is a new item - it is in my local paper this am. Not the post office charging, but AOL and Yahoo. Mr. Waterhouse's post is correct Ann

Gill: In RI, Vital Records-(V/R's)-which include births, deaths & marriages, are not held at the County level. Thus if you are rea- sonably sure your GrGrGrandmother died in Providence, I suggest you contact first the Providence Probate Court as described below, which may be able to help you; or point you in the right direction on how to proceed. RI-Providence Probate Court 250 Benefit Providence, RI 02903-2719 Phone: (401)-277-3220 You may reply off-list to me if you prefer @ < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com >....TEXT ONLY! NO ATTACH- MENTS! BILL in CT -END- -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi there, I'm new to this list and I'm just trying to find out how I can obtain the death certificate for my great great grandmother, who died in Rhode Island. Unfortunately I don't have a date of death for her - the last trace I have of her is on the 1920 census, near the coal mines in Providence. I can't find her on the 1930 census, so it's quite possible her death was between 1920-1930. Her name was Catherine Hart, her previous married name was Hall, and her maiden name was Quinn. If anyone can point me in the right direction it'd be much appreciated! Thanks, Gill London, England.

There was a time that Wal Mart was refusing to copy just about any picture. I guess they thought if they were very strict with their rules no one could get into trouble. With the fast turnover of employees in that company it was probably better to be safe or sorry. There are do it yourself machines at most photo processing stores that are easy to use. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina" <rgpipes@direcway.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [RIGENWEB] Photographer----LORING > Thanks Judy, That is how I read it also. > Regina > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy [mailto:judya@hal-pc.org] > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 1:52 PM > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [RIGENWEB] Photographer----LORING > > I just looked in the recently-published Carmack's Guide to Copyright & > Contracts: A Primer for Genealogists, Writers & Researchers by Sharon > Bartolo Carmack to see what it says. [An excellent book, by the way!] > > Here is some of what Carmack says regarding photographs: > > "Copyright law says a photographer is considered to be the 'author' or > creator of photographic works and as such is the legal copyright holder. > If > you want to make copies of a photograph, alter it, or publish it, you need > the photographer's permission to do so." > > "Any work published before 1923, including photographs and maps, is now in > the public domain, and it cannot be retroactively protected." > > "If you want to use a family photograph, the copyright issues remain the > same. Photographers hold the copyright for images; therefore, you can't > use > any professional studio photographs of relatives without getting the > photographer's permission." > > From my quick reading, it appears that you need to try an locate some > relative of the photographer to see if they know who holds the copyright > to > Mr. Loring's photographs. > > Judy Anthony > Houston, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Waterhouse [mailto:wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:53 AM > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re:RE: Re: [RIGENWEB] Photographer----LORING > > Regina: If it were me I'd call a professional photographer & ask them if > there are any restrictions on this. I have just looked in a reference book > which states: Copyright: " A grant of an exclusive right to produce or > sell > a book, motion picture, work of art, music- al composition, or similar > product during a specified period of time." > Also: Copyright: "The legal protection given to published works, for- > bidding anyone but the author from publishing or selling them. The symbol > for copyright is C which I believe has be on the item if it is actually > copyrighted." I don't see anything there which refers to photographs, do > you? I might also try bringing them to a store such as CVS or Walgreens, > who > have photography services & see what they say. Also, there may be someone > on > this list who is an attorney, or has one in the family, who could give a > legal opinion. > Keep trying! > BILL in CT > -END- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > I went on the copyright site of the Library of Congress and that isn't > what > they say. So I was going to see if I could get permission. It is so much > red tape. I know my sister tried to have some school pictures from years > ago copied and Wal-Mart wouldn't let her make copies because they said > that > they were copyrighted. There wasn't anything written on the pictures. > Thanks Regina > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Waterhouse [mailto:wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com] Sent: > Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:35 AM > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re:Re: [RIGENWEB] Photographer----LORING > > Regina: The pictures are yours, & you don't need anyone's 'per- mission' > to > have them reproduced. > BILL in CT > -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi > > Paul Loring passed away a few years back. He has a brother,but I haven't > seen him for sometime as he has left No.Kingstown. I believe the business > need with Pauls death. > > Charlie > Charlie Carpenter > Washington County,R.I. > > Johnny cakes are spoiled by Maple syrup > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Regina" <rgpipes@direcway.com> > To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:14 AM > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Photographer----LORING > > >> We want to have some pictures made from my husbands wedding picture >> taken in 1946, how do we go about getting permission from the person >> that made the picture by the name of LORING in Rhode Island. I doubt >> that they are any family member are still in business. >> Rhanks >> Regina >> >> >> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== >> The RI Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm >> RIGenWeb Archives Search >> http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/ri/risearch.html >> >> > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of > Rhode > Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of > Rhode > Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html RIGenWeb Surname And Query > List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Kent County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ > Search the RIGenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html > >

