Fall River is in Massachusetts, right on the RI border. There's an interesting bit of historical info about MA/RI boundary disputes involving Fall River (http://homepage.mac.com/joepowers/mill/rhode.html). Not sure how accurate the info on that page is, but I do remember reading something along those lines in a book about the history of the City and the fact that it causes confusion for genealogical researchers at times. HTH, Sherri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Patnaude" <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: [RI] Question > Good evening list, > > > > Fall River, > > > > Is Fall River in Rhode Island or Mass? > > > > Frank > > ------------------------------- > > RIGENWEB MAILING LIST > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and > history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, > the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. > > Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the > list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list > more effectively, please click on the following link: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Frank, There is a death record at NEHGS for an Edouard Patenaude, died 24 Aug 1907, 61 Mason Street, Fall River, MA of Cholera. The record says he is 40 and single and not 50 and married as yours should be. It gives parents as Napoleon Patenaude and Desina Bermier, both born Canada; interment Notre Dame Cemetery, Fall River on August 25. Informant is given as Napoleon Patenaude ---- Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> wrote: ============= Good evening List, I am still trying to connect Edouard Patenaude born May 1856 per 1900 census, married to Alphonsine Rose Menard. They married in 1876 in MA and then moved to Rhode Island. They were in Pawtucket and then went to Central Falls, RI. Edouard died between 1900 and 1910, most likely in Central Falls since that is where Rose is living in 1810 with their daughter and her husband. Thank you, Frank Odenton, MD

Linda, Thank you for the information. All I know is Edouard was in the 1900 census and not in the 1910 but his wife was. So he died between 1900 and 1910. That is all I have. I wish there was more. WE are not even sure who his parents are. We are guessing at this time. I do not know what cemetery he is buried in. Most of my Patenaude/Patnaude relatives are buried in Notre Dame Cemetery, Pawtucket and this is where lived. I checked the RI cemetery database and came up with nothing. I checked the RI tombstone and again nothing. It is very frustrating to live so far away. Many of my immediate family are buried in St Ann's and I have not been there since my father died in Korea in 1952. Thanks, Frank -----Original Message----- From: rigenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rigenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:36 PM To: rigenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RI] Need Help Frank, I'm not sure what you are looking for since I've not read your previous posts or if I did, it's so long ago, I don't remember and am not going to go back hunting in the archives for them.  However, I have a suggestion...... There is a very knowledgeable researcher of French Canadian genealogy, dgfim22  aka Dennis & I won't say more than that since I don't want to blow his cover so to speak.  He's helped me with some of my posts esp. with respect to a great-grandmother who had me stumped for awhile.   He may see your post and be able to make some suggestions or help.  Fre-Can is his major interest. Try posting this to the RI / Providence Co message board.  Be sure to put Edouard Patenaude & Alphonsine Rose Menard in the subject line.  Too many people use generic subject lines that tell the other board users scanning through the posts nothing so few people bother to open those posts for a look to see what they are about.   If you know where specifically in Québec your families were from, try posting to those boards too as Dennis seems to frequent many of the Québec boards and you might also have your post seen by someone else researching these lines. Linda --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> wrote: From: Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> Subject: [RI] Need Help To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 5:09 PM Good evening List, I am still trying to connect Edouard Patenaude born May 1856 per 1900 census, married to Alphonsine Rose Menard. They married in 1876 in MA and then moved to Rhode Island. They were in Pawtucket and then went to Central Falls, RI. Edouard died between 1900 and 1910, most likely in Central Falls since that is where Rose is living in 1810 with their daughter and her husband. Thank you, Frank Odenton, MD ------------------------------- RIGENWEB MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- RIGENWEB MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 9/7/2008 4:53:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, F.Patnaude@comcast.net writes: >>Is Fall River in Rhode Island or Mass Frank, Fall River is in Massachusetts. A couple of good websites. _http://www.kindredtrails.com/MA_Bristol.html_ (http://www.kindredtrails.com/MA_Bristol.html) _http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/county/bristol/fallriver/fallriver.htm_ (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/county/bristol/fallriver/fallriver.htm) Joan **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Good evening list, Fall River, Is Fall River in Rhode Island or Mass? Frank

