Hi Jan, Ruth is buried in the cemetery near her parents - there is no male nearby that looks to be a possible husband for her so I am thinking she may have died single. If you can find SKS who can check the local newspaper archives they may find an obit for her which might help. Donna > > From: janrobison2@aim.com > Date: 2006/03/17 Fri PM 05:03:57 EST > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Children of George Bradford Carpenter, b. 8 Nov. 1842 > > Hi, all, > > I usually just lurk in the background... > > George Bradford Carpenter was my 2nd great grandfather, b. 8 Nov 1842, d. 23 May 1914 in Ashaway, RI. > > He married Mary Elizabeth Covey, b. 6 Aug. 1846 and d. 13 Jan 1926. > > They had 8 children. I have the names of 5: > > Mary E. Carpenter > Harriet Well Carpenter, b. 24 Sep 1865 ( I have her info) My great grandmother! > Edwin Grant Carpenter, b. 9 Feb 1869, Ashaway, RI, d. 1953 > Frances Adelle Carpenter, b. 30 Apr 1874 Ashaway, RI > Ruth Marion Carpenter, b. 5 Oct 1885, Ashaway, RI, d. 1967 > > Should any of you have ANY information for any of these sibs, I would greatly appreciate knowing! They have been a mystery to me for years now. > > Many thanks!! > > Jan Robison > Sanford, Florida > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hi Jan, In 1910 there was an Edwin G. Carpenter, age 41, married to an Elizabeth, age 37. Elizabeth was born in NY as were here parents and Edwin G was born in RI as were his parents. They were living in Elizabethtown, Carter County, TN. No occupation was listed for Edwin and the couple had no children. They had been married for 15 years. This is from the 1910 census. In 1920 they were in Florence, SC - still no kids. He was in the dairy business at that time. Donna > > From: janrobison2@aim.com > Date: 2006/03/17 Fri PM 05:03:57 EST > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Children of George Bradford Carpenter, b. 8 Nov. 1842 > > Hi, all, > > I usually just lurk in the background... > > George Bradford Carpenter was my 2nd great grandfather, b. 8 Nov 1842, d. 23 May 1914 in Ashaway, RI. > > He married Mary Elizabeth Covey, b. 6 Aug. 1846 and d. 13 Jan 1926. > > They had 8 children. I have the names of 5: > > Mary E. Carpenter > Harriet Well Carpenter, b. 24 Sep 1865 ( I have her info) My great grandmother! > Edwin Grant Carpenter, b. 9 Feb 1869, Ashaway, RI, d. 1953 > Frances Adelle Carpenter, b. 30 Apr 1874 Ashaway, RI > Ruth Marion Carpenter, b. 5 Oct 1885, Ashaway, RI, d. 1967 > > Should any of you have ANY information for any of these sibs, I would greatly appreciate knowing! They have been a mystery to me for years now. > > Many thanks!! > > Jan Robison > Sanford, Florida > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Lisa: Your mention of 'corporal punishment' in the schools brings me back to the 1940's when I was in grammar school & the teachers were all spinster ladies. One had a leather strap which was always in view on her desk; another had a 3ft hardwood yardstick with a metal edge which was always 'handy.' A third always carried the blackboard pointer with her, which I remember well, as I was un- ceremoniously 'whacked on the head' with it once for 'allegedly' not paying attention. AND, I didn't run home to tell my parents about it either. I'm sure others have similar memories. BILL in CT -------------------------------------------------------------- Margaret - It never really occurred to me that children were considered property or that they were on the same level as animals. there seems to be enough evidence to say Bailey intended to kill Pollock, so in that regard it is different than the Brown case. After Donna's message, I realized that it wasn't really that long ago that we still allowed corporal punishment in the schools. Thanks for your input on this subject, Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. E. Potter" <potter@inch.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock and Brown Murders > I think Donna has hit on the main reason -- lack of legal protection for > children in that time, especially one too young to be able to work--thus a > child with no economic value. But one factor may have been intent and > premeditation (or lack of it). Counsel for Brown may have argued that > Brown did not intend to kill the child--that he went into a wild rage, > etc. Whereas Bailey intended to kill Pollock and may have planned the > murder in advance. The witness who testified that Bailey said that either > he or Pollock would be dead soon could have established > premeditation. This is just speculation, but intent and premeditation have > been factors in considering degrees of guilt for centuries. > > Margaret > > At 11:11 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote: > >Hi Lisa, > > I do know that there were no laws regarding child abuse until after > > about 1875 when a little girl named Mary Ellen was abused in NYC. The > > perpetrators were convicted under animal abuse laws with the argument > > that a child is technically an animal. We had laws protecting animals > > before we had child abuse statutes. Children were considered property by > > many and child abuse was not really recognized as a serious problem until > > the mid 1900s when Helfer and Kempe published their work on the Battered > > Child Syndrome. Even now the punishment for abuse (that does not result > > in death) is as little as 30 days in jail in one state! > > I am guessing that this little girl may have been poor, perhaps > > orphaned or otherwise disenfranchised, and had no one to adv

Wow Jean - No dull ancestors in your family! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "JeanB" <gentlesunset@cox.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Re: Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > I want to thank everyone that answered my query and sent the info on the > murder...certainly was interesting...now, if we only could get our hands on > that pamphlet that told about it...and about the murder of Jeremiahs > brother..hummmmmm....I certainly have a family full of murders or murderers > in some way or another..my ancetor John Billington was the 1st person > executed here on this soil for the murder of John Newcombe...his son Francis > almost blew up the Mayflower by shooting of his musket near the gun powder > on the ship, and his son John got lost in the woods and lived with Indians > for a month....LOL.... > Then this Pollock mess and of course my Gr Gr Grandfather John Snyder Dodd > in West Virginia was acquited of murder after he killed a circus worker that > had kidnapped his young daughter and had her working in the circus.... > > Wonder what else I can find....Hey, if nothing else I have a colorful bunch > of ancestors... > > Thanks again..Jean > > >>> > >>> From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > >>> Date: 2006/03/15 Wed PM 11:15:45 EST > >>> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > >>> > >>> Thanks for posting these fascinating articles. > >>> > >>> I don't understand why in this case Adonijah Baily > >>> was sentenced to death, but in the case of Mr. > >>> Brown, posted the other day, he got off virtually > >>> scott free. > >>> > >>> Was the life of child not valued as much as that of > >>> an adult man? Or, was it that corporal punishment > >>> was an accepted activity, but in the Brown case, > >>> the child *unfortunately* died? > >>> > >>> It would be interesting to know if anyone has studied > >>> the court cases of this time period to see what types > >>> of sentences were imposed for what types of crimes. > >>> > >>> Lisa > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: M. E. Potter > >>> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:50 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Jean, > >>> > >>> All of the following are from the same source, "Early American > >>> Newspapers, > >>> Series I, 1690 to 1876" available to members on the NEHGS website. > >>> > >>> First, the following popped up (in case you don't already know this): > >>> > >>> From the Rhode-Island Republican, Vol.. 13, Iss. 27, pg. 4, > >>> 1821-10-03: > >>> > >>> "WASHINGTON, ss. -- Supreme Judicial Court / October term, A. D. 1820. > >>> / > >>> WHEREAS Marvel Pollock of Exeter, in the county of Washington, wife of > >>> Jeremiah W. Pollock, now residing in parts unknown, has this day filed > >>> her > >>> petition, in my Office, praying, for certain reasons therein stated, > >>> that > >>> the bonds of matrimony subsisting between her and the said Jeremiah, > >>> may be > >>> dissolved. Notice is hereby given to the said Jeremiah, to be and > >>> appear, > >>> if he see fit, before the Honorable Supreme Judicial Court to be > >>> holden, at > >>> South-Kingstown, within and for the county of Washington, on the > >>> second > >>> Monday of October, 1821, to shew [sic] cause why the prayer of said > >>> petition, ought not to be granted. / JOHN SEGAR, Clerk. / South > >>> Kingstown, > >>> Aug. 18, 1821 [S.12]" > >>> > >>> [If you don't already have the divorce papers, you can get them, free > >>> of > >>> charge, by emailing <archives@courts.ri.gov> ] > >>> > >>> > >>> From the Norwich Courier, Vol. III, Iss. 42, pg. 3, 1825-01-19: > >>> "Trial > >>> for Murder. -- On Wednesday last, came on the trial of Adonijah > >>> Bailey, > >>> aged 80 years, for the murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, at the Superior > >>> Court, holden at Brooklyn -- Judges Peters and Brainard