Hi Everybody, Have been building a five generation family file of William Corry of Portsmouth. In doing this have hit a brick wall on two of the daughters of William Cory and Martha Cook that married two of the sons of Benjamin Hall and Frances Parker. The two sons were Benjamin who married Patience Cory on 18 Apr 1706. The other son is George Hall who married Mary Cory 19 Jun 1712. The children are listed in the Vital Records of Rhode Island. The vital records are obscure enough that I cannot determine who the children married. If any one has information on the descendants please contact me. Tom Corey Descendants of Benjamin Hall Generation No. 1 1. Benjamin1 Hall was born 1650 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island1, and died 26 January 1729/30 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island1. He married Frances Parker 27 July 1676 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island2, daughter of George Parker and Frances. Notes for Benjamin Hall: 1678 Freeman 1680 Taxed with his mother 9s. 3d. 1699-1701-4-5-6-7-13-14 Deputy 1701-2 Assistant 1704 Justice of the peace 1730, Mar. 9 Administration to son Nathaniel. Inventory, 16 pounds, 11s. viz: wearing apparel and cane 6 pounds 5s. feather bed and furniture belonging thereto 10 pounds, spectacles and case, glass bottle, staple and roweling needle 6s. More About Benjamin Hall and Frances Parker: Marriage: 27 July 1676, Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island2 Children of Benjamin Hall and Frances Parker are: 2 i. Mary2 Hall, born 03 April 16783. 3 ii. William Hall, born 19 August 16803. + 4 iii. Benjamin Hall, born 17 June 1682 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island. + 5 iv. George Hall, born 29 June 1685 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island; died 01 October 1723 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island. 6 v. Nathaniel Hall, born 29 June 16893. Generation No. 2 4. Benjamin2 Hall (Benjamin1) was born 17 June 1682 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island4. He married Patience Cory 18 April 1706 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island4, daughter of William Cory and Martha Cook. She was born Abt. 1690 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island5. More About Benjamin Hall and Patience Cory: Marriage: 18 April 1706, Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island6 Children of Benjamin Hall and Patience Cory are: 7 i. Martha3 Hall, born 27 March 1717 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island7. 8 ii. Frances Hall, born 04 April 1719 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island7. 9 iii. William Hall, born 27 March 1721 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island7. 10 iv. Patience Hall, born 06 April 1723 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island8. 11 v. Rebeckah Hall, born 05 June 1726 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island9. 12 vi. Benjamin Hall, born 21 May 1729 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island9. 5. George2 Hall (Benjamin1) was born 29 June 1685 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island10, and died 01 October 1723 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island11. He married Mary Cory 19 June 1712 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island12, daughter of William Cory and Martha Cook. She was born Abt. 1693 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island13. More About George Hall and Mary Cory: Marriage: 19 June 1712, Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island14 Children of George Hall and Mary Cory are: 13 i. Mary3 Hall, born 24 January 1712/13 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island15. 14 ii. Merebeth Hall, born 27 April 1714 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island15. 15 iii. Frances Hall, born 12 March 1715/16 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island15. She married Joseph Tripp 27 May 1742 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island; born Abt. 1715. More About Joseph Tripp and Frances Hall: Marriage: 27 May 1742, Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island 16 iv. Elizabeth Hall, born 30 March 1718 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island15. 17 v. Martha Hall, born 21 March 1720/21 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island15. 18 vi. Tabitha Hall, born 01 December 1723 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island15. She married John Earle 22 May 1749 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island; born Abt. 1722. More About John Earle and Tabitha Hall: Marriage: 22 May 1749, Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island Endnotes 1. John Osborne Austin, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, (Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island), Page 91. 2. John Osborne Austin, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, (Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island), Page 144. 3. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Vol 4 Part 1 Portsmouth Pg 77. 4. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Volume 4 Part 1 (Portsmouth) Page 17. 5. John Osborne Austin, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, (Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island), Page 57. 6. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Volume 4 Part 1 (Portsmouth) Page 17. 7. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Vol 4 Part 1 Portsmouth Pg 77. 8. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Vol 4 Part 1 Pg 77. 9. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Vol 4 Part 1 Portsmouth Pg 77. 10. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Volume 4 Part 1 (Portsmouth) Page 77. 11. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Vol 4 Part 1 Portsmouth Pg 77. 12. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Volume 4 Part 1 (Portsmouth) Page 17. 13. John Osborne Austin, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, (Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island), Page 56. 14. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Volume 4 Part 1 (Portsmouth) Page 17. 15. James N. Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, (Published under the Auspices of the General Assembly), Vol 4 Part 1 Portsmouth Pg 77.

