I checked for any information in Pictou Co. in Nova Scotia and found nothing . You might try the following sites. https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/marriages.aspx or https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/births.aspx Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 9:33 am Subject: RIGENWEB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 313 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Primary Records (Larry & Ann) 2. Re: Researcher in RI ([email protected]) 3. Printers and Printing in Providence (part 8) (Beth Hurd) 4. Re: Ellis search ([email protected]) 5. Printers and Printing in Providence (part 9) (Beth Hurd) 6. Re: Ellis search ([email protected]) 7. Re: Ellis search ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:40:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Larry & Ann <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Primary Records To: Bonnie Weber <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]hlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 this would be great, I hope they do this shortly, I would love to be able to go on line and look info up on RI Ann -----Original Message----- >From: Bonnie Weber <[email protected]> >Sent: Aug 29, 2007 12:19 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Primary Records > >Hi Jane > >I believe that if enough subscribers to these lists, ask for the Press to do >this, it might not only be helpful to us, who can no longer get to these >places, but also put some dollars into the library coffers. Each and every >library is looking for ways to increase funding. I wouldn't mind >contributing to the local level, but refuse to have anything to do with >Ancestry or similar paid for view sites. NEHGS is another matter, and have >always supported them. > >As with many members of the RIGENWEB, we are not able to get hands on, >anymore. When I was younger, I would drive down and get originals. Now >that it isn't possible, or at least not feasible, I would love to be able to >access those records, whether on line or on CD. Picton needs to make a >profit to produce these volumes, and the library's need capital to support >their work. In mine own estimation, they could do it either way, by >subscription on line, or by CD. > >This is Bonnie in Canada >new handle "Boops" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jane Fiske" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:33 PM >Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Primary Records > > >> Bonnie, it might not be as impossible as it looks. Picton Press, owned by >> Lewis Bunker Rohrbach, has digitized all Maine town records and published >> CDs for each town. Mr. Rohrbach has indicated willingness to do the same >> for RI, and there were negotiations in the works with West Greenwich some >> time ago, but I don't know if anything came of it or not. The problem >> with >> RI is that each town has jurisdiction over its own records, so no one >> organization, like the Maine Archives, can make the decision and grant >> permission (it's done from microfilm). Picton would do it in return for >> the >> right to sell the CDs, and the town would get a copy of the CDs, rather >> like >> the Mormon microfilming except that they won't sell the film. I don't >> think >> Picton would ever go after this agressively, but it might help if some >> people interested in the idea would do some lobbying in the right places - >> the RI town clerks' offices. >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bonnie" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:14 AM >> Subject: [RIGENWEB] Primary Records >> >> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2007, at 3:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Guess we should visit the Town Halls if possible to verify each >>>> entry. Makes you wonder what else might have been transcribed wrong. >>>> Don Taylor >>> >>> Yes. Then there are those of us who are thousands of miles away from >>> those Town Halls. My dream is when all these old volumes will be >>> available online! Anyone know if there is any grand plan for that in >>> Rhode Island? >>> >>> Bonnie, dreaming... >>> in Oakland, California >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:25:45 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Researcher in RI To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Dear Bonnie, Charlie, Jane, Xoa, Marge, Marie, Helen Wilmot, ? DeWolf, Helen Smith and any others who answer my email: I have asked some of you and others on the RI list for my ELLIS information in the past when those who have RI resources have offered lookups in them. All of my mother's lines but one moved from RI to central NYS a couple of hundred years ago more or less. I have been online since December 1997 and a member of the RI list most of that time. I am looking for the birth and parents of my ggg grandfather, CHRISTOPHER ELLIS, who died in Middlefield, Otsego Co., NY, at the home of his daughter, on Apr. 7, 1855, at the age of 72 years one month and eight days, so he was born about the first of March 1783. I have no idea who his parents were or where he was born in RI. A couple of 1800s U.S. Federal censuses for Milford, Otsego Co., NY, where he lived all his adult life, state that he was born in RI. I have loads of information about CHRISTOPHER ELLIS after he came to New York State. He became a wealthy farmer, bought and sold several properties, married Wealthy PERRY, daughter of Jonas PERRY of Hartwick, Otsego Co., NY about 1800. I have not found their marriage record. Their first of nine children was born in September 1801 so it seems that Christopher came to Otsego Co, NY, and married about the same time, when he was about 17 years old. I have written numerous letters to towns, historical societies, libraries, etc. in RI and MA over the years. Because my mother, who was descended from ELLISes, said that her ELLISes came from MA, I have concentrated on towns that have, at different times, been in RI and in MA. That