From: Betspix Betspix To: Helen B Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:05 PM Subject: Re: hewick1@yahoo.com / Robinson Rootsweb Admin >>________________________________ >>From: Betspix >>To: >>Cc: hewick1@yahoo.com >>Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:08 PM >>Subject: >> >>dear Joel and Helen >> >>i see some discussion of my mother's line back to Christopher Robinson on the Robinson Rootsweb list, which for some reason i can't figure out how to post to . . . >> >>i will be happy to supply whatever information i have (below is one entry to my notes on this subject) - just ask for the pieces you want, as figuring out your line, Joel, confuses me unnecessarily (and i am easily confused!) (all the male relatives i've found to have tested seem to be haplogroup I, which is certainly not typical for the British Isles or for the European mainland . . . for the most part) >> >> i copy for you the discussion i refer to . . . then add one piece of info i have >> >>b (Cupertino, CA, proud daughter of a Wake County Tarheel - my father) >> >>From: Helen B <hewick1@yahoo.com> >>Subject: Re: [ROBINSON] Wm Robinson d1792 Spots Co >>Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT) >>References: >>In-Reply-To: >>Joel, >> >>I looked up Fanny Berry who md a Robinson and found this; >> >>John Roberson b abt 1777 d aft 1802 prob in KY, md on 22 June 1802 in Clark Co., KY to Fanny Grant Berry b abt 1781 and also found: >> >>J. V. Robinson b 1798 VA, d 1886 KY md to Fannie Berry b 1803 VA d 1856 KY, had son J. V. Robinson b 1823 Fayette Co., KY >> >>I found Mildred Burbridge who md 1st Hezekiah Estes, he d in 1771 in Spots., Co., VA, she md 2nd bef 1790 Benjamin Robinson 1752-1832. He was b 17 Dec 1752 in Spots Co., VA ad d 13 Apr 1835 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., KY, the s/o William Robinson & Sarah Smith. >> ................................... >> >>My youngest daughters descend from William Robinson b 1709 d 1792 in Spots Co., VA, had son Benjamin Robinson b abt 1760 Spots Co., VA d 24 Nov 1825 Spots Co., VA but he md Catherine Parker b 1764 Spots Co., VA d 11 Oct 1854 Spots Co., VA.. I do not find another marriage for them. >> >>Helen Nichols Murphy Battleson, Coronado, CA 92118 - hewick1@yahoo.com / Robinson Rootsweb Admin >> >>From: Joel Robinson >>>To: hewick1@yahoo.com >>>Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:40 AM >>>Subject: Wm Robinson d1792 Spots Co >>> >>> >>>Hi Helen, >>> >>>I'm still having problems with what my ydna is and what is listed for Chris R. My Thos Robinson was in Spots Co at the same time as John R (the speakers father) and my Thos R dealt with the same folks. Here are the docs: >>> >>>3 Jun 1735 John Waller of Spotsylvania Co to his son Wm Waller. Deed of Gift 274 1/2A in Spotsylvania Co on ridge bet Matapony and Pamunkey Riv, etc. Wit: Thomas Carr Jr, B. Waller, Edmund Waller, Thomas Robinson. Rec DB C 1 Jul 1735 Spotsylvania Co VA. >>> >>>4 May 1736 Henry Chiles of Spotsylvania Co and Mercy his wife and John Chiles of King William Co to Humphrey Hill of St Margaret's Par King William Co, Merchant 400A in St Geo Par Spotsylvania Co part of a patent granted Henry Webber 28 Oct 1723, etc. Wit: John Waller, Wm Waller, Thomas Robinson, Wm Hansford, Chs Barrett. Rec DB C 6 July 1736 Spotsylvania Co VA. >>> >>>4 Dec 1736 John Waller of Spotsylvania Co Gent to Zachary Lewis of same Gent 414A in Spotsylvania Co 397A part thereof of patent granted Jno Waller Jr 28 Sep 1728 and conveyed by him to sd Jno Waller as by deeds 23 and 24 Jun 1730 residue thereof part of a tract granted to sd Waller 21 Feb 1720 then in King