presiding. The > >>> jury > >>> retired about 20 minutes, and returned with a verdict of GUILTY. / We > >>> understand that the counsel for the prisoner have in arrest of > >>> judgment on > >>> the ground of one of the jurors not being a freeholder, and petitioned > >>> for > >>> a new trial on account of the misdirection of the Judge." > >>> > >>> > >>> From the Middlesex Gazette, Vol. XL, Iss. 2044 , pg. 2, > >>> 1825-01-26: "DOMESTIC. / On Wednesday last, the trial of Adonijah > >>> Baily > >>> [sic] for the murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, commenced at Brooklyn, in > >>> the > >>> county of Windham, and terminated on Friday evening. So much interest > >>> had > >>> been excited, that before the trial commenced, the town was thronged > >>> with > >>> people from all parts of the County. The Hon. Judge PETERS presided at > >>> the > >>> trial. When Bailey was brought in to plead, great anxiety was > >>> manifested to > >>> witness the solemn scene. The prisoner was brought in by the Sheriff > >>> and > >>> his deputies, and as he approached the bar of justice, at the age of > >>> 79, > >>> halting with infirmity, every soul present seemed deeply affected, > >>> exoept > >>> [sic] the prisoner, who though attentive was unmoved. The case was > >>> conducted on the part of the State, by Col. JUDSON, State Attorney, > >>> assisted by Wm. P. CLEAVELAND, Esq.; and on the part of the prisoner > >>> by C. > >>> GODDARD, and J. EATON, Esquires. / The testimony disclosed the most > >>> cruel > >>> and awful murder that has taken place in the State of Connecticut for > >>> many > >>> years. The substance of the testimony was as follows: -- / Pollock had > >>> for > >>> some weeks been at work at Baileys, in the town of Sterling, and on > >>> the 23d > >>> of Oct. last, Pollock was missing: search was made from day to day for > >>> the > >>> body, until Nov. 3d when it was found buried, one foot deep, eight > >>> rods > >>> from the place where Bailey and Pollock had been at work. On taking > >>> the > >>> body from the ground, it appeared that four wounds were made on the > >>> back > >>> part of the head, cut through the scull [sic] with an axe. Eight > >>> witnesses > >>> testified that Bailey said he was with Pollock, making shingles until > >>> 11 > >>> o'clock on the 23d of Oct. when Pollock went away, to go to a > >>> neighbouring > >>> store, and that he, Bailey, stayed to work till late dinner time, and > >>> immediately returned and continued work there all day. Traces of blood > >>> were > >>> discovered from the shingle place, to the place where the body was > >>> found, > >>> and a fire had been kindled with a view to burn up the bloody > >>> shavings, but > >>> many were found partly consumed and others covered up, all this within > >>> 30 > >>> rods of Bailey's house. Bailey was asked whether there was any fire on > >>> the > >>> spot on the day Pollock was missing, repeatedly said there was none, > >>> could > >>> not have been any, as he was in a situation to know, being there all > >>> the > >>> time. It was then proved beyond all doubt that a fire was seen to be > >>> kindled around the shingle place about 2 o'clock P. M. which remained > >>> to > >>> burn some time. On searching Bailey, a note and order belonging to > >>> Pollock > >>> were found in his possession. Pollock's trunk was found open, and all > >>> its > >>> contents taken out, and some papers belonging to Pollock were thrown > >>> into > >>> the fire, and identified, some of them were taken off by a witness > >>> before > >>> consumed. When Pollock was last seen he had money with him and Bailey > >>> was > >>> destitute of any, until after Pollock's death, when he passed money at > >>> the > >>> store, to a considerable amount. Pollock's pocket-book and watch have > >>> never > >>> been found. One witness swore that about 10 days before Pollock was > >>> murdered, Bailey said 'that he or Pollock should die soon.' After > >>> Bailey's > >>> arrest and while under the care of the officer he tried to bribe his > >>> keepers and get away from them. -- These together with many other > >>> circumstances rendered his case entirely hopeless. After a protracted > >>> trial > >>> of three days, the cause was committed to the Jury, who returned a > >>> verdict > >>> of GUILTY. / The next day the prisoner was set at the bar to receive > >>> sentence, and being asked whether he had any reasons why sentence of > >>> death > >>> should not be pronounced, the prisoner replied with perfect coolness, > >>> that > >>> 'he had none, for he was willing to submit to the law.' / Judge Peters > >>> then > >>> proceeded in a most solemn and impressive manner to conclude the > >>> scene. The > >>> sentence