way, both statements could be true, that he was born in RI and that he was born in MA. One ELLIS who caught my attention as a good candidate for Christopher's father is NICHOLAS ELLIS, Jr. who married Hannah EDWARDS on Oct. 10, 1785, according to James N. Arnold's Vital Records of Rhode Island. It was Nicholas's abstract (especially his sojourn in Otsego Co., NY, between 1800 and 1810) in Rev War Pension Abstracts that suggested him to me. Here is the abstract: "Nicholas Ellis. Served on the RI line. Applied for a pension 16 Apr. 1833, in Warren Co., NY. Was a resident of Queensbury, NY. Enlisted at West Greenwich in Kent Co., RI, and in the spring of 1779 moved to Coventry, RI & also enlisted there & lived there 18 to 20 years, then moved to Otsego Co., NY, then to Warren Co., NY." I am aware that Christopher was born in 1783 and Nicholas and Hannah were married two years later, but it seems, from what I have read, that that was not an unusual circumstance. That might be especially true because Nicholas, and probably Hannah, were very young. Nicholas Ellis, Jr.'s enumeration in the 1790 Kent County RI Federal census (his father, Nicholas, Sr. is enumerated on the same page) shows that he had a son who was in the same age range as Christopher was at that time. The 1800 NY Federal census shows that Nicholas had moved to Stephentown, Rennsalaer Co., NY by then. Again, he had a son in the age range of Christopher. His wife must have died as no female is enumerated in the 1800 Stephentown, Rennsalaer County census. Nicholas was enumerated in Queensbury, Warren Co., NY, in the 1810 Federal census.. His son would have been the same age as Christopher was in 1800 and he could have moved his family from Rennsalaer Co. to Otsego Co and left his oldest child (Christopher) there while he went on to Warren Co., NY. I have no idea why he went on to live in Warren Co. I have recently acquired Nicholas's Rev War pension application in the hope it would provide some information about his family.From it I learned that he lived for some time and was enumerated in the Stephentown, Rennsalaer Co., NY census in 1800. I also learned that he was born about 1764 (he was 68 years old in 1833 when he applied for his Rev War pension, which was denied). The really crucial information I need is the names of Nicholas ELLIS, Jr.'s children, especially the name of the son in the age range of Christopher. I wrote in my initial email that I wanted a researcher to concentrate on Coventry because he lived there for 18 years, his children were probably born there. I have searched the Rootsweb Warren County NY site without result and also WorldConnect and Familysearch.com, Google, Blingo, etc. for both Christopher ELLIS and Nicholas ELLIS. I have also written letters to the Town Clerk of Queensbury, libraries in the area, etc. I have a three-ring notebook full of ELLIS correspondence. Of course, Nicholas may not be the father of Christopher. If I knew that, I could start looking elsewhere for his father. Thanks very much for looking in your resources.. Jayne [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:35:41 -0400 From: Beth Hurd <[email protected]> Subject: [RIGENWEB] Printers and Printing in Providence (part 8) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907" prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution printed in 1907 "The Journeymen" (part 8) pp. IV - V. "HENRY A. ARMINGTON - Died Providence June 18, 1895; learned printing in the office of the Rumford Chemical Works, beginning in 1868, and worked there until his death. ARTHUR ARMSTRONG - Born Salem, N. J., Dec. 27, 1870; learned printing in the office of National Standard, Salem, N. J., came to Providence 1893; joined No. 33 Feb. 24, 1901; now on Tribune. FRANK W. ARMSTRONG - Born Providence Aug. 22, 1869; learned printing in the office of the Providence Press and worked in this city from 1889 to 1894; now located in New York city. JOHN W. ARMSTRONG - Born Wheeling, W. Va., Aug. 12, 1852; learned printing on Wheeling Intelligencer, beginning in 1868; admitted to Providence Union by card January, 1887; has left printing and is now a member of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, located in New York city. ALVIN S. ARNOLD - Died Providence Dec. 30, 1862, in his 62d year; he began work on the Journal in September, 1848, and continued in that office for a number of years. ALVIN S. ARNOLD, JR. - Died Providence, Nov. 3, 1865, in his 38th year; he learned printing on the Republican Herald; initiated into Providence Union Aug. 8, 1857; and worked on the Journal for a score of years before his death. His father was Alvin S. Arnold, also a printer." continued in part 9. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:49:46 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Ellis search To: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Dear Jane: I have written various places in Warren Co., NY where Nicholas ELLIS settled, but have had no luck getting information except that he was a pathmaster at one time and that he was a Rev War veteran, and I have his Rev War pension application, as I indicated in my previous email. I am going to write some more letters to that area if I cannot obtain the information from those of you who offered to look in your resources. I do have a wonderful will for Christopher ELLIS. I did not mention his children since they were born in New York State and had nothing to do with his birth and life before the age of about 17 years. His children were: Martha, Nathan, Jonas, Russell, Ferdinand, Hannah, Charles, Silas, Clark, Susannah and Caroline. Martha, Nathan, Silas and Susannah died as children. Caroline died at 32, Jonas at 48, Charles and Russell at about 40, Clark at 60, Ferdinand at 79. The children were born between 1801 and 1831. I have exact or approximate birth dates for all of them if needed. They were all born in Milford, Otsego Co.,NY. I have thought of trying to find Christopher's father through the children's given names. Jonas was named for his maternal