All you list are shown in both Pioneer Lewis Families 1989 and Mormon Archives (Ancestral File) except that your Jabez D. Lewis is shown as John D. Lewis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. Subj: [RIWASHIN] LEWIS and YORK Families in WESTERLY, WASHINGTON CO, RHODE ISLAND  Date: 5/24/2003 9:40:23 AM Pacific Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:qntara@aol.com">qntara@aol.com</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com">RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com">RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: YORK, LEWIS, FOSTER, AND WYETH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XcB.2ACE/324 Message Board Post: I am looking for any info on the LEWIS Families and the YORK Families who lived in WESTERLY, WASHINGTON CO, RHODE ISLAND for a time. They also lived in  NORTH STONINGTON, CT for a time.Some of what I do have is: I am looking for a ZEBULON LEWIS (1734 - 1826) who married MARY YORK (1757-1828) MARY YORK was born 1757 in STONINGTON, NEW LONDON CO, CT ZEBULON LEWIS was born in WESTERLY, WASHINGTON CO, RI They had several children including: ZEBULON LEWIS, JR.- born January 1779(Petersburg, NY); died May 1862(Hope, NY) SIMEON LEWIS - born 1780 (Petersbugh, NY); died in PA DAVID LEWIS - born February 1782(Petersburg, NY); died August 1867 (location ?) JABEZ YORK LEWIS - born May 1790(Petersburg, NY); died February 1884(Williamstown, Berkshire, MA) PHOEBE CRAWFORD LEWIS - born 1796(Petersburg, NY) POLLY MAXSON LEWIS - born 1798 (Petersburg, NY) SARAH BROWN LEWIS - born 1798 (Petersburg, NY) STEPHEN LEWIS - born 1802 (Petersburg,  NY) I WOULD APPRECIATE ANYONE WITH ANY INFO WHO CAN CONFIRM ANY OF THE ABOVE INFORMATION TO PLEASE CONTACT ME WITH WHAT SOURCE DATA YOU MAY HAVE ON THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEIR BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, DEATHS, AND CHILDREN! My Line from the above is through the son of Jabez who married Lydia Foster and had the following children: Charles Byron Lewis (b 10/18/1839 in Johnston, Ohio; died February 3, 1892 in Newark, Licking County, OHIO) Jabez D. Lewis (b 04/28/1842 in Licking County, OHIO) Albert B. Lewis (b 04/18/1845 in Licking County, OHIO) John Wesley Lewis (b 10/22/1831 in Petersburg, NY) David F. Lewis (b 11/03/1826 in Williamstown, MA) Harriet N. Lewis (b 07/18/1824 in Williamstown, MA) Delia Lewis (b 06/16/1822 in Williamstown, MA) Franklin Foster Lewis (b 09/09/1820 in Williamstown, MA) Again, anyone who has any info or could verify any of this info with source documents, please contact me. I have the parents of Jabez Lewis being Zebulon Lewis and Mary York. Jabez Lewis and Lydia Foster's son, Charles Byron is my line. Charles Byron Lewis married Eunice Kendall Wyeth. Thanks to all you researchers and fellow genealogists! FAMILY NAMES: YORK, LEWIS, FOSTER, AND WYETH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Money, Gardiner, Perry, Mooney Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/339.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have been hoping to get some time to dig deeper in to some of the resources I have in my library. I have not had much success. So I just have to sit down and do it. I would like the additional dates you mentioned. I also had hoped that someone else would have picked up on the River Bend Cemetery date discrepancy. I show Asahel, Gardiner (married), son of William and Mary, b 14 May 1791 in Exeter, d Nov 1877 in Charlestown. (Beaman, RIVR, NS, 8:258.) I have a Money genealogy compiled by Earl Crandall in 1993. He starts the line with John Allen Money, s/o of Timothy and Eleanor (Brown) Money. John Allen Money b 1793 in Exeter, d 1877 in Charlestown. I mention this because Susan Money/Mooney is the same generation and could be a dau of Timothy. Arnold's, VR, show the marriage of Timothy and Eleanor in 1792 in Exeter. Timothy was the s/o Samuel. Arnold records the birth of a Samuel (not necessarily Timothy's father) in 1747, s/o Robert and Sarah. Samuel also had a brother Joseph. Beaman, RIVR, NS, 4:214. Robert Money is probably the unnamed son of Samuel mentioned in a 1752 will in Exeter. Samuel with wife Priscilla names a son Timothy in his will dated 1819, Exeter. But Samuel, s/o Samuel and Priscilla had a son Timothy mentioned his will, 1819, Exeter. Since Susan and Asael m in Griswold, CT, are they listed in Barber's records? Barber may show parentage. Barber is available on microfilm at many genealogy libraries and at Family History Centers. I couldn't find Asahel listed in the index of the Gardiner gen by Robinson. There are too many Williams for me to check them all out, but Asahel's parents may be there. Take a look in Robinson for William and Mary in a good genealogy library or on microfilm at a FHC. I have some notes on a "lost" Perry line somewhere in my files. I haven't worked on them for a long time, so I would have to dig deep to find them. But I couldn't place Charles R. in the Perry genealogy I compiled in 1993. I don't know if he is part of this lost line. Your family in Westerly/Carolina may be able to check the River Bend cemetery dates and stones. If I remember correctly, Westerly Town Hall has a listing of burials in River Bend. I have both Gardiner and Perry descent -- covered in the 1993 genealogy I compiled. The Money line is closely related and I tried to trace the line back. Earl Crandall (now deceased) also was interested in the Money family -- hence the genealogy he compiled. Money and Mooney would be equivalent (i.e. the same) names 150+ years ago. Also don't overlook Morey as a possible misspelling or alternate spelling. Although the Morey lines do appear to be distinct from the Money lines. Bill Wright