was pronounced, and the execution is to take place the 2d > >>> Wednesday of June next. -- N. L. Advocate." > >>> > >>> From the Rhode Island American, Vol. XVII, Iss. 35, pg. 2, > >>> 1825-01-28: "At a recent term of the Supreme Court of Connecticut in > >>> Windham county, Adonijah Bailey, aged eighty years, was convicted of > >>> the > >>> murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, and sentenced to be executed on the 8th > >>> of > >>> June next. It is stated that the testimony disclosed the most cruel > >>> and > >>> awful murder that has been committed in Connecticut for many years." > >>> > >>> From the Middlesex Gazette, Vol. XL, Iss. 2062, pg. 3, 1825-06-01: > >>> "On > >>> the night of the 24th inst. Adonijah Bailey who was sentenced to be > >>> executed on the 8th day of June next, for the murder of Jeremiah W. > >>> Pollock, evaded the sentence of the Judge by hanging himself, during > >>> the > >>> silence of the night in the dreary mansion of the Goal [sic], without > >>> any > >>> one to assist him. He made his rope of bandages which he took from his > >>> sore > >>> leg, and attached one end of it by a nail to the hinge of the door, > >>> and the > >>> other part of the rope round his neck, he was found hanging with his > >>> knees > >>> nearly to the floor, when the Goaler [sic] entered his room in the > >>> morning, > >>> the body was interred on Thursday. / Since his death we understand the > >>> Gaoler has found many papers in the room where he was confined which > >>> contain his confession of many black crimes, and among which, is the > >>> murder > >>> of Jeremiah W. Pollock, he has confessed how and in what manner he > >>> committed the bloody deed but not the cause, all of which will soon > >>> appear > >>> in a pamphlet containing also his trial. -- Brooklyn Obser." > >>> > >>> > >>> Perhaps you can track down that pamphlet, if it was ever actually > >>> published. Maybe a local historical society would have a copy. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Margaret > >>> > >>> > >>> At 07:49 AM 3/15/2006, you wrote: > >>> >Hi Gang, > >>> >Here is another murder nightmare that I have in my genealogy. Maybe > >>> one of > >>> >you that have all this access to these great books can find > >>> something. > >>> >I certainly would appreciate it... > >>> >Jeremiah Wilson Pollock is my 5th gr grandfather..B 1769 > >>> Wakefield...died 23 > >>> >Oct 1824 Sterling, CT > >>> >Per Arnold...Jeremiah Wilson Pollock was a postal carrier and Whig > >>> >Also he was murdered in Sterling, Ct. as was his brother 2 months > >>> prior. > >>> >Wonder if the murders are related. > >>> > > >>> >Sincerely, Jean B > >>> > > >>>

Please send me a copy. We have written before. Zelma AndersonZeand@aol.com

Thanks for posting this, Bonnie. These historical items are really necessary to understand what was going on the times. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:22 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Humane Society > That was really interesting, and since we belong to the Toronto Humane > Society, and they were established in 1887 with the following criteria: > Stop cruelty to children > Rescue children from vicious influences and remedy their conditions > Put humane literature into schools and homes > Induce children to become humane > Stop beating animals > Stop overloading street cars and wagons > (all pulled by horses) > Stop working old horses > Stop driving galled and disabled animals > Introduce drinking fountains for horses > Prevent the clipping of horses, docking of tails > Prevent the use of check rein/ burr bit > Prevent the exposure of uncovered horses in cold weather > Prevent the underfeeding and overdriving of horses and cattle > Bonnie >

Jeesh - I had no idea. Thanks for this information. I need to study up on this subject. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > When my mother and her siblings were taken from their mother for being > abused it ws the Humane Society that took them. They handled both > animal and children's cases. This was in 1914. > > Quoting Donna Potter <uriramfan@cox.net>: > > > Hi Lisa, > > I do know that there were no laws regarding child abuse until after > > about 1875 when a little girl named Mary Ellen was abused in NYC. The > > perpetrators were convicted under animal abuse laws with the argument > > that a child is technically an animal. We had laws protecting animals > > before we had child abuse statutes. Children were considered property > > by many and child abuse was not really recognized as a serious > > problem until the mid 1900s when Helfer and Kempe published their > > work on the Battered Child Syndrome. Even now the punishment for > > abuse (that does