Cindy, Thank you very much. This gives me a place to get started. It is my understanding that James' father James (married Priscilla Ramsdell) Adams is a "best guess" based on circumstantial evidence (with some good logical deduction). I am trying to tie James' son Jonathan to the Jonathan Adams later found in Killingly, CT married to Elizabeth Summers. I would enjoy hearing any further comments you may have on this Adams line. Regards, Kent At 06:51 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote: >James Arnold's VRRI, Westerly Births, lists children of James and Honor as >Honor, Nathaniel, Thomas, Joseph, and just above that, children of James >as James, John, Jonathan and Henry. I have: > >Name: James ADAMS >Sex: Male >Father: James ADAMS (abt 1630 - 2 Dec 1707) >Mother: Priscilla RAMSDELL (abt 1640 - bef 17 Feb 1691) > >Individual Facts >Birth 29 Mar 1668 Concord, MA >Death bet 1741-1741 (age 73) Westerly, Washington, RI > >Marriages/Children >1. Honor HALL >Marriage abt 1697 (age 29) Westerly, Washington, RI >Children James ADAMS (20 Jan 1697/98 - ) >John ADAMS (26 May 1700 - ) >Jonathan ADAMS (28 Sep 1702 - ) >Henry ADAMS (27 Sep 1704 - ) >Honor ADAMS (11 Jul 1706 - ) >Nathaniel ADAMS (25 Mar 1708/9 - ) >Thomas ADAMS (24 Mar 1710 - 29 Jan 1754) >Joseph ADAMS (4 Mar 1714/15 - ) > >Hope thais helps. > >Cindy > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Elam" <kae75@mchsi.com> >To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:16 PM >Subject: James Adams of Westerly > > >>Dear List, >> >>Where can I find a list of the children of James Adams of Westerly, RI? >>The information I have seen indicates that James was married to Honor Hall. >> >>Any help is appreciated. >> >>Kent Elam

it may or may not be correct but it is still off topic and does not belong on this list Maybe I will have to start removing some subscribers to get the point across Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* RIGenWeb County Coordinator: Kent County Rhode Island: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ Washington County Rhode Island: http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ ********************************************************************* List Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List ********************************************************************* Maguire Genealogy Site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amaguire/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AHarney" <aharney@exis.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Post re email charges > is a new item - it is in my local paper this am. > Not the post office charging, but AOL and Yahoo. Mr. Waterhouse's post is > correct > > Ann > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Kent County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ > Search the RIGenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html > >

Kent: Suggest you give a little more info when asking for help. How about at least narrowing it to a century or so. You most likely will not get much response with just two names. It takes time and effort for us to help others which we willingly do but often will just delete requests wit so limited information. Steve

