Joel, if it doesn't match you and it doesn't match my cousin John, i think perhaps we have to consider the possibility of a nonpaternal event. One really does need triangulation in a matter of this sort, so until we have another person submitting a Y DNA sample with some kind of a trail that someone at least considers to be valid, we should think of this as still being up in the air, and even then we need another sample from that line. (R1b1a2 is, of course, very common for that area and should be expected. The I1 seen in my family is much less so. It shows up in my Robinson line and in my Brecht/Bright line from Germany. Neither of those would be expected.) b (betsy shafer, nee betsy collins) Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:42:55 -0000 > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ROBINSON] Chris Robinson "Hewick" ydna > To: <ROBINSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1332445323.909329@rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: joelrobinson5000 > Surnames: Robinson, Robertson > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.robinson/10292/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > For those that have been waiting for this, including me, we now have 37 > markers for a descendant of Christopher Robinson. One disappointment for > me is he is way off from me. But, we have figured out another major VA > family and that is what is important. > > You can see his 37 markers at this link: > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/robinson/default.aspx?vgroup=robinson&section=ycolorized > > Go to the very bottom under "ungrouped." > > We still are awaiting another 30 markers, but this 37 marker group has no > matches on FTDNA - not even as far out as 3 mismatches. This proves the > point that Helen has been saying all along - submit your ydna if you think > you belong the this family. Right now it does not appear anyone has. > > Oh, btw, his haplogroup is R1b1a2. Assuming, as I do, the lineage for > this submission is correct, then the Shafer entry on FTDNA cannot be tied > to Christopher because we are talking about a completely different > haplogroup. As I've said before, I don't think the paper trail works for > that family being attached to Christopher. > > Joel Robinson > Charlotte, NC > >