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/339.1.1 Message Board Post: I am descended from Mary Anne Gardiner & Charles R. Perry (another "dead end"). Source of SMG death is my mothers notes...She grew up in Westerly/Carolina and I still have family there. I my have inputed it wrong. Like you say easy to read 80 rather then 89 I'll take a look at my handwritten notes which are better then my typing. However, I do know she was alive when he died as also have copy of bills from stone cutter for his grave. I knew that Julia Kenyon was a sister but did not know of the other two. Julia'a only child died young so didn't persue that line for info. Probably will dig for the info just to make sure they are remembered. Comment...Spelling of Mooney?? I have a copy of a letter written about time of Civil War to her from her brother in which he sends her share of their fathers estate without naming him, of course, or specifing where or when he died.. The letter mentions brothers by name and sisters as a generic term. The problem is that the letter is headed "New Lebanon". no state. Any way he signs it with the Mooney spelling. Anyway thanks for info on the brother and sisters. I'll dig into my notes and find the specific info on dates if you need them. Any other info you can pick up around would be wonderful. Thanks for your response. Barbara

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Perry, Money, Mooney, Gardiner, Kenyon, Arnold Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/339.1 Message Board Post: Asael Gardiner and his wife Susan Money (note spelling of her surname) are buried in River Bend Cem, Westerly. I copied the information from the stones 12 years ago, yestereday (9/7/91) Asael d 9 Nov 1878, aged 87. Susan Money d 8 Mar 1880, age 83. Also in River bend are Mary A. Gardiner wf of Charles R. Perry, d 6 June 1903, 82/5/14 and Charles R. Perry, d 23 June 1872, 55/9/9. Mary A. was the dau of Asael and Susan. Are you descended from her or another child? >From Charlestown records Mary A. Perry was appointed the administrator of the estate of Asahel Gardiner. Other children appear to have been: Julia Kenyon, Lucy Arnold, and Asahel F. Gardner of North Kingstown, RI, or North Stonington, CT. What is your source of the date of Susan's death as 1889? Did I read the gravestone wrong? Easy to do -- to read 1880 rather than 1889?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XcB.2ACE/202.2 Message Board Post: Am looking for ancestors of a Lewis Slocum, my husband's great great grandfather. Oral family history maintains he was a descendant of Frances Slocum and a Miami Indian, but also half Cherokee. All of his descendants are in Indiana, but he reportedly died in Missouri, having been thrown from a horse. He died sometime after 1864, as that's when my husband's great grandmother was born. Any information would be appreciated.