William Co. Wit: Wm Waller, Thomas Robinson, Edmund Waller. Rec DB C 7 Dec 1736 Spotsylvania Co VA. >>> >>>And then this one in Caroline Co: >>> >>>Order Bk 1732-1740 Pg 488 14 Jul 1738. The last will and testament >>and codicil of Thomas Carr Gent. was presented in Court by Mary >>Carr, John Carr, Agnes Waller and Sarah Minor, executrix and >>executors therein named and proved by the oaths of John Waller and Thos. Robinson and affirmation of Chs. Goodall. >>> >>>Now my problem. The person on FTDNA that has submitted ydna and claimed lineage from Chris R is a long ways off from mine - in fact, the haplogroups is completely different. Here is what they have submitted: >>> >>> >>>John Robinson (b.c. 1620), Kit #119774 >>>Descendant Chart >>>Robinson DNA Surname Project >>>Descendants of John Robinson and Elizabeth Potter >>> >>>John Robinson who married Elizabeth Potter >>> Was the father of >>>Christopher Robinson (1645, Cleasby, Yorkshire, England) who married Agatha Bertram Obert >>> Was the father of >>>John Robinson (1685, Middlesex, Virginia) who married Catherine Beverley >>> Was the father of >>>William Robinson (25 May 1709, Middlesex, Virginia - 13 May 1792 in Spotsylvania Co., VA) who married Agnes Smith >>> Was the father of >>>Benjamin Robinson who married Mildred Burbridge >>> Was the father of >>>John Robinson who married Fanny G. Berry >>> >>>The Benj above is what I have a problem with. For the life of me I can't understand where they get their info. I can find Benj in Wms will, but the Burbridge doesn't pan out for me or that son - maybe I'm missing something. >>> >>>I really doubt my Thos R was a son of John R but, Benj R did have a son named Thos that no one has found. The records from these counties are mostly gone, as you well know, and so I'm not sure I can prove a paper trail. Thus, the need for ydna. >>> >>>Your thoughts, please. >>> >>>Thanks. >>> >>>Take Care, >>> >>>Joel Robinson >>>Charlotte, NC >>> >>e-mail from Joan Clifford - rec'd 9/9/08 >> >>The Robinson children mentioned in the Ellis Bible transcription mentioned was sent to me by Margaret Luella Shipp Henley, a descendant of William Ellis, eldest son of Mildred Robinson, widow of Hezekiah Ellis and daughter of Thomas Burbridge of Spotsylvania Co., Va. It has the earmarks of being written down from memory, as the errors it contains don't seem like common transcription errors. It has Nancy Robinson marrying Boswell Mitchell and Susan (Susannah) marrying Richard Mitchell but in fact it was Susannah who married Boswell Mitchell and Nancy who married Richard Mitchell. But the worse error is that it doesn't mention John Robinson as a son of Benjamin and Mildred Robinson. >> >>There is no doubt that Benjamin Robinson (1752-1835) had a son named John. Deed records make it clear--there is even a deed of 24 October 1812 (Deed book G, pages 198-199) in which Benjamin is transferring land to John Robinson and calls him "son." . . . Thomas Berry, Jr.'s, estate records mention Benjamin Robinson and Joseph Robinson as being the fathers of two John Robinsons who have notes due Thomas Berry, Jr.. The estate settlement even says "John Robinson (husband of Fanny)" . . . Also the final heirs sale of the remaining land of Benjamin Robinson in Fayette Co. lists "John Robinson and Fanny." >>Regards, >>Joan