Good evening List, I am still trying to connect Edouard Patenaude born May 1856 per 1900 census, married to Alphonsine Rose Menard. They married in 1876 in MA and then moved to Rhode Island. They were in Pawtucket and then went to Central Falls, RI. Edouard died between 1900 and 1910, most likely in Central Falls since that is where Rose is living in 1810 with their daughter and her husband. Thank you, Frank Odenton, MD

Hi Frank, Fall River is in Bristol Co,  MA.  You can Google Maps for Fall River and it will give you both satellite and regular map views plus the state.  In the even you were to Google a town or city name of which there were several in a variety of states, since you know where in general you are looking for your family you could eliminate those that were located far from your search area. Just Googling "What county Fall River" will give your the county & state, usually a Wikipedia result.  My favorite map site is Multimaps since many of their maps, or at least the ones that I've been interested in, have "Birds eye" views which bring you down to an altitude of about 1,000 feet or less and you can do a 360 degree rotation around the point of interest on the map.  http://www.multimap.com/ Linda --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> wrote: From: Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> Subject: [RI] Question To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 5:52 PM Good evening list, Fall River, Is Fall River in Rhode Island or Mass? Frank ------------------------------- RIGENWEB MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frank, I'm not sure what you are looking for since I've not read your previous posts or if I did, it's so long ago, I don't remember and am not going to go back hunting in the archives for them.  However, I have a suggestion...... There is a very knowledgeable researcher of French Canadian genealogy, dgfim22  aka Dennis & I won't say more than that since I don't want to blow his cover so to speak.  He's helped me with some of my posts esp. with respect to a great-grandmother who had me stumped for awhile.   He may see your post and be able to make some suggestions or help.  Fre-Can is his major interest. Try posting this to the RI / Providence Co message board.  Be sure to put Edouard Patenaude & Alphonsine Rose Menard in the subject line.  Too many people use generic subject lines that tell the other board users scanning through the posts nothing so few people bother to open those posts for a look to see what they are about.   If you know where specifically in Québec your families were from, try posting to those boards too as Dennis seems to frequent many of the Québec boards and you might also have your post seen by someone else researching these lines. Linda --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> wrote: From: Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> Subject: [RI] Need Help To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 5:09 PM Good evening List, I am still trying to connect Edouard Patenaude born May 1856 per 1900 census, married to Alphonsine Rose Menard. They married in 1876 in MA and then moved to Rhode Island. They were in Pawtucket and then went to Central Falls, RI. Edouard died between 1900 and 1910, most likely in Central Falls since that is where Rose is living in 1810 with their daughter and her husband. Thank you, Frank Odenton, MD ------------------------------- RIGENWEB MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907" prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution printed in 1907 "The Journeymen" (part 171) p. LXXVIII. "WILLIAM E. SHIELDS - Born Covington, Ky., April 30, 1861; learned printing in Wapakoneta, O., beginning in 1876; worked in Providence in 1885 on the Telegram and Star; delegate to I. T. U. from Washington Union, No. 101, to Boston in 1892, and afterward President of that Union for two years; now located in Denver. GEORGE M. SHIPP - Born May 12, 1850, at Hillsboro, O.; learned printing on the Gazette in that town, beginning in 1867; admitted to Providence Union by card at the May meeting, 1887, and has visited this city at various other times; Mr. Shipp is an extensive traveller, having been in every city and town of any importance this side of the Rocky Mountains; in New York city in 1907. WILLARD F. SHOLES - Died Providence July 12, 1907, aged 45 years; learned printing in office of Charles L. Stewart, Franklin, Mass.; initiated into Providence Union Oct. 25, 1903; employed in this city until his death; participated in the effort for the eight-hour day in 1906. JOHN S. SIBLEY - Born Sutton, Mass., Sept. 8, 1823; died Pawtucket, R. I., Sept 13, 1883; learned printing in the office of the Woonsocket Patriot, beginning about 1845; in 1850 worked at Journal job office in this city and later was a member of the firm. With Ansel D. Nickerson he published the Pawtucket Gazette and Chronicle after Jan. 1, 1870. ORVILLE SIBLEY - Died Providence July 30, 1875, aged 31 years. He was initiated into Providence Union Dec. 12, 1868. JENNIE B. SILVER (Miss) - Initiated into Providence Union March 27, 1892; married and took withdrawal card; afterward sent for working card from Canada. WILLIAM SIMMONDS (b) - Born in Newark, N. J., June 15, 1855; learned printing in that city; came to Providence in 1897; obligated in Providence Union March 31, 1901; now foreman of News-Democrat. BROWN SIMMONS - Died July 14, 1844, in the 37th year of his age. In 1829, in partnership with John W. D. Hall, he published the Literary Subaltern and continued his connection with that paper until Nov. 30, 1832, when it was sold to S. S. Southworth. JOHN SIMMONS - Died Providence June 20, 1885, aged 76 years; from 1851 to 1853 he worked on the Journal." continued in part 172.