not result in death) is as little as 30 days in jail > > in one state! > > I am guessing that this little girl may have been poor, perhaps > > orphaned or otherwise disenfranchised, and had no one to advocate for > > stronger punishment and that may be part of it. Hopefully the > > Judicial Records archives will find the case and there will be more > > information in there. > > Interestingly, I found that several of William C. Brown's own > > children died young - perhaps it was due to disease but I have to > > wonder... > > Donna > >> > >> From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > >> Date: 2006/03/15 Wed PM 11:15:45 EST > >> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > >> > >> Thanks for posting these fascinating articles. > >> > >> I don't understand why in this case Adonijah Baily > >> was sentenced to death, but in the case of Mr. > >> Brown, posted the other day, he got off virtually > >> scott free. > >> > >> Was the life of child not valued as much as that of > >> an adult man? Or, was it that corporal punishment > >> was an accepted activity, but in the Brown case, > >> the child *unfortunately* died? > >> > >> It would be interesting to know if anyone has studied > >> the court cases of this time period to see what types > >> of sentences were imposed for what types of crimes. > >> > >> Lisa > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: M. E. Potter > >> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:50 PM > >> Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > >> > >> > >> Hi Jean, > >> > >> All of the following are from the same source, "Early American > >> Newspapers, > >> Series I, 1690 to 1876" available to members on the NEHGS website. > >> > >> First, the following popped up (in case you don't already know this): > >> > >> From the Rhode-Island Republican, Vol.. 13, Iss. 27, pg. 4, > >> 1821-10-03: > >> > >> "WASHINGTON, ss. -- Supreme Judicial Court / October term, A. D. 1820. > >> / > >> WHEREAS Marvel Pollock of Exeter, in the county of Washington, wife of > >> Jeremiah W. Pollock, now residing in parts unknown, has this day filed > >> her > >> petition, in my Office, praying, for certain reasons therein stated, > >> that > >> the bonds of matrimony subsisting between her and the said Jeremiah, > >> may be > >> dissolved. Notice is hereby given to the said Jeremiah, to be and > >> appear, > >> if he see fit, before the Honorable Supreme Judicial Court to be > >> holden, at > >> South-Kingstown, within and for the county of Washington, on the > >> second > >> Monday of October, 1821, to shew [sic] cause why the prayer of said > >> petition, ought not to be granted. / JOHN SEGAR, Clerk. / South > >> Kingstown, > >> Aug. 18, 1821 [S.12]" > >> > >> [If you don't already have the divorce papers, you can get them, free > >> of > >> charge, by emailing <archives@courts.ri.gov> ] > >> > >> > >> From the Norwich Courier, Vol. III, Iss. 42, pg. 3, 1825-01-19: > >> "Trial > >> for Murder. -- On Wednesday last, came on the trial of Adonijah > >> Bailey, > >> aged 80 years, for the murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, at the Superior > >> Court, holden at Brooklyn -- Judges Peters and Brainard presiding. The > >> jury > >> retired about 20 minutes, and returned with a verdict of GUILTY. / We > >> understand that the counsel for the prisoner have in arrest of > >> judgment on > >> the ground of one of the jurors not being a freeholder, and petitioned > >> for > >> a new trial on account of the misdirection of the Judge." > >> > >> > >> From the Middlesex Gazette, Vol. XL, Iss. 2044 , pg. 2, > >> 1825-01-26: "DOMESTIC. / On Wednesday last, the trial of Adonijah > >> Baily > >> [sic] for the murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, commenced at Brooklyn, in > >> the > >> county of Windham, and terminated on Friday evening. So much interest > >> had > >> been excited, that before the trial commenced, the town was thronged > >> with > >> people from all parts of the County. The Hon. Judge PETERS presided at > >> the > >> trial. When Bailey was brought in to plead, great anxiety was > >> manifested to > >> witness the solemn scene. The prisoner was brought in by the Sheriff > >> and > >> his deputies, and as he approached the bar of justice, at the age of > >> 79, > >> halting with infirmity, every soul present seemed deeply affected, > >> exoept > >> [sic] the prisoner, who though attentive was unmoved. The case was > >> conducted on the part of the State, by Col. JUDSON, State Attorney, > >> assisted by Wm. P. CLEAVELAND, Esq.; and on the part of the prisoner > >> by C. > >> GODDARD, and J. EATON, Esquires. / The testimony disclosed the most > >> cruel > >> and awful murder that has taken