Is there a George Robinson, born abt 1796 KY, connected to ANY of these Robinsons? > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:49:35 -0800 > From: hewick1@yahoo.com > To: robinson@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROBINSON] Robinson Query > > From: Betspix Betspix > To: Helen B > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: > > hewick1@yahoo.com / Robinson Rootsweb Admin > > >>________________________________ > >>From: Betspix > >>To: > >>Cc: hewick1@yahoo.com > >>Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:08 PM > >>Subject: > >> > >>dear Joel and Helen > >> > >>i see some discussion of my mother's line back to Christopher Robinson on the Robinson Rootsweb list, which for some reason i can't figure out how to post to . . . > >> > >>i will be happy to supply whatever information i have (below is one entry to my notes on this subject) - just ask for the pieces you want, as figuring out your line, Joel, confuses me unnecessarily (and i am easily confused!) (all the male relatives i've found to have tested seem to be haplogroup I, which is certainly not typical for the British Isles or for the European mainland . . . for the most part) > >> > >> i copy for you the discussion i refer to . . . then add one piece of info i have > >> > >>b (Cupertino, CA, proud daughter of a > Wake County Tarheel - my father) > >> > >>From: Helen B <hewick1@yahoo.com> > >>Subject: Re: [ROBINSON] Wm Robinson d1792 Spots Co > >>Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT) > >>References: > >>In-Reply-To: > >>Joel, > >> > >>I looked up Fanny Berry who md a Robinson and found this; > >> > >>John Roberson b abt 1777 d aft 1802 prob in KY, md on 22 June 1802 in > Clark Co., KY to Fanny Grant Berry b abt 1781 and also found: > >> > >>J. V. Robinson b 1798 VA, d 1886 KY md to Fannie Berry b 1803 VA d 1856 KY, had son J. V. Robinson b 1823 Fayette Co., KY > >> > >>I found Mildred Burbridge who md 1st Hezekiah Estes, he d in 1771 in > Spots., Co., VA, she md 2nd bef 1790 Benjamin Robinson 1752-1832. He was > b 17 Dec 1752 in Spots Co., VA ad d 13 Apr 1835 in Crab Orchard, > Lincoln Co., KY, the s/o William Robinson & Sarah Smith. > >> ................................... > >> > >>My youngest daughters descend from William Robinson b 1709 d 1792 in > Spots Co., VA, had son Benjamin Robinson b abt 1760 Spots Co., VA d 24 > Nov 1825 Spots Co., VA but he md Catherine Parker b 1764 Spots Co., VA d > 11 Oct 1854 Spots Co., VA.. I do not find another marriage for them. > >> > >>Helen Nichols Murphy Battleson, Coronado, CA 92118 - hewick1@yahoo.com / Robinson Rootsweb Admin > >> > >>From: Joel Robinson > >>>To: hewick1@yahoo.com > >>>Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:40 AM > >>>Subject: Wm Robinson d1792 Spots Co > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi Helen, > >>> > >>>I'm still having problems with what my ydna is and what is listed > for Chris R. My Thos Robinson was in Spots Co at the same time as John R > (the speakers father) and my Thos R dealt with the same folks. Here > are the docs: > >>> > >>>3 Jun 1735 John Waller of Spotsylvania Co to his son Wm Waller. Deed > of Gift 274 1/2A in Spotsylvania Co on ridge bet Matapony and Pamunkey > Riv, etc. Wit: Thomas Carr Jr, B. Waller, Edmund Waller, Thomas > Robinson. Rec DB C 1 Jul 1735 Spotsylvania Co VA. > >>> > >>>4 May 1736 Henry Chiles of Spotsylvania Co and Mercy his wife and > John Chiles of King William Co to Humphrey Hill of St Margaret's Par > King William Co, Merchant 400A in St Geo Par Spotsylvania Co part of a > patent granted Henry Webber 28 Oct 1723, etc. Wit: John Waller, Wm > Waller, Thomas Robinson, Wm Hansford, Chs Barrett. Rec DB C 6 July 1736 > Spotsylvania Co VA. > >>> > >>>4 Dec 1736 John Waller of Spotsylvania Co Gent to Zachary Lewis of > same Gent 414A in Spotsylvania Co 397A part thereof of patent granted > Jno Waller Jr 28 Sep 1728 and conveyed by him to sd Jno Waller as by > deeds 23 