property and estate >of every manner and description to be divided between them as follows viz: >Each one of my said six children to have and receive an equal seventh part >or share thereof and the children of my deceased son Henry to have and >receive the remaining equal undivided one seventh part or share thereof But >I direct that any amount which I may give or may already have given or >advanced or as a portion of my property and for which I may take or shall >take a receipt signed by such legatee shall be deducted from the share >herein given to such legatee but not otherwise >Lastly I appoint my son Hamilton Roblee and my son-in-law David Brown to be >the executors of this my last will and testament and revoke every former >will made by me on witness where of I have hereunto set my hand and seal >this 17th day of March one thousand eight hundred and seventy-six >Thomas Roblee > >and Thomas Robblee: > >Washington County Archives: pp186-189 > >Thomas Robblee's last will & testament >By the will of Heaven and permission of the Almighty I Thomas Robblee of >the Town of Granville in the County of Washington and State of New York >being now some what advanced in years and impaired as to health and >constitution believe myself at this time to be of good sound and sufficient >mind and memory Blessed be the Almighty for the same and having seen and >known too often the costs, troubles, difficulties, time and expense that >many times attend the settlement of the estates of those who die intestate >and I have therefore thought proper hereby to make known to all persons >whomever it may hereafter concern in what manner I wish and devise the >distribution of whatever property I may have at my decease and therefore I >make write and publish this to be my last will and testament in manner and >form as following: That is to say-after all debts, costs, charges and >lawful demands that may be chargeable on my estate I then do hereby will, >order and direct that my now beloved wife Chloe Robblee shall have the >whole of the use and profits of the residue personal and real for and >during the full term of her natural life to use occupy, possess and enjoy >the same without any let or hindrance as to her shall seem good during her >natural life as aforesaid and I further do will order and direct that after >the decease of my wife above named that all my lands or real property be >equally divided between my three sons namely Luther, Calvin and Theron - >and that all the personal property of whatever kind manner or nature it may >consist of at the decease of my wife above named I hereby do will order and >direct to be equally divided between my four daughters namely - Abigail, >Malinda, Polina and Laura and in case of the decease of either of my above >named children previous to the decease of their mother and leaving no issue >such legacy as is above bequeathed to him or her or them as the case may be >shall belong equally to the survivors of him, her or them as the case may >be and whereas in my younger days I was unfortunately compelled to marry a >woman by the name of Huldah - who bore unto me one daughter which former >woman namely Huldah I have heretofore settled with to her satisfaction and >we agreed to separate and I paid into her hands a considerable sum of money >for the education, maintenance and support of the child aforesaid - and >therefore I do not consider it my duty to give or bequeath any of my >present property the the said last mentioned daughter as I have never had >the opportunity of receiving either pleasure from her company or profit >from her labour as the mother took it with her at the time of our >separation and soon after married some other person by which she is >supposed to have deprived herself of any right of dower in case of my >decease and therefore I feel myself justified in bequeathing all my >property to my present wife and children first above named who have each >one according to their abilities borne the burden and been helpfull in >procuring the share and I hereby appoint my beloved wife Cloe as my >executrix and Calvin Robblee my son and Luther Robblee my son as my >executors to this my last will and testament - directing that two of them >be sufficient to act at the time viz - the two first named and in case of >the death or inability of either of the two first named as aforesaid then >the last named to act with the other >In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty sixth >day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty >five - signed seal and published and declared by the above named Thomas >Robblee to be this last will and testament in the presence of us who have >hereunto subscribed our names as witness in presence of the testator >Numon Spicer Thos Robblee >Eunice Comstock >Lydia Baker > >Petition for probate names Luther Robblee, Theron Robblee, Calvin Robblee, >Abiagail Northup, Malinda Utter, Laura Robblee and Polina Case. >

>From: Cindy Walcott <[email protected]> >Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:04:00 -0400 ... >Hello all -- The nice thing about a website is that it is a vehible to >hitch up with other people who are Robblee etc. desc. Who knows - >someone may have information that is the "missing link". ... > >Here is one concern -- if we are going to include information from >gedcoms, I think we will need to have some stiff standards. Right now, >some of us have information in our databases that is ranges from educated >guesses, to theory, to speculation, to guesses. I know I do. I always >put information in my notes that identifies that something is tentative, >or a guess -- partly to remind myself that it is a guess, that basis for >that guess -- and to flag it for more research. When when you put things >in print, publishing to the web gives information an authority it may not >have. Someone reads it, downloads it, and takes it as gospel. So, I >think we would need to limit posted gedcoms to information we feel quite >certain about. Then, perhaps we could have an article that talks about >the theories we have. In my mind, organizing the Huntington baptisms >into families, as Bob [Robblee] has attempted to do, is still in the >realm of theory. Bob has also raised some questions about the Carpenter >manuscript, which are legitimate to ask. >...