these names were written in calligraphy on a document I photographed - I've transcribed them, hopefully I read the lettering correctly - I had trouble with the letters J, F, T, G and S: I didn't copy down the date, but I think the church is about 100 years old ... it now goes by "St. Lawrence" - (with a W) Centredale, North Providence, Providence Co., Rhode Island "to be designated by the name of St. Laurence Council, Knights of Columbus, # 2235. J. Arbour, J. Albanese, W. C. Austin, C. J. Baron, R. R. Baron, H. Bellmore, J. O. Bellmore, J. Bouchard, V. J. Belleavonie, M. Connetti, P. Cardarelli, E. J. Charbonneau, A. J. Dagesse, W. J. Ducharme, T. Duffney, Rev. J. F. Downing, J. S. Duxbury, T. F. Gilson, P. H. Leduc, J. D. Hutchinson, L. Laboissoniere, A. Latour, F. Malone, G. McDonald, O. L. Menard, G. R. Menard, J. M. Menard, F. S. Pelland, A. Picard, A. A. Picard, G. Parenteau, N. J. Trahan, R. F. Tobin, Dr. E. J. Sullivan, C. D. McDermott, Sr., E. Jette, J. H. Rock, J. J. Cunningham, C. Ethier, W. A. McGrory, C. S. Keach, R. R. Boucher, L. F. Emin, K. J. Javor, R. T. Joyce, T. A. Coleman, E. DiGuilio, J. Kinnane, F. Senecal, A. J. Arbour, E. L. Bushee, T. Christian, W. H. Clark, G. F. Desonie, W. F. Douglas, L. W. Emin, A. P. Foster, J. J. Fanning, T. G. Fanning, A. Forgue, C. F. Gilson, G. H. Gilson, J. E. Gilson, J. H. Gibbons, F. A. Garriepy, J. W. Leonard, L. J. Lynch, J. E. Lynch, C. D. McDermott, Sr., J. H. Phillips, G. J. Plante, H. Paquette, T. O'Reilly, A. Ricard, A. St. Jean, O. Sweeney, J. L. Sliney, A. Theroux, J. S. White, S. Sampson, J. W. Wallace, J. J. Galligan, G. Charbonneau, E. G. Gilson, M. S. Kirby, J. F. Lizotte, V. J. Johnson, J. M. Sloan, R. H. Mangan, J. L. Flynn, W. F. Charbonneau, J. J. McCauley, G. R. Areson, J. Cahir, A. Turgeon, J. F. Boucher, E. Trahan, H. J. Sloan, A. A. Sampson, L. M. Sampson, R. E. Tobin, and we do hereby grant to said Brothers to receive members and perform all work of the Knights of Columbus agreeable to the usages of the Knights of Columbus, to exact from their members such fees as they shall judge necessary for the support of their council, and the regular payments of all legal dues and assessments and to observe with due respect all ordinances emanating from the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus. In testimony whereof we have hereunto affixed our names under the seal of the Supreme Council, attest, James A. Flaherty, Supreme Knight

from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907" prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution printed in 1907 "The Journeymen" (part 170) pp. LXXVII - LXXVIII. "D. J. SHEA - Born Halifax, N. S., Jan. 27, 1855; learned printing in that city, beginning in 1869; worked in Providence a short time in the spring of 1884; employed in New York city on the Journal in 1904. JOHN SHEEDY - Born Norwich, Conn., and learned printing there, beginning in 1870; initiated into Providence Union Nov. 9, 1873, and worked here several months on the Morning Star; now foreman New London Morning Telegraph. E. J. SHEPARD - Born Clifton Park, N. Y., in 1857; learned printing in Saratoga, N. Y., beginning in 1872; admitted to Providence Union by card July 28, 1896; worked in this city March to September, 1895, and July to October, 1896, mostly on the Journal; has been employed in the Government Printing Office in Washington, D. C., since February, 1897; brother of G. E. Shepard. GORDON E. SHEPARD - Born Jonesville, Saratoga Co., N. Y., in 1856; learned printing in Saratoga, N. Y., beginning