and 24 Jun 1730 residue thereof part of a tract granted to sd > Waller 21 Feb 1720 then in King William Co. Wit: Wm Waller, Thomas > Robinson, Edmund Waller. Rec DB C 7 Dec 1736 Spotsylvania Co VA. > >>> > >>>And then this one in Caroline Co: > >>> > >>>Order Bk 1732-1740 Pg 488 14 Jul 1738. The last will and testament > >>and codicil of Thomas Carr Gent. was presented in Court by Mary > >>Carr, John Carr, Agnes Waller and Sarah Minor, executrix and > >>executors therein named and proved by the oaths of John Waller and Thos. Robinson and affirmation of Chs. Goodall. > >>> > >>>Now my problem. The person on FTDNA that has submitted ydna and > claimed lineage from Chris R is a long ways off from mine - in fact, the > haplogroups is completely different. Here is what they have submitted: > >>> > >>> > >>>John Robinson (b.c. 1620), Kit #119774 > >>>Descendant Chart > >>>Robinson DNA Surname Project > >>>Descendants of John Robinson and Elizabeth Potter > >>> > >>>John Robinson who married Elizabeth Potter > >>> Was the father of > >>>Christopher Robinson (1645, Cleasby, Yorkshire, England) who married Agatha Bertram Obert > >>> Was the father of > >>>John Robinson (1685, Middlesex, Virginia) who married Catherine Beverley > >>> Was the father of > >>>William Robinson (25 May 1709, Middlesex, Virginia - 13 May 1792 in Spotsylvania Co., VA) who married Agnes Smith > >>> Was the father of > >>>Benjamin Robinson who married Mildred Burbridge > >>> Was the father of > >>>John Robinson who married Fanny G. Berry > >>> > >>>The Benj above is what I have a problem with. For the life of me I > can't understand where they get their info. I can find Benj in Wms > will, but the Burbridge doesn't pan out for me or that son - maybe I'm > missing something. > >>> > >>>I really doubt my Thos R was a son of John R but, Benj R did have a > son named Thos that no one has found. The records from these counties > are mostly gone, as you well know, and so I'm not sure I can prove a > paper trail. Thus, the need for ydna. > >>> > >>>Your thoughts, please. > >>> > >>>Thanks. > >>> > >>>Take Care, > >>> > >>>Joel Robinson > >>>Charlotte, NC > >>> > >>e-mail from Joan Clifford - rec'd 9/9/08 > >> > >>The Robinson children mentioned in the Ellis Bible transcription mentioned was sent to me by Margaret Luella Shipp Henley, a descendant of William Ellis, eldest son of Mildred Robinson, widow of Hezekiah Ellis and daughter of Thomas Burbridge of Spotsylvania Co., Va. It has the earmarks of being written down from memory, as the errors it contains don't seem like common transcription errors. It has Nancy Robinson marrying Boswell Mitchell and Susan (Susannah) marrying Richard Mitchell but in fact it was Susannah who married Boswell Mitchell and Nancy who married Richard Mitchell. But the worse error is that it doesn't mention John Robinson as a son of Benjamin and Mildred Robinson. > >> > >>There is no doubt that Benjamin Robinson (1752-1835) had a son named John. Deed records make it clear--there is even a deed of 24 October 1812 (Deed book G, pages 198-199) in which > Benjamin is transferring land to John Robinson and calls him "son." . . . Thomas Berry, Jr.'s, estate records mention Benjamin Robinson and Joseph Robinson as being the fathers of two John Robinsons who have notes due Thomas Berry, Jr.. The estate settlement even says "John Robinson (husband of Fanny)" . . . Also the final heirs sale of the remaining land of Benjamin Robinson in Fayette Co. lists "John Robinson and Fanny." > >>Regards, > >>Joan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROBINSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message