>Date: 17 Apr 98 21:43:57 +0000 >From: Mark Roblee <[email protected]> ... >I'm wondering if you have more info on the Roblee or Robblee family. My >grandfather John Edwin Roblee's family is from Mancato MN. The story is >that the Roblee's came from Scotland, of French descent, to Nova Scotia. >Also, I stumble upon a Robley family in Paris. Any suggestions as to how to >continue the search would be most appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Mark Roblee >Shutesbury, MA >413-367-0336

I am going through old e-mail messages from ROBLEE researchers, and will be posting some to our new list at RootsWeb to help other researchers. I've used some discretion to edit to eliminate personal comments, or information not otherwise helpful to others. Otherwise, they are the original messages. For each message forwarded to the new list, I've retained original dates and sender info. >Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:50:54 -0700 >From: [email protected] >...One thing to note is that we have found the >gravesite of John Robblee, married Susannah Baker, in North Wallace, NS [Canada] in the Old Dotten Cem. [Died in 1810]....

Hi, fellow researchers. This is a test message for Brenda Hopkins sand Richard Bolli to make sure they are getting the ROBLEE list materials. Sorry, but I have to use the list to test these. Out of the 32 or so who are using the list, these are two that have bounced sometimes, but I think we've solved the problems. BRENDA - reply to [email protected] to confirm that you got this. If I don't hear from you, I'll have to assume something is still wrong. RICHARD - reply to [email protected] to confirm that you got this. If I don't hear from you, I'll have to assume something is still wrong.

Among others, we're using the following surname variations: ROBLEE, ROBBLEE, RUBLEE, ROBLEYER, RUBLIER Add another to the list, suggested by a new subscriber from Australia. He sent the following message to me personally, but I'm forwarding to the list: "<[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Roblee E-mail addresses Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:28:54 +1000 ... Dear Mr. Detling, My ancestors used the variant ROBLEY, but I hope you'll be able to include them in your Roblee E-mail address list. Details are: Christopher Robley b c1660 probably in Wetheral, Cumbria, UK > Isabella Robley d 15 September 1984 at Summer Hill, NSW Australia. Yours sincerely, John Ross Albury NSW Australia " I'll be adding John to our researchers page.

Testing Jim

Dear All, I would like to welcome William E. Roblee to the group. And I see that his ancestral line leads back to Granville. With no known tie to any of the families that we have documented there. And this is not the first example of this nature. I believe that we will have to expand our search in this area. Probate, land records, census, and church records come to my mind of course. Are this available for this area at an archives somewhere? Have they possibly been destroyed? Has the Mormon Church done any filming at any establishments there? Interestingly enough is the fact we have established a lineage back to Ruben and Phoebe but have as yet to find many facts on the other family, that of Thomas Robblee, married Lydia. It seems that Ruben's family went to Church, bought land and built homes. All of which we can track when we find the paper trails. Very little exists for Thomas and his family and now we have another man, Julius Scott Roblee, born in Granville in 1818 with no ties. It seems that Thomas' family moved on during the period 1800-1825. One other fact I noted at Ancestry.com the other day is the NY Census for 1830 lists 2 Calvin Roblees. One is at North Creek and the other is in the Granville area. I would suggest that one of these is the son of that Thomas. I'm sure it is a matter of time until we find more information needed to sort these families out. HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob

Dear All, I wonder if there still exists land records for Dutchess Co. in the time period 1740-1780 and if there is anyplace that they could be searched. And, of course, would it be possible to place those records onto a map to get an idea of proximity of the owners, as well as the time frame of who owned what, where, and when. Yes, Cindy, I have assumed that Abigail, b 1729, is the daughter of William and Abigail because Andrew is not as yet married at the time of her birth. As to the Abigail in Lanesborough, I see at least 3 possibilities. It is interesting that Andrew Rublier has sold property and is no longer part of the land records of Long Island after 1732. Was he developing a new property in Dutchess County while his family resided with William's? I have also seen old records for Sussex Co. in NJ just to the west of NYC which bear resemblance to the family name. As settlement pushed north along the Hudson, we seem to have no record of Thomas Robblee, 1740-1808, until the war of the revolution. MA has 2 records for men of that name, and one appears to have been Thomas, married Chloe Evarts. Nothing appears in Lanesborough, and the records after seem to indicate he was settled in Shaftsbury, Vt. But, again, after the war, there have been no facts to help establish him or his whereabouts, until 1790, when the US Census notes a Thomas Rubbelee in Washington Co. NY. And we have plenty of errants from this time period which we have as yet to establish in family group[s]. I have seen records for a James Roblyer, b ca 1740, whose descendents now spell their name Raplee, who seems to have moved through Dutchess Co., Orange Co. NY. and ended up in the Yates Co. NY.area. And, of course, this begs the question of where were all these people coming from? Were they related or did they cross paths inadvertently? Perhaps some of the secondary record sources such as land title records and military service records such as Lynda found can help us deduce families and places. I don't know if this helps, but HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob

Hi everyone, It's Saturday AM and I am finally catching up on my email while the coffee kick starts my day. Olive Jane Roblee was the daughter of Milo Rosalvo Roblee, and I show her marrying Louis Merrick Breck on 28 Apr 1897 in Topeka, Kan. As to the notes from Judy Penrith in #45, I show Jay Fitzlove Roblee marrying Eliza Hall in WI in 1846. Their family, as I have it, [and most of the information came from Lenore Roblee's work.] is as follows; Emma Jane Roblee, married David M. Downing and David H. Thompson Laura Anna Roblee, died young Joseph Lyman Roblee, married Effie Crofoot, family of 7 girls Ellen Nancy Roblee, married Buel Anderson, 2 boys. Did Effie refer to Jay's wife Eliza? And is there any additional information about the Lynda Roblee mentioned in your note? I have exact dates and some places if interested. HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob

Hi All, Much has happened this month and I am still trying to comprehend all of it. My daughter, Deanne was to return to Montreal the morning of Sept. 11. They were just leaving here and had heard about the crash into the World Trade Centre. We got the tv on and saw the crashes. And knew the world had just changed. As the day continued, our hearts went out to all those victims, alive and dead. Deanne got back to Montreal the following Friday morning. And I still have one question rattling in the back of my mind about the event. The second tower was hit about 55 minutes after the first plane veered off course and the Pentagon after that. Why did't civil aviation controllers notify the military sooner and possibly prevent the second and third crashes? The heroes on the Pennsylvania flight had time and acted, I believe. I hope that the authorities investigating this tragedy find all the evidence needed to bring the culprits to justice and that that will happen. I had a note from Edward M. Robblee about a sudden death in his family. His daughter, Angela, passed away about 10 days ago, leaving 3 children. As I pass this on to the list, I hope for Ed and his family, that the path after this passing will be as smooth as possible. And on a genealogical note, while wandering around on the internet, I have found some information on people that may be related but that I cannot place. Frances Roblee, b 12 Oct 1911, Malden, MA. d 18 Jan 1992, Naples, FL married George Belyea, b 1903 Cambridge, MA. d 1976, Naples, FL. Their daughter Kathy, married Richard Patrick Keogh. Edna Roblee, b ca 1890, married Jefferson Fulton, b 19 Oct 1862, Ark. d 1952. Beatrice Angela Roblee, b ca 1890, married 1 Jan 1950, Richard Capel Breckett, b 4 Dec 1886- 15 Jan 1954. Problably a second marriage. Susan Roblee married Alfred Paul Britton Jr. Family of 4, Holly Fane, Mary Hannah, Joshua Paul, Joyce Carissa. James John Roblee married Marcia Ann Lanphear. Family is James [Jamie] Christopher married Deidta Dedee Moulton, son Jerry Wesley Roblee Karen Roblee, married Ralph Dafoe, second Bill Andrews, and has a daughter, Ashleigh Andrews. Beatrice Roblee married Robert Cassidy. Any information on these would be appreciated. I hope our leaders have the grit necessary to bring the perpetrators of Sept. 11 to justice and that safeguards will be enacted to prevent a reoccurance. Our airports need better security measures and airliners need to be equipped to allow the operating personell some means of defending themselves against such acts. HOPe to hear from you soon. Bob

Dear Lynda and All, Again, privacy takes to the forefront. I have been checking my files and I can't locate any persons of 100 years of age or older that are still with us. And I have death dates for most of them. The Gedcom I submit will not have families born across the 1890-1910 time period. Persons seeking relationships after 1890-1900 will have to contact me, which will put things on the same exchange basis as I have now. The interesting thing to me about the privacy issue is thus. Much of what I have discovered in the present time has been taken from phone books. Only twice in making phone calls across the continent have I been received cautiously but in both cases got the name of the person's grandfather without any other pertinent information. Other information I have about them was available through public sources. And I have yet to phone those folks back. Much of what we do as genealogists is derived from public records and noone has been "bugged" to supply personal information. Most of us get bothered more by phone solictors from charities and service providers. In the past, those of whom I requested information by mail that didn't wish to have me know about them, didn't return the packages. That left public sources as the only information available. Perhaps their children or grandchildren will wish to help in future years and the only sorrow of that is that we lose the "living record"; the personal contacts and memories. Please let me know if there is anyone out there who wishs that their relatives born more than 100 years ago "need" to be exempted. HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob

Dear Cindy and All, I have a copy of Calnek's book and can relate any pertinent information from it as requested. A niece of his married Isiah Wallace Robblee and removed from Nova Scotia to Manitoba. Part of that family still resides in the Swan River area of that province. Hope this helps and HOpe to hear from you soon. Bob