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Walmsley" <gillwalmsley23@yahoo.co.uk> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] How to request a death certificate > Hi there, > > I'm new to this list and I'm just trying to find out how I can obtain the > death certificate for my great great grandmother, who died in Rhode > Island. Unfortunately I don't have a date of death for her - the last > trace I have of her is on the 1920 census, near the coal mines in > Providence. I can't find her on the 1930 census, so it's quite possible > her death was between 1920-1930. > > Her name was Catherine Hart, her previous married name was Hall, and her > maiden name was Quinn. > > If anyone can point me in the right direction it'd be much appreciated! > Thanks, > > Gill > > London, England. > > *************************** Here is the information you requested Kenneth S. Carlson Reference Archivist Rhode Island State Archives 337 Westminster Street Providence, RI 02903 Phone (401) 222 - 2353 Fax (401) 222 - 3199 TTY: 711 Email: reference@sec.state.ri.us Website: www.sec.state.ri.us/archives VITAL RECORDS ORDER GUIDELINES 1. All requests must be made on a Vital Records Order Form. 2. Only one type of record (e.g., birth, marriage, or death) for one name may be requested on a Form. 3. No more than two Vital Records Order Forms may be submitted at one time. Please wait for our response before sending further requests. 4. All requests for vital records must include an approximate date for the birth, marriage, or death sought. If you are unsure of the date, we ask that you include a five year period for the search (e.g., 1870-1875) as well as any information that will assist, such as parents' names, town/city of residence, etc. 5. Requests for vital records before 1853 must include the name of the city or town since no statewide index exists to facilitate a search of the early town records. 6. Photocopies of records will be provided at a cost of $.15 per page. Certified copies of state records (births, marriages, deaths recorded from 1853) can be provided at a cost of $2.00 per record. Requests for certification of pre-1853 vital records must be directed to the city or town that holds the original record. ****PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY**** **** YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED OF ANY CHARGES*** Note: Rhode Island General Laws stipulate that all records of birth and marriage are closed for a period of one-hundred (100) years. Death records are restricted for a period of fifty (50) years. Records of birth, marriage, and death available at the State Archives are as follows: Town Vitals: Prior to 1853 - microfilm copies only. Original records are maintained by the individual cities and towns. Births and Marriages: 1853-1903 (statewide index available) Deaths: 1853-1953 (statewide index available) Requests for copies of statewide filings of births and marriages after 1903 and deaths after 1953 must be requested from the Department of Health, Office of Vital Records, For more information call 401-222-2812. ****THIS FORM MAY BE COPIED**** VITAL RECORDS ORDER FORM Type of Record: _____ Birth _____ Marriage _____ Death (Select only one) _____ photocopy (.15/pg.) _______ certified copy ($2.00) Name of Individual Sought: First:__________________ Middle: ______________ Last:_______________ Date of Birth/Marriage/Death: _______________________________________ Place of event: _____________________________________________________ Parents' Names: _________________________________________________ Spouse: ________________________________________________________ Your Name: ___________________________ Address: ______________________________ _____________________________ Kenneth S. Carlson Reference Archivist Office of the Secretary of State Matthew A. Brown State Archives Division 337 Westminster Street Providence, RI 02903 Tel. 401 222 - 2353 Fax. 401 222 - 3199 TTY: 711 Email: reference@sec.state.ri.us Website: www.sec.state.ri.us/archives Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* RIGenWeb County Coordinator: Kent County Rhode Island: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ Washington County Rhode Island: http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ ********************************************************************* List Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List ********************************************************************* Maguire Genealogy Site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amaguire/

Listers, First off, All of those messages about paying an email fee are off topic, please stop. Secondly, for those of you on AOL and other affected servers please save the following link http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Then when you think you are having a problem with receiving email go to that site and check out the problem The last problem was listed there for several days, the link was posted on this and other lists but if you were among the affected you would not have gotten the message AOL and Rottsweb have been feuding as far back as I can remember Other servers who have a lot of probelms with Rootsweb are CC.com which I think may be the same as compuserve, msn, of course aol, plus a few more smaller servers Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* RIGenWeb County Coordinator: Kent County Rhode Island: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ Washington County Rhode Island: http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ ********************************************************************* List Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List ********************************************************************* Maguire Genealogy Site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amaguire/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] PROBLEMS WITH AOL > To those Listers reporting problems with AOL, an article I've just > read in the local paper may explain....partially, or wholly, the reason; > to wit: Soon companies will have to buy the electronic equivalent of > a postage stamp if they want to be certain their E-mail will be de- > livered to many of their customers. (snipped)

