I am curious...what error are you talking about? You mention an error, or errors, but you don't specify any, so one can only guess. Can you specify what, in your view, is in error? I am also wondering what you are talking about when you say that Phil does so much to help us all. What did he do that helped? All I can see that he did was: 1. Make claims that shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim. 2. Make claims that experimentation was done that shows shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim, or even to demonstrate that the experiment was ever even really performed. How is making vacuous claims helpful? Brock Way --- CAROLE CARGILL <cdcargill_1@msn.com> wrote: > Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. > You do so much to help us all !!! > We all are entitled by being human with and > occasional error but this is ridiculous. > Carole Cargill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net> > To: > RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > I hope this resolves the issue. > Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he > would like to discuss this further with him. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phil Albro > > > > > Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in > geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did > research at the National Institute of Environmental > Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical > Director and internal consultant for an > environmental analysis company. The one who has > been teaching environmental chemistry at the > graduate school level for the past 19 years. No > secret, you can determine all that with a Google > search. I am the one who wrote the article on how > using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions > easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in > climates where the temperature drops below freezing > in the Wintertime. And so it does. > > If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished > surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed > off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. > It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates > the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes > exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > find anything. That is what I just said above - you > can not rinse it completely from the cracks with > water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a > pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl > alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The > alcohol will break the capillary attraction and > surface tension that are holding the water + > emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into > the cotton ball from which they ca! > n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, > using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick > which articles by others I choose to believe on > these matters. > > I too have read the original story about "DHMO", > although I had nothing to do with it. It was not > intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended > to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen > mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the > EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it > bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into > hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed > something to worry about. > > Phillip Albro > palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com> > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/> > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/> > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Kent County RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ > Search the RIGenWeb Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Well to start.. Phil has helped me with my computer problems and at his directions ... fixed my download problems and that's only me. Gloria, all the time gives us all endless and free information for our research. She always responds to us both on and off Rigenweb ... As far as errors go I was only speaking in general for us others... not Phil with his Bio's and Gloria with her information books. This has been a wonderful and helpful group of people sharing our information with all others and hopefully this should continue unless people criticize those who are only trying to help us! Carole Cargill ----- Original Message ----- From: Brock Way<mailto:brockway_32m@yahoo.com> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil I am curious...what error are you talking about? You mention an error, or errors, but you don't specify any, so one can only guess. Can you specify what, in your view, is in error? I am also wondering what you are talking about when you say that Phil does so much to help us all. What did he do that helped? All I can see that he did was: 1. Make claims that shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim. 2. Make claims that experimentation was done that shows shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim, or even to demonstrate that the experiment was ever even really performed. How is making vacuous claims helpful? Brock Way --- CAROLE CARGILL <cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com>> wrote: > Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. > You do so much to help us all !!! > We all are entitled by being human with and > occasional error but this is ridiculous. > Carole Cargill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net>> > To: > RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > I hope this resolves the issue. > Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he > would like to discuss this further with him. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phil Albro > > > > > Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in > geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did > research at the National Institute of Environmental > Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical > Director and internal consultant for an > environmental analysis company. The one who has > been teaching environmental chemistry at the > graduate school level for the past 19 years. No > secret, you can determine all that with a Google > search. I am the one who wrote the article on how > using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions > easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in > climates where the temperature drops below freezing > in the Wintertime. And so it does. > > If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished > surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed > off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. > It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates > the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes > exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > find anything. That is what I just said above - you > can not rinse it completely from the cracks with > water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a > pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl > alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The > alcohol will break the capillary attraction and > surface tension that are holding the water + > emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into > the cotton ball from which they ca! > n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, > using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick > which articles by others I choose to believe on > these matters. > > I too have read the original story about "DHMO", > although I had nothing to do with it. It was not > intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended > to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen > mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the > EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it > bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into > hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed > something to worry about. > > Phillip Albro > palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com>> > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/>> > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/>> > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Kent County RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/> > Search the RIGenWeb Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html> > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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