This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joelrobinson5000 Surnames: Robinson, Robertson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.robinson/10292/mb.ashx Message Board Post: For those that have been waiting for this, including me, we now have 37 markers for a descendant of Christopher Robinson. One disappointment for me is he is way off from me. But, we have figured out another major VA family and that is what is important. You can see his 37 markers at this link: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/robinson/default.aspx?vgroup=robinson&section=ycolorized Go to the very bottom under "ungrouped." We still are awaiting another 30 markers, but this 37 marker group has no matches on FTDNA - not even as far out as 3 mismatches. This proves the point that Helen has been saying all along - submit your ydna if you think you belong the this family. Right now it does not appear anyone has. Oh, btw, his haplogroup is R1b1a2. Assuming, as I do, the lineage for this submission is correct, then the Shafer entry on FTDNA cannot be tied to Christopher because we are talking about a completely different haplogroup. As I've said before, I don't think the paper trail works for that family being attached to Christopher. Joel Robinson Charlotte, NC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.