Hi, According to Beaman's RI Vital Records, Volume 8, an Asahel Gardiner was born 14 May 1791 in Exeter to William and Mary (--) Gardiner. He died 9 Nov 1877 in Charlestown, RI. I am not sure which William this might be. Donna in RI

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/339 Message Board Post: Asael Gardiner b. 1791 Exeter RI m. Susan Mooney 5/10/1818 in Griswold CT She died 1889 in RI Looking for parents or siblings for either or both.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hart, Sherman, Taber, Bateman, Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/329.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I have Joseph Hart's will (1794). If you are interested, email me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hart, Sherman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/338 Message Board Post: Is Darius Hart (born 25 Sep 1806 in Middletown, RI) on your "tree" or just in data base? Need info on his father, David.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/329.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That should read 1880 census, not 1889. Robin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XcB.2ACE/329.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Norm, I found a Samuel H. Hart (born about 1817 in RI) in the 1889 census. He was living with Meseneth Perry in Tauton, Bristol, MA. I don't know if this helps. I have a Darius Hart (born 25 Sep 1806 in Middletown, RI) in my data base. He was the son of David and Elizabeth Sherman Hart. Darius married 1st Hannah Bowen and 2nd Lucretia C. Rose. Good Luck, Robin

Hi Cousin Geneva! R.E.: Daniel Steadman... This sounds so interesting! Do you know where Daniel Steadman lived/did business? Have you seen this journal yourself? Any feel for his near cousins and uplines? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geneva Malenfant" <genevatm@comcast.net> To: <RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: [RIWASHIN] Daniel Steadman > I have just read of a recently pubished book by the RI Geneological Society of the journal or diary of Daniel Steadman. Henry Oatley, who had the journal in his possesion, transcribed it and the Society had it published. Steadman began the journal in 1826 and kept it until 1859. The book cites abut 3360 RI names and is indexed. Steadman,his father and grandfather were shoemakers, although with the advent of manufatured shoes Steadman did other things to make a living. The journal is available for $37.00 plus shipping of $3.50. RI Geneological Society, PO Box433, Greenville, RI, 02828. > > > ==== RIWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have just read of a recently pubished book by the RI Geneological Society of the journal or diary of Daniel Steadman. Henry Oatley, who had the journal in his possesion, transcribed it and the Society had it published. Steadman began the journal in 1826 and kept it until 1859. The book cites abut 3360 RI names and is indexed. Steadman,his father and grandfather were shoemakers, although with the advent of manufatured shoes Steadman did other things to make a living. The journal is available for $37.00 plus shipping of $3.50. RI Geneological Society, PO Box433, Greenville, RI, 02828.