Dec. 1, 1869; came to Providence July 5, 1875, and has worked on the Journal since under five foreman, viz.: George Merrill, E. B. Rose, John H. Milne, Robert Quinn and William Carroll, only two of whom are now living; has held a night 'sit,' a day 'sit,' and 'objectionable sit' for about four years; assistant 'ad man' for four years; about one year on the old Mergenthaler linotypes, and since 1894, a 'sit' in the proofroom. He was initiated into Providence Union April 15, 1883. P. R. SHEPARDSON - Died Newark, N. J., Nov. 2, 1906, aged 62 years; admitted to providence Union by card July, 1888. DANIEL A. SHERMAN - Born Newport, R. I., in 1838; initiated into Providence Union March 11, 1865. In a movement for a short workday at that time he was secretary of the organization. He is supposed to have died in one of the towns in the southern part of the State. HOWARD E. SHERMAN - Born Prudence Island, R. I., Jan. 29, 1867; learned printing in Bristol, R. I., beginning in 1880; initiated into Providence Union Oct. 25, 1885; worked in Providence from 1884 to 1889 on the Evening Mail, a campaign sheet, started in 1884; the R. I. Democrat, Journal, Dispatch and Telegram; was in the lockout on the last named paper in 1889; treasurer of No. 33 in 1888-'89; now employed in the Government Printing Office at Washington." continued in part 171.

from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907" prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution printed in 1907 "The Journeymen" (part 169) p. LXXVII. "C. C. SHARP - Born Brandt Co., Canada, Nov. 13, 1861; he learned the printing trade in Sarnio, Can., beginning in 1878; deposited a card in Providence Union April 24, 1904. This was his first trip to New England, although he had travelled all over the United States, from St. Paul, where he joined the Union in 1880, to New Orleans, and from San Francisco to Providence; employed on the Telegram operating a linotype in 1904. ARTHUR L. SHAW - Born 1862; learned printing in Sackville, N. B., on the Chignecto Post, beginning in 1880; initiated into Providence Union April 5, 1888. CHARLES S. SHAW - Born Jersey City, N. J., 1858; learned printing with George A. Wilson in this city, beginning in 1893; initiated into Providence Union July 25, 1897; now in New York city. EARL BRANDON SHAW - Born Augusta, Me., in 1870; learned printing in A. N. Angell's office in this city, beginning in 1884; worked in Providence from 1884 to 1891 and from 1893 to 1901; initiated into No. 33 April 5, 1888; went to San Francisco in 1891 for two years, and was foreman of the Berkeley Daily Herald, the first daily in Berkeley, Cal. Mr. Shaw was one of five brothers, all printers - Arthur, William, Charles and Frank, the latter deceased. FRANK N. SHAW - Born Hudson City, N. Y., June 27, 1862; died in Providence December, 1891; he learned printing in Sackville, N. B., and Brooklyn, N. Y., beginning in 1879; worked in Providence from 1883 to 1889, when he went to Chicago and was foreman for some time for Donahoe & Hennehery; returned to Providence in 1891, and was foreman of J. C. Monaghan's paper (Record); initiated into No. 33 April 15, 1883. JAMES C. SHAW - Born Providence April 23, 1882; learned printing on the Evening Telegram, beginning in 1899; initiated into Providence Union March 27, 1904. WILLIAM S. SHAW - Born Bridgeport, Conn., Sept. 17, 1864; learned printing at Chatham, Meremichee Co., Can., beginning in 1882; admitted to Providence Union by card at the August meeting, 1889; now employed in this city." continued in part 170.