place in the State of Connecticut for > >> many > >> years. The substance of the testimony was as follows: -- / Pollock had > >> for > >> some weeks been at work at Baileys, in the town of Sterling, and on > >> the 23d > >> of Oct. last, Pollock was missing: search was made from day to day for > >> the > >> body, until Nov. 3d when it was found buried, one foot deep, eight > >> rods > >> from the place where Bailey and Pollock had been at work. On taking > >> the > >> body from the ground, it appeared that four wounds were made on the > >> back > >> part of the head, cut through the scull [sic] with an axe. Eight > >> witnesses > >> testified that Bailey said he was with Pollock, making shingles until > >> 11 > >> o'clock on the 23d of Oct. when Pollock went away, to go to a > >> neighbouring > >> store, and that he, Bailey, stayed to work till late dinner time, and > >> immediately returned and continued work there all day. Traces of blood > >> were > >> discovered from the shingle place, to the place where the body was > >> found, > >> and a fire had been kindled with a view to burn up the bloody > >> shavings, but > >> many were found partly consumed and others covered up, all this within > >> 30 > >> rods of Bailey's house. Bailey was asked whether there was any fire on > >> the > >> spot on the day Pollock was missing, repeatedly said there was none, > >> could > >> not have been any, as he was in a situation to know, being there all > >> the > >> time. It was then proved beyond all doubt that a fire was seen to be > >> kindled around the shingle place about 2 o'clock P. M. which remained > >> to > >> burn some time. On searching Bailey, a note and order belonging to > >> Pollock > >> were found in his possession. Pollock's trunk was found open, and all > >> its > >> contents taken out, and some papers belonging to Pollock were thrown > >> into > >> the fire, and identified, some of them were taken off by a witness > >> before > >> consumed. When Pollock was last seen he had money with him and Bailey > >> was > >> destitute of any, until after Pollock's death, when he passed money at > >> the > >> store, to a considerable amount. Pollock's pocket-book and watch have > >> never > >> been found. One witness swore that about 10 days before Pollock was > >> murdered, Bailey said 'that he or Pollock should die soon.' After > >> Bailey's > >> arrest and while under the care of the officer he tried to bribe his > >> keepers and get away from them. -- These together with many other > >> circumstances rendered his case entirely hopeless. After a protracted > >> trial > >> of three days, the cause was committed to the Jury, who returned a > >> verdict > >> of GUILTY. / The next day the prisoner was set at the bar to receive > >> sentence, and being asked whether he had any reasons why sentence of > >> death > >> should not be pronounced, the prisoner replied with perfect coolness, > >> that > >> 'he had none, for he was willing to submit to the law.' / Judge Peters > >> then > >> proceeded in a most solemn and impressive manner to conclude the > >> scene. The > >> sentence was pronounced, and the execution is to take place the 2d > >> Wednesday of June next. -- N. L. Advocate." > >> > >> From the Rhode Island American, Vol. XVII, Iss. 35, pg. 2, > >> 1825-01-28: "At a recent term of the Supreme Court of Connecticut in > >> Windham county, Adonijah Bailey, aged eighty years, was convicted of > >> the > >> murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, and sentenced to be executed on the 8th > >> of > >> June next. It is stated that the testimony disclosed the most cruel > >> and > >> awful murder that has been committed in Connecticut for many years." > >> > >> From the Middlesex Gazette, Vol. XL, Iss. 2062, pg. 3, 1825-06-01: > >> "On > >> the night of the 24th inst. Adonijah Bailey who was sentenced to be > >> executed on the 8th day of June next, for the murder of Jeremiah W. > >> Pollock, evaded the sentence of the Judge by hanging himself, during > >> the > >> silence of the night in the dreary mansion of the Goal [sic], without > >> any > >> one to assist him. He made his rope of bandages which he took from his > >> sore > >> leg, and attached one end of it by a nail to the hinge of the door, > >> and the > >> other part of the rope round his neck, he was found hanging with his > >> knees > >> nearly to the floor, when the Goaler [sic] entered his room in the > >> morning, > >> the body was interred on Thursday. / Since his death we understand the > >> Gaoler has found many papers in the room where he was confined which > >> contain his confession of many black crimes, and among which, is the > >> murder > >> of Jeremiah W. Pollock, he has confessed how and in what manner he > >> committed the bloody deed but not the cause, all of which will soon > >> appear > >> in a pamphlet containing also his trial. -- Brooklyn Obser." > >> > >> > >> Perhaps you can track down that pamphlet, if it was ever actually > >> published. Maybe a local historical society would have a copy. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Margaret > >> > >> > >> At 07:49 AM 3/15/2006, you wrote: > >> >Hi Gang, > >> >Here is another murder nightmare that I have in my genealogy. Maybe > >> one of > >> >you that have all this access to these great books can find > >> something. > >> >I certainly would appreciate it... > >> >Jeremiah Wilson Pollock is my 5th gr grandfather..B 1769 > >> Wakefield...died 23 > >> >Oct 1824 Sterling, CT > >> >Per Arnold...Jeremiah Wilson Pollock was a postal carrier and Whig > >> >Also he was murdered in Sterling, Ct. as was his brother 2 months > >> prior. > >> >Wonder if the murders are related. > >> > > >> >Sincerely, Jean B > >> >

Margaret - It never really occurred to me that children were considered property or that they were on the same level as animals. there seems to be enough evidence to say Bailey intended to kill Pollock, so in that regard it is different than the Brown case. After Donna's message, I realized that it wasn't really that long ago that we still allowed corporal punishment in the schools. Thanks for your input on this subject, Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. E. Potter" <potter@inch.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock and Brown Murders > I think Donna has hit on the main reason -- lack of legal protection for > children in that time, especially one too young to be able to work--thus a > child with no economic value. But one factor may have been intent and > premeditation (or lack of it). Counsel for Brown may have argued that > Brown did not intend to kill the child--that he went into a wild rage, > etc. Whereas Bailey intended to kill Pollock and may have planned the > murder in advance. The witness who testified that Bailey said that either > he or Pollock would be dead soon could have established > premeditation. This is just speculation, but intent and premeditation have > been factors in considering degrees of guilt for centuries. > > Margaret > > At 11:11 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote: > >Hi Lisa, > > I do know that there were no laws regarding child abuse until after > > about 1875 when a little girl named Mary Ellen was abused in NYC. The > > perpetrators were convicted under animal abuse laws with the argument > > that a child is technically an animal. We had laws protecting animals > > before we had child abuse statutes. Children were considered property by > > many and child abuse was not really recognized as a serious problem until > > the mid 1900s when Helfer and Kempe published their work on the Battered > > Child Syndrome. Even now the punishment for abuse (that does not result > > in death) is as little as 30 days in jail in one state! > > I am guessing that this little girl may have been poor, perhaps > > orphaned or otherwise disenfranchised, and had no one to advocate for > > stronger punishment and that may be part of it. Hopefully the Judicial > > Records archives will find the case and there will be more information in > > there. > > Interestingly, I found that several of William C. Brown's own children > > died young - perhaps it was due to disease but I have to wonder... > > Donna > > > > > > From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > > > Date: 2006/03/15 Wed PM 11:15:45 EST > > > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > > > > > > Thanks for posting these fascinating articles. > > > > > > I don't understand why in this case Adonijah Baily > > > was sentenced to death, but in the case of Mr. > > > Brown, posted the other day, he got off virtually > > > scott free. > > > > > > Was the life of child not valued as much as that of > > > an adult man? Or, was it that corporal punishment > > > was an accepted activity, but in the Brown case, > > > the child *unfortunately* died? > > > > > > It would be interesting to know if anyone has studied > > > the court cases of this time period to see what types > > > of sentences were imposed for what types of crimes. > > > > > > Lisa > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: M. E. Potter > > > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:50 PM > > > Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Pollock Murder -- The Scoop > > > > > > > > > Hi Jean, > > > > > > All of the following are from the same source, "Early American > > > Newspapers, > > > Series I, 1690 to 1876" available to members on the NEHGS website. > > > > > > First, the