RE: Order of accuracy of Washington County RI genealogical sources, May I thank everyone for their contributions to the list to date on this subject? To me, at least, the collective wisdom from experience which is apparent behind the responses...truly delights and amazes me...the "common sense" behind some of them impresses me after the fact(why didn't I think of that one!)...but I take these observations to be the happy result of some years of experience at this work...thank you, thank you, thank you! I was just wondering if others out there shared any of my frustrations...for example, I am....miles away from town records, so don't have the opportunity to dig up primary data as I would like. Further....just as I find that the data I massage...takes a differing direction as it evolves...and as I learn, bit by bit...better ways to do this work....I find that my perception of what records are more important than others, and how they might rank...changes imperceptibly but steadily as well...and so I find myself with revision work...which, if I knew better what I was doing when I started...or had learned from others' experiences...would not be necessary...revision work which keeps me from helping myself and others with more primary research... But most of all...I...can't help thinking that...in this age of the internet and relational databases, that all of this work could be done so much more easily....for all of us...by all of us...if there were in one place, an...evolving...standard of genealogical records accuracy...a..."grid", if you will, which...we could all "hang our hat on", so to speak, sort of like...the established rules for footnoting and bibliography citing for research dissertations...so that we all could begin to contribute to a centralized database...the combined compilation and accessibility of which would benefit everyone...and one which would be flexible enough to have its entries modified at any future point where...better primary information corrects a prior entry... (I also see a point where...regional histories and public records accounts are transcribed on database so that we can not only build from the first database a gencom of (our own) lines that we are researching, but also correlate our uplines to the historical events which shaped their lives, and by extension, gives ours a profounder sense of...meaning. As I mentioned recently at the Pettaquamscutt Historical Society, I can't help envisioning a time when we can use database tools to....personalize....local Washington County history...by not only generating a personalized upline for any visitor whose ancestors lived here...an upline record which includes the individuals from whom one descends, but also lists what they DID, and how their lives relate to the events which transpired here. (A fifth grader, for example, might conceivably be pretty bored with the topic of the second Continental Congress...but would she/he not be more excited about it if he/she knew that their x-great uncle was a delegate...and further knew the local circumstances under which he was appointed? Wouldn't U. S. history be much more meaningful..."real" to him/her, if such a personal family connection can/could be shown?) This second possibility could be the happy result if volunteers were not only to help transcribe primary local genealogical records, but also the pages and pages of worn, dusty documents of local history of limited accessibility...onto a searchable database---imagine for example running a search function for any given local individual in your upline, or in the upline you are researching, and getting...almost immediately...every local newspaper entry...every vital statistics record....every probate court record...every local church record....every private journal...every family bible transcription conceivably available ...of that person, in one search data stream? Does such a goal seem useful to anyone else? Does it seem possible? Would any one of us contribute to it by transcription voluntarily, if a workable "shell" was set up for it on-line? Appreciatively, as always, Barry Hale Browning P.S. If you will all give me a bit of time to do it, may I attempt to make a short compilation of everyone's suggestions to date?

Hi Barry & Bill - I would assume that by "Barbour's" Barry is referring to the Barbour Index which is a town by town listing of pre-1850 vital records for Connecticut. It is a masterful compliation and I have found only a few minor errors in the transcriptions. Of course this is not to say that there weren't errors in the originals which were copied. Speaking of town vitals, just as with some family Bibles, you will sometimes find listings for several births in one family in one entry. Obviously these records were provided en masse, in some instances several years after the fact. Assuming, however, that the information was given by a close family member we can presume (hope) that the information is reasonably close, if not exactly right. For many early records, especially births, it's as close as we're gonna get! -Lauren Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XcB.2ACE/269.1.2 Message Board Post: Please contact me at JohnMxzz@aol.com Thank you. John