from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907" prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution printed in 1907 "The Journeymen" (part 168) pp. LXXVI - LXXVII. "FRANK HOPKINS SEARS - Born New York State Aug. 21, 1855; learned printing on newspapers in Montgomery and Newburgh, N. Y., beginning in 1869; admitted to Providence Union by card Oct. 12, 1874; worked in this city about seven years, on the Journal, Bulletin, Press and Star; went West in the fall of 1881, and Dec. 19 of that year published one number of the Waverly Enterprise in Waverly, Coffey Co., Kas.; went into cattle raising business and has not worked at printing since 1881; was in cattle business at Eudora, Kas., in 1904. FRANK H. SEFFING - Born Sandusky, Ohio, Jan. 22, 1864; learned printing in office of Register of that city, beginning Aug. 25, 1876; admitted to Providence union by card Aug. 27, 1884, and again June 28, 1885; worked on the Star and Telegram. After enumerating the names of the men on those papers when he visited Providence, Mr. Seffing writes: 'The lapse of 20 years has not served to efface from my mind the names of those old stalwarts of No. 33, and the rides 'down the river' and the 'Rhode Island clambakes' and the general good times to be had in Providence.' Mr. Seffing represented Cleveland Union at the Hot Springs convention in 1907. P. A. SEIBERLICH - Born Philadelphia, Pa., May 13, 1860; he learned the printing trade in that city in the offices of John P. Murphy, beginning in 1875; worked in Providence on the Evening Telegram from 1894 to 1900, and has 'worked in nearly every large city in the country;' now located in New York. THOMAS C. SHANLEY - Died Providence Jan. 24, 1885, aged 25 years; he learned printing on the Evening Telegram; initiated into Providence Union Sept. 30, 1883. The funeral was an elaborate one. The bearers were James H. Russell, Joseph N. B. Meegan, James Moore and George W. Flynn. Mass was at the Pro-Cathedral. JOHN A. SHANNON - Born May 10, 1863, in England; he began to learn printing in the office of the News at Lawrence, Mass., finishing his apprenticeship in Providence at A. N. Angell's; he worked in Providence from 1887 to 1904; was an original member of the souvenir committee; now located in New York city." continued in part 169.

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Frank, Go to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/ Search the Rhode Island Cemeteries Master Index and search for PW003 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` That is ST FRANCIS CEMETERY PAWTUCKET SMITHFIELD AVE ->25 ft. of tel pole #19-1 Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Patnaude" <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: [RI] St Francis Cemetery > Good evening list, > > > > Does anyone know where I can look on the web for buriels in St Francis > Cemetery, Pawtucket, Rhode Island > > > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Odenton, MD > > ------------------------------- > > RIGENWEB MAILING LIST > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and > history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, > the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. > > Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the > list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list > more effectively, please click on the following link: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening list, Does anyone know where I can look on the web for buriels in St Francis Cemetery, Pawtucket, Rhode Island Thanks, Frank Odenton, MD

Frank, St. Francis, Pawt. is listed in the RI Historical Cemeteries Transcription Project.  Searches are via surname and not all names in the cemetery are included in the database as they are looking for volunteers to go out and check the cemetery which is quite large in terms of the number of burials.  Results pages will list the individual by surname, given name, age sometimes,  DOB if in the records and DOD also if in the records followed by an identifier code.  Sometimes women will have their maiden names in ( ).  It all depends on what was in the records that were transcribed.  People buried in St. Francis will have PW003 after their entry.  While the majority of burials are Irish, there are also French Canadian and Italian burials there.  The cemetery is essentially full and closed to new burials unless one's family owns a grave site that still has spaces; no new burial plots are available. The description of the cemetery from the cemeteries transcription site says the following: "four books of records contain name, burial date, age, sect & lot #    book #1 is at the diocese office in Providence book #2 starts 12 Nov 1898, about 40 names per page -   pg 11: 12 Nov 1898 - pg 50 14 Nov 1899  (abt 1600/year)  pg 100  6 Jan 1901,   pg 200 24 May 1903, pg 300 17 Nov 1905,  pg 400 28 May 1908, pg 500 10 Feb 1911, pg 600 23 Jul 1913, pg 700  7 Feb 1916, pg 800  1 Jun 1918, pg 900  Jul 1919, pg 1000 18 Oct 1921, pg 1100 21 Jul 1924, pg 1103 end     about 40,000 entries                                                                  Very little of this cemetery has been completed. There are many late 19th century Irish stones with information on where in Ireland the people came from. We are looking for a volunteer to record these.         