Hello, I missed the original posting on a photographer, named LORING, so I don't know if the well-known photography studios in the 1960's, etc., named "Loring Studios" has been discussed. I was just wondering if they were separate photography-studios - or one and the same ! I just did a quick Google search and couldn't find a web site for Loring Studios, but I did find them mentioned on this web page: Ahhh...that reminds me of a story: how to clear out a professional multi-station darkroom in under 2 minutes. Back in the early 60's, I worked in the lab for Loring Studios - an east-coast U.S. portrait studio chain. They had about 25 studios throughout the east, and the lab did the processing and printing for all of them. Most of the work was machine-processed, but some of the better (read: more expensive) work was hand-done. At this point, I was the guy doing the developing of all the non-machine work. This ranged from yearbook candids (quickly .............. Also, I know there would be a lot of debate on this subject, and, depending on how important the "old photograph" is, but one suggestion was given to my mother many years ago: If the photographer's name is printed in a very bottom corner of a photograph, very carefully, very neatly trim the name off ! And, if you want very special reproductions of a "wonderful old photo," you probably wouldn't want to "do it yourself," but those "make copies of photos yourself at the local pharmacies" - don't do such a bad job ! I just finished looking at the web sites for "Loring Studios" and found a comment by someone who said that he made some good copies of an old photo from Loring Studios by scanning it and printing it out on "photography paper" (kind sold in office-supply stores). In the same discussion, someone said that, unless stated otherwise on the photo, after 25 years, something like a "yearbook photo" is no longer copyrighted. I saw references to "Loring Studios" up until about the 1980's, and someone saying they thought the studio went out of business since then ! And, if they are out of business, there is not a copyright problem ! Hope this helps ! Betty (near Lowell, MA) (I just checked my high school yearbook and those photos were taken by "Purdy Studios" in Boston.)

I had the same problem trying to get my H.S. composite picture copied. It was rolled up for many years and then something placed on top of it which really creased it horribly. It too was done by Loring's. I took it to Kinko's and Target and they would not copy it. I tried to explain that the company was out of business and the owner dead, but they still wouldn't do it. I decided to take a picture of it with my digital camera. It wasn't a perfect solution as it was still damaged. I tried to enhance it but there were so many creases that it was almost impossible to get them out. I'd give my eye teeth to pay Loring's (if they were still in business) for a copy of it. Anyway, my point...see if a digital camera would work. It's worth a try. Nancy

I had a photo of my grandmother taking at Lorings and copied it myself in one of those Kodak machines at Savon which is like your CVS. I also have copied others at WalMart. The first time I needed instructions, but it is pretty easy to do by yourself. Nancy

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In a message dated 2/5/2006 8:37:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, sls91750@cox.net writes: I was able to help her find some info but she has sent me SO much more that I could have ever hoped for considering how difficult some of these Swedish names can be to trace! I have the exact birth date of my great-grandfather, his parents names, his mother's parents a few lines or two back. Same for my great-grandmother! I now exactly when they left Sweden and in 1882 their destination was Providence, RI! I am just so thrilled! Thanks to Anna!! Sheila, that is great news. I have a couple of coworkers who have had to deal with Swedish genealogy and it's been quite a challenge for them! My great great grandfather, George Henry Hersey, married a Swedish lady as his second wife and had several children with her - I've found her father's name but nothing beyond that. I descend from the other marriage to a woman whose parents were English convicts deported to Aussie land. That one has also been a challenge since the surname is Lee - not as common as Smith, but it is up there! I've always wondered how the Lees ended up here in RI after leaving Australia! Donna

Dear List, Where can I find a list of the children of James Adams of Westerly, RI? The information I have seen indicates that James was married to Honor Hall. Any help is appreciated. Kent Elam