> Subject: [RIWASHIN] Re: Order of accuracy of Washington County RI Primary Sources > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:08:03 -0400 > From: "Barry H. Browning" <barrybro@twave.net> > To: RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > If the Washington County list members will forgive me for asking this > question of you all...particularly my betters in genealogical research > skills... > > Which of the following sources do each of you consider the most...accurate > in terms of the data they provide for local genealogy...local genealogy > defined as for Washington County/Pettaquamiscutt Purchase/Narragansett > Country/Kingstown(e), RI? > > If any care to do so, and in the interest of improving all our researches, > could you all rearrange the list of sources of local genealogy below, from > what is in your opinion most accurate/dependable to least accurate, and at > the same time, add any other sources not mentioned in their appropriate > places? Also, if you know the more correct names for the following > sources, in the interest of improving all our research, please correct what > I have written.... > > * Local town hall records in order of their establishment: > (North) Kingstown(e) > Westerly > South Kingstown > Charlestown(e) > Exeter > Richmond > Hopkinton > * Local Land Records > * Local Probate Records/Wills > * Family Bibles > * Published RI Genealogical Periodicals Covering Disputed Records > * Austin's Genealogical Dictionary > * Barbour's > * Savage's > * Local genealogies, for example > Kenyon, Hazard, Browning, Gard(i)ner > (Please expand this list if you know of other > Washington County family genealogies) > * Family Bibles > * Latter Day Saints data online > > Thank you all for your kind attention! > Appreciatively, > Barry Hale Browning Barry, You ask a good question. Generally, I would agree with your proposed order of accuracy. I have found some errors even in the local town hall records. So these are not perfect -- but as you say, are the preferred place to find a record. You should distinguish between primary and secondary records. This is an oversimplification but a primary record is one recorded contemporaneous with the event by an eye witness of the event. A doctor or mid-wife delivering a baby who reported the birth to the town clerk for recording would be considered a primary record. The parents reporting the birth also would be considered a primary record. I am assuming that the birth was reported to the clerk shortly after the birth and not years later. The same thing can be said for a death record. But when the death record gives the date and place of birth and the parentage of the deceased, then that information is considered secondary. Gravestones are considered secondary sources. Arnold's and Beaman's transcripts of the original records are also secondary sources. (James Arnold, "Vital Records of Rhode Island." Alden G. Beaman, "Rhode Island Vital Records, New Series," 14 volumes and "Rhode Island Genealogical Register," 20 volumes) That's enough with respect to primary and secondary sources. Back to your list. I would place Arnold's VR and Beaman's VR near the top -- after local records. I have found minimal typos and misreadings by these gentlemen when I hve had the opportunity to compare their abstracts with the originals. You list family Bibles twice. These vary considerably in quality and accuracy. The first question to be answered is were the entries made contemporaneous with the events or are they all in one handwriting and the same pen and ink done at a time much later than the events. Does the Bible include entries going back to 1775, for example, while the Bible was published in 1860? Published Genealogical Periodicals also vary in quality. "RI Roots" is excellent, but is not beyond error (note the correction I submitted that was published in the latest issue). Beaman's RIGR re-published some genealogies that are disputed. Documentation with more recent publications tends to better than that published 100 years ago. The two leading journals are the "New England Historical and Genealogical Register" and the "New York Genealogical and Biographical Record," followed by "The American Genealogist" and the "National Genealogical Society Journal." Austin's Gen Dict as originally published has many errors. Recent reprints include annotations for published corrections. I would place it on a par with the better local genealogies. I am not sure what you are referring to with reference to Barbour. Savage is a notch above online data. I think you have it overrated. The list of local genealogies is substantially longer. In the earlier eamil reply I made tonight I mentioned the Champlin typescript genealogy in the Westerly Lib. In my library, I have genealogies on the Babcock, Brownell, Burdick, Greene, Lewis, Perry, Clarke, Crandall, Hoxsie, Lanphere, Larkin, Lillibridge, Mumford, Peckham, Rathbun, Richmond, Sherman and other families. All of these have errors, and as you realize, all these errors have found their way into the internet genealogy databases. But some of these genealogies are good. Some are not quite as good. The LDS data online is no better or no worse than the other on line genealogies. But I agree with you that they should go on the bottom of the list as far as accuracy goes. A few of the submitters include documentation and to the extent they do, this is good. It then becomes easier to verify the information. Bill