This cemetery has not been recorded." Here is the link to the search page: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/ One thing you must have when working with cemeteries owned by the Diocese of Providence is a death date.  Month and year at the minimum otherwise they can't find your burial.  The Diocese keeps all their records by date of death.  There is no cross referencing system in place to find a burial if all you have is a name. Unless the staffing has changed since the last time I was in or called the Catholic Cemeteries Office at Cathedral Sq. in Providence, it's a waste of time to contact them.  I submitted a request in person at the CCO on the form they supplied looking for a burial.  The woman behind the counter took it and deposited it in one of those hanging wall pockets.  It's probably still right there today collecting dust right where she put it that afternoon.  5 years & I'm still waiting.  The people in the CCO were very unhelpful and unpleasant to work with.  One gets the impression that by going there and making a request, you are greatly imposing on them. Your best chance is to call the cemetery directly.  All my dealings with the staff there have been positive.  They are nice people and will try to help you but again you need to know at least the month and year of death because of the way the records are kept. Here is the contact phone # for the cemetery - 1-401-724-3130. Check the entries at Find A Grave on the off chance that someone may have entered your individual into the database there. Here is the link for the St. Francis page at Find A Grave: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=104478&CScn=st.+francis&CScntry=4&CSst=42& If all else fails and you still need DOD in order to check with the cemetery, try posting at the RI Providence County board at Ancestry.  There is a researcher there who often looks things up at the RI Archives for folks.  RI Archives will have deaths from 1856 to 1957.  On January 1, the end year will increase to 1958.  Additionally with respect to vitals, they have marriages and births 1856 to 1907, increasing to 1908 on 1 Jan 2009. You could also try contacting Archives directly but I know they are very short staffed and I don't know how rapidly they can respond to inquires but here is their info: Rhode Island State Archives 337 Westminster Street Providence, Rhode Island 02903 Telephone: (401) 222-2353 Fax: (401) 222-3199 Email: reference@sec.state.ri.us Web: www.state.ri.us/archives/ ~~website is poorly designed and pretty much useless from a genealogy point of view. Open to the public Monday-Friday 8:30 am - 4:30 pm Good Luck! Linda --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> wrote: From: Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> Subject: [RI] St Francis Cemetery To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 7:59 PM Good evening list, Does anyone know where I can look on the web for buriels in St Francis Cemetery, Pawtucket, Rhode Island Thanks, Frank Odenton, MD ------------------------------- RIGENWEB MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of genealogy and history information pertaining to Rhode Island. Despite the list name, the list topic is not related to GenWeb in any way. 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Hi, Frank, Most Irish burials in St. Francis are online at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ussnei/StFranPaw.htm St. Francis is a diocesan cemetery and records are held at the diocesan cemetery office: Diocesan Cemeteries - Director: Rev. Anthony W. Verdelotti Associate Director: Mr. Arthur F. Lurgio Phone: 401.944.8383 Fax: 401.944.8394 Office Hours: Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m.-4 p.m.; Monday Legal Holidays: 8:30 a.m.-12 noon. If the know the date of death/burial of one person, you can request an interment list with the names of everyone in the grave. Good luck, Barbara --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> wrote: > From: Frank Patnaude <F.Patnaude@comcast.net> > Subject: [RI] St Francis Cemetery > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 7:59 PM > Good evening list, > > > > Does anyone know where I can look on the web for buriels > in St Francis > Cemetery, Pawtucket, Rhode Island > > > > Thanks, > > Frank > > Odenton, MD > > ------------------------------- > > RIGENWEB MAILING LIST > > LIST TOPIC: The discussion, exchange, and research of > genealogy and history information pertaining to Rhode > Island. Despite the list name, the list topic is not > related to GenWeb in any way. > > Contact the List Admin at rigenweb-admin@rootsweb.com, or > to search the list archives or find other useful information > to help you use the list more effectively, please click on > the following link: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/RIGENWEB.