Deb, I don't know anything about adoptions in RI, except about a situation friends of mine faced about the same time you were adopted. Following a divorce, the new husband wanted to adopt his wife's daughter by her previous husband -- this was accomplished and a new birth certificate issued that replaced the girl's birth father 's name with that of her adopted father, without explanation, and thus making her appear illegitimate. They were not happy with the solution, and that record will certainly confound genealogists in the future. I know someone who used to do a lot of adoption work here in Mass., but I don't know if he knows anything about RI or is still able to -- but if you want to contact me off list I can give you his e-mail address. He might have a suggestion. Years ago it used to be possible to "cheat" while looking at records at the Mass Vital Registry in Boston, and many of us did it from time to time, using various techniques to peek at "forbidden records." I managed to identify my son's [then] girl friend's mother that way, and got mother and daughter together, but it never worked very well because the mother (who was the absolute image of her daughter) had had later children and didn't want them to know she'd had one before her marriage. These things can be tricky, even as late as 1969. Attitudes have changed so much it's difficult for the younger generation to understand. Best of luck to you .. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb & Chris" <dcsoracco@optonline.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] adoption > > > Hi Listers, > > > > This may be a little off topic but I need the help of native RI'ers. I was > born 3-1-69 in Prov and adopted around April. I've put my name in the > voluntary registry with no luck. I believe my birthmother's name may have > been Karen (and that's a guess) and she would have been a junior in HS. > I've contacted the adoption agency and have received non identifying info. > My record indicates that my record has been "updated with identifying info" > but by law they cannot supply it to me. Obviously I'm frustrated that 2 > adults who would like to meet.cannot. I've gone to the adoption agency and > even asked if they could call my birthmother and tell her about the passive > registry.sadly that is against the law and they cannot. I've put an ad in > the Prov paper 2 or 3 years ago with no results. > > > > Any ideas anyone? Is there access to yearbooks in any of the local > libraries? I subscribe to adoption.com and have registered again with no > luck. > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > Deb > > Milford, CT > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html > RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm > >

On 2/5/06 8:19 PM, "DonnaRNCEN@aol.com" <DonnaRNCEN@aol.com> wrote: > Hi Sheila, > That book sounds like it something most of us doing RI research could use! > I will check for it in the NK library. Thanks, Donna Donna, You will love it. If NK doesn't have it, EG probably does. It is a great book and so helpful and informative and sometimes will make you laugh! There is also a large map included in the back of the book. I remember first finding it and checking out Mashantatack and Tosekunke. I have left the Indian names behind for a while and am into Swedish names, parishes, etc as I am now working on my Swedish heritage. I had answered a post on RIGENWEB a few weeks ago where Anna (from Sweden) was looking for info on ancestors living on Zone Street in Providence. My Swedish great-grandparents lived on that street, I was able to help her find some info but she has sent me SO much more that I could have ever hoped for considering how difficult some of these Swedish names can be to trace! I have the exact birth date of my great-grandfather, his parents names, his mother's parents a few lines or two back. Same for my great-grandmother! I now now exactly when they left Sweden and in 1882 their destination was Providence, RI! I am just so thrilled! Thanks to Anna!! Sheila

Hi Listers, This may be a little off topic but I need the help of native RI'ers. I was born 3-1-69 in Prov and adopted around April. I've put my name in the voluntary registry with no luck. I believe my birthmother's name may have been Karen (and that's a guess) and she would have been a junior in HS. I've contacted the adoption agency and have received non identifying info. My record indicates that my record has been "updated with identifying info" but by law they cannot supply it to me. Obviously I'm frustrated that 2 adults who would like to meet.cannot. I've gone to the adoption agency and even asked if they could call my birthmother and tell her about the passive registry.sadly that is against the law and they cannot. I've put an ad in the Prov paper 2 or 3 years ago with no results. Any ideas anyone? Is there access to yearbooks in any of the local libraries? I subscribe to adoption.com and have registered again with no luck. Any help appreciated. Deb Milford, CT

In a message dated 2/5/2006 8:32:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, sls91750@cox.net writes: Hi Donna, There is a great book by Sidney S. Rider. I would think most libraries have it and it lists every name of a place, brook, stream, etc as it was known by the Indians and various spellings and sometimes will reference specific deeds where you might find this name mentioned. "The Lands of Rhode Island as They Were Known to Caunounicus and Miatunnomu When Roger Williams Came in 1636" Sheila Hi Sheila, That book sounds like it something most of us doing RI research could use! I will check for it in the NK library. Thanks, Donna

In a message dated 2/5/2006 12:15:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com writes: HI! I replied to this question: "Where is/was it?" last week in a posting to this list. Hi Bill, I actually made an error when I titled my post - I was looking for the Indian Road and not Indian River. Charlie and Sheila have provided me with several references and info that lead me to think that the Indian Road was what we now know as Rte 1. I missed your posting initially as I am one of those whose mail got held up by AOL. Thanks for helping out - I am very familiar with the Saugatucket/Indian Lake area. Donna