Edward Franklin Browning's, "Gen of the Brownings" p 192 shows Hannah b 5 June 1765. The reference you give, "Smith Family Almanacs ..." says she d 12 May 1851, aged about 89 -- that calcualtes to a year of birth about 1762. Not too far off. Robinson's "The Hazard Family, p 73 lists the same birthdate for Hannah as does a typescript Champlin gen in the Westerly Lib. Robinson has the earliest date of publication, 1896. Beaman, RIVR, NS, 9:138 Elizabeth Phillips, d/o James and ann, b 11 Feb 1809 NK Iwid Mr. Cook, d 18 June 1897, NK) (Beaman's source: NKD 4-114-115) Beaman, 9:139. Lydia Phillips, d/o James & Hannah, b 1800 SK (wid Mr. Cooper, d 2 Feb 1878 NK) (NKD 4:36-37) >From these two records it appears that Ann and Hannah may be the same person. Hannah Champlin's birth is reported by Arnold, RIVR, V:South Kingstown;41. Beaman, RIVR, NS, 4:68. Stephen Champlin had widow Dinah and unnamed infant children SK probate 14 May 1781, 6A:119. The Champlain spelling is apparently taken from Arnold where the name is misspelled. Most records spell in Champlin. I suggest that you go to a Family History Center and order the microfilm of the North Kingstown Land Evidence from Salt Lake and read the Vol 6, pp 66, 199-200 where I show that Hannah Champlin m Ezekiel Watson. With Elizabeth having been born in 1809 and he mother's birth given as 1762/1765, we are pushing the limits of age for childbirth. 50 is usually given as an absolute maximum "acceptable" age genealogically for a mother to give birth to a child. Above 50 extraordianry proof of birth is necessary to establish the relationship. If the 1762 birth year is correct then she was about 47 and probably past the age of child-bearing. The 1765 birth is more plausible since Ann/Hannah would have been 43 years old. I couldn't find any reference in my library to when Ezekiel Watson died. Assuming that I read the NK Land Evidence correctly and Hannah Champlin, d/o Stephen and Dinah, m Ezekiel, and Ezekiel died in 1811, while Elizabeth Phillips, d/o Janes and Ann was b in 1809, then you need supporting documentation from better sources than just an internet genealogy that Elizabeth was the dau of Hannah Champlin. >From what I could dig out of my library over the last hour, all I can say is that she was the dau of James and Ann (maiden name unknown) Phillips. I have notes on the records I read in NK, but they have not been transcribed into my computer database. I don't have the time to dig find them in my notebooks. You need to read the original records anyway to verify that I read and abstracted them correctly. Bill Wright > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:04:25 EDT > From: Dewolf2323@cs.com > To: RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Bill: The Mormon website also gives the James Phillips, Hannah Champlain > connection. Also Google. My gr gr grandmother Elizabeth Phillips was > married to Stephen Cook who was drowned when his sailboat overturned coming from > Newport to Wickford off of Point Judith. James Phillips, who if all is > correct, her father, is also listed as having drowned at sea. All of these > characters lived in the same vicinity. I am struggling with this huge problem. > James Phillips father is given as Thomas Phillips and mother as Dorcas Albro. > The marriage date of Hannah and ?James is given as 1791. My Elizabeth was born > 1809. The dates of the children you quoted do not jive here. > Any light you can throw on this would be appreciated. Claire > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:35:03 EDT > From: Dewolf2323@cs.com > To: RIWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Phillips - Champlin > > In the "Smith Family Almanacs of North Kingston, R.I." Page 99 > Phillips, James d 13 Sept. 1823 > " Hannah widow of James Phillips at Wickford d 12 May 1851 aged > about 89 yrs.

Phillips - Champlin In the "Smith Family Almanacs of North Kingston, R.I." Page 99 Phillips, James d 13 Sept. 1823 " Hannah widow of James Phillips at Wickford d 12 May 1851 aged about 89 yrs.

Hi Bill: The Mormon website also gives the James Phillips, Hannah Champlain connection. Also Google. My gr gr grandmother Elizabeth Phillips was married to Stephen Cook who was drowned when his sailboat overturned coming from Newport to Wickford off of Point Judith. James Phillips, who if all is correct, her father, is also listed as having drowned at sea. All of these characters lived in the same vicinity. I am struggling with this huge problem. James Phillips father is given as Thomas Phillips and mother as Dorcas Albro. The marriage date of Hannah and ?James is given as 1791. My Elizabeth was born 1809. The dates of the children you quoted do not jive here. Any light you can throw on this would be appreciated. Claire