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > RIGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheila1724 Surnames: O'REILLY/JOHNSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.rhodeisland.unknown/2094.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think Clifford Jr is still running East Greenwich Dairy. He's about 63 and I think he has a brother Wayne. Clifford Jr and wife Carole divorced and she remarried his cousin Richard! Both Clifford Jr and Richard worked at the family business at the time, East Greenwich Dairy. Here is that story and obit for Richard's mother, Virginia C. Johnson. PROVIDENCE --- A North Kingstown man has been ordered to pay his former wife $25,000 in damages for calling her a "whore" in front of a crowd waiting to be seated at a popular restaurant. Carole Johnson of Cranston was awarded $5,000 for the humiliation and embarrassment she suffered as a result of the name-calling incident, and $20,000 in punitive damages by a jury in Superior Court Wednesday. Clifford Johnson, her former spouse, also will have to pay $3,850 in interest, for a total of $28,850 under the terms of the judgment. Carole Johnson sued Clifford Johnson for slander after the name-calling episode at the Twin Oaks restaurant in Cranston on Aug. 29, 1986. The case was tried before Judge John P. Bourcier. Carole Johnson was married to Clifford Johnson during the 1960s. She divorced him and married his cousin, Richard Johnson, according to testimony during the trial. At the time, Richard and Clifford were involved in the family business, East Greenwich Dairy. The divorce and subsequent marriage caused a rift in the family, and Richard left the business. Later, Carole and Richard were divorced, and she began to date another man. According to her lawyer, J. Ronald Fishbein, Clifford Johnson came to her in the early 1980s and wanted to reunite, and she agreed. They didn't remarry, but they lived together, he said. After about a year and a half, "he ditched her," Fishbein said. Brought divorce action. Carole Johnson then hired Fishbein, who brought an action in Family Court for a divorce, alleging that Carole and Clifford were bound together in a common-law marriage. The judge refused to accept the allegation, and the divorce petition was denied. The case was appealed to the state Supreme Court, but Carole Johnson lost the appeal. According to testimony at the trial, there were 50 to 75 people in the lobby of the restaurant when Johnson started calling his former wife names and asserting that she was costing him a lot of money. A waiter testified that he heard Johnson call her a "whore" again, after he had been escorted outside. Legally, the word whore is slanderous and defamatory in itself because it suggests that a person has committed a criminal act by engaging in prostitution. Truth is an absolute defense against such an allegation, except when the word is uttered maliciously. Fishbein sought to establish that the utterance was malicious by presenting the testimony of the waiter, who said he heard Johnson call her a "whore" a second time. Joseph A. Keough, Clifford Johnson's lawyer, tried to establish that what his client had said about Carole Johnson was true. Carole Johnson testified that she was pregnant with Richard Johnson's child before her divorce from Clifford became final. Keough tried to convince the jury that Carole Johnson's husband-to-husband-to-boyfriend-to-husband relationships established the truth of Clifford Johnson's utterance. The jury disagreed. Barbara Kiely, wife of retired Superior Court Judge Francis J. Kiely, was the jury forewoman. Copyright Providence Journal/Evening Bulletin Jan 31, 1992 OBITUARY........ VIRGINIA C. JOHNSON, 88, of Oaklawn Avenue, formerly of Blueberry Lane, died Saturday at home. She was the wife of the late Melvin H. Johnson. Born in Brockton, Mass., a daughter of the late Charles E. and Elvira (Olson) Lucas, she lived in Cranston most of her life. Mrs. Johnson was a member of the Cranston Garden Club. She leaves a daughter, Lois B. Bogda of Cranston; two sons, Richard M. Johnson of Stuart, Fla., and Robert Paul Johnson of Berkeley, Calif.; six grandchildren, three great-grandchildren and two great-great-grandchildren. She was the sister of the late Robert Vernon Lucas. Copyright Providence Journal/Evening Bulletin Jan 3, 2000 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheila1724 Surnames: O'REILLY/JOHNSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.rhodeisland.unknown/2094.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Herman Johnson did run Hillside Farms as did his sons, Clifford and Marvin in the 1960s. They all lived on Phenix Avenue and/or in that area. Clifford W. Johnson, Sr and wife Martha had 2 children including son Clifford, Jr. Marvin and wife Virginia had 2 sons, Richard and Robert. Last I remember, Clifford (father and son) were running East Greenwich Dairy. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.