grandfather, Jonas PERRY. Jonas Perry ELLIS named his only son James so I have paid some attention to that name while searching. However, these ELLISes seem to have paid little attention to naming their children after relatives so trying to find Christopher's father that way may be a waste of time. Jayne [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:17:17 -0400 From: Beth Hurd <[email protected]> Subject: [RIGENWEB] Printers and Printing in Providence (part 9) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907" prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution printed in 1907 "The Journeymen" (part 9) p. V. "GEORGE O. ARNOLD - Died Providence Oct. 29, 1885, aged 64 years; his name appears in the 1850 Directory as a printer, and until 1856, when he kept a periodical depot at 178 North Main street. GEORGE TAFT ARNOLD - Died Providence March 8, 1874, aged 49 years; he began work on the Journal in August, 1846, and continued there, with occasional absences, until his death. He was a charter member of Providence Typographical Union in 1857. LEWIS L. M. ARNOLD (Deacon) - Born Providence in March, 1833; began to learn printing in the office of the Daily Post, but left to go to sea. After spending several years in the coasting trade he returned to printing, working in the job office of Henry Tillinghast, on Market square, and also on the Norwich Bulletin. He served in the Navy during the Civil War; was a petty officer on the Hartford when that vessel was Farragut's flagship, and was in her during the passage of Forts Jackson and St. Philip on the Mississippi, below New Orleans. He returned to printing again in 1864 in the Journal composing room, remaining there the balance of his life. The sobriquet of 'Deacon,' by which he was known to hundreds of the craft, was given to him by George T. Arnold for the quiet, sober way in which he went about his duties. In emergencies he often acted as foreman of the Journal. He was initiated into Providence Union Feb. 11, 1871. He died at the Rhode Island Hospital Jan. 12, 1885, in the Henry B. Anthony free bed." continued in part 10. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:17:01 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Ellis search To: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 8/31/2007 10:26:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Have you looked for a will for Nicholas or any other Ellises in New York State? You could do that online on a site _www.sampubco.com_ (http://www.sampubco.com/) , county by county. It's just an index; if you want copies you have to order from him, David Samuelson, and it can take an age, but at least the index tells you what's there. I don't think it covers any administrations - just wills. Is there any kind of write-up for Christopher in a NY mug book? Were there any other Ellises among his associates? And what were the names of his children? Dear Jane: I did not answer all of your questions in my previous email. I have probably looked for Nicholas ELLIS's will at sampubco, but just in case I hadn't, I did now . There is no will for him at sampubco. I have purchased several wills from Mr. Samuelsen. I belong to many Rootsweb email lists and receive several online newsletters. I have in the past been a member of a good number of genealogical societies--RIGS, NEHGS, CNYGS, and have received several location and surname newsletters like The New England Connection and The Ellis Cousins Newsletter. I look at every page, site, whatever, that people supply or suggest that might have information on Christopher or Nicholas ELLIS. I have looked at so many that I do not know them all. I have not found any book or website that has a writeup and/or mug shot of Christopher. There were three other ELLISes of about Christopher's age living in Milford, Otsego Co., NY, at the time he lived there. I have not been able to find any connection between them and Christopher. I am aware of other ELLISes in RI--Rufus, Augustus, Gideon, etc. of the age to be Christopher's father, but none of them has a son named Christopher. Some of these ELLISes moved to New York State, but I have not found any connection between Christopher and them. Christopher ELLIS's oldest son, Jonas Perry ELLIS, had two children, James, who died at 16 years of age, and Harriet (1836-1900), who married Hamilton STONE, and had one child, Hattie Ella. Harriet, Hamilton and Hattie Ella moved to Clinton Co., MI from Onondaga Co., NY. Jonas left Harriet his Family Bible in his will. I have traced Harriet's descendants to Lima, Allen Co., OH, in the hope of finding a descendant who has the Bible. I don't know whether the Bible was new to Jonas or whether it had been given to him by Christopher and might, therefore, have information about Christopher's parents and ancestors. I have not started to write letters on this yet. I fear it would be a big waste of time and postage. I look at every online site that lists Bibles, and I have written libraries in the hope of finding the Bible in one of them. Thanks for your help. Jayne [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:33:32 +0000 (GMT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Ellis search To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just an idea for searching. I did a brief study of the ellis name in 1790, 1800 and 1810 census. It seems they may have been Quakers . The quakers migrated from RI to CT and NY. In NY they went from Dutchess County north to Saratoga, washington and warren Counties. Otsego County is west of Albany where another group of Quakers went. The earliets Ellis in Pittsfield Otsego County appears to be Reuben. Also in that time frame the Ellis' in Columbia and Rennselaer Counties included two Nathan's and two Nicholas'. ------------------------------ To contact the RIGENWEB list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the RIGENWEB mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of RIGENWEB Digest, Vol 2, Issue 313 **************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com