following popped up (in case you don't already know this): > > > > > > From the Rhode-Island Republican, Vol.. 13, Iss. 27, pg. 4, > > > 1821-10-03: > > > > > > "WASHINGTON, ss. -- Supreme Judicial Court / October term, A. D. 1820. > > > / > > > WHEREAS Marvel Pollock of Exeter, in the county of Washington, wife of > > > Jeremiah W. Pollock, now residing in parts unknown, has this day filed > > > her > > > petition, in my Office, praying, for certain reasons therein stated, > > > that > > > the bonds of matrimony subsisting between her and the said Jeremiah, > > > may be > > > dissolved. Notice is hereby given to the said Jeremiah, to be and > > > appear, > > > if he see fit, before the Honorable Supreme Judicial Court to be > > > holden, at > > > South-Kingstown, within and for the county of Washington, on the > > > second > > > Monday of October, 1821, to shew [sic] cause why the prayer of said > > > petition, ought not to be granted. / JOHN SEGAR, Clerk. / South > > > Kingstown, > > > Aug. 18, 1821 [S.12]" > > > > > > [If you don't already have the divorce papers, you can get them, free > > > of > > > charge, by emailing <archives@courts.ri.gov> ] > > > > > > > > > From the Norwich Courier, Vol. III, Iss. 42, pg. 3, 1825-01-19: > > > "Trial > > > for Murder. -- On Wednesday last, came on the trial of Adonijah > > > Bailey, > > > aged 80 years, for the murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, at the Superior > > > Court, holden at Brooklyn -- Judges Peters and Brainard presiding. The > > > jury > > > retired about 20 minutes, and returned with a verdict of GUILTY. / We > > > understand that the counsel for the prisoner have in arrest of > > > judgment on > > > the ground of one of the jurors not being a freeholder, and petitioned > > > for > > > a new trial on account of the misdirection of the Judge." > > > > > > > > > From the Middlesex Gazette, Vol. XL, Iss. 2044 , pg. 2, > > > 1825-01-26: "DOMESTIC. / On Wednesday last, the trial of Adonijah > > > Baily > > > [sic] for the murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, commenced at Brooklyn, in > > > the > > > county of Windham, and terminated on Friday evening. So much interest > > > had > > > been excited, that before the trial commenced, the town was thronged > > > with > > > people from all parts of the County. The Hon. Judge PETERS presided at > > > the > > > trial. When Bailey was brought in to plead, great anxiety was > > > manifested to > > > witness the solemn scene. The prisoner was brought in by the Sheriff > > > and > > > his deputies, and as he approached the bar of justice, at the age of > > > 79, > > > halting with infirmity, every soul present seemed deeply affected, > > > exoept > > > [sic] the prisoner, who though attentive was unmoved. The case was > > > conducted on the part of the State, by Col. JUDSON, State Attorney, > > > assisted by Wm. P. CLEAVELAND, Esq.; and on the part of the prisoner > > > by C. > > > GODDARD, and J. EATON, Esquires. / The testimony disclosed the most > > > cruel > > > and awful murder that has taken place in the State of Connecticut for > > > many > > > years. The substance of the testimony was as follows: -- / Pollock had > > > for > > > some weeks been at work at Baileys, in the town of Sterling, and on > > > the 23d > > > of Oct. last, Pollock was missing: search was made from day to day for > > > the > > > body, until Nov. 3d when it was found buried, one foot deep, eight > > > rods > > > from the place where Bailey and Pollock had been at work. On taking > > > the > > > body from the ground, it appeared that four wounds were made on the > > > back > > > part of the head, cut through the scull [sic] with an axe. Eight > > > witnesses > > > testified that Bailey said he was with Pollock, making shingles until > > > 11 > > > o'clock on the 23d of Oct. when Pollock went away, to go to a > > > neighbouring > > > store, and that he, Bailey, stayed to work till late dinner time, and > > > immediately returned and continued work there all day. Traces of blood > > > were > > > discovered from the shingle place, to the place where the body was > > > found, > > > and a fire had been kindled with a view to burn up the bloody > > > shavings, but > > > many were found partly consumed and others covered up, all this within > > > 30 > > > rods of Bailey's house. Bailey was asked whether there was any fire on > > > the > > > spot on the day Pollock was missing, repeatedly said there was none, > > > could > > > not have been any, as he was in a situation to know, being there all > > > the > > > time. It was then proved beyond all doubt that a fire was seen to be > > > kindled around the shingle place about 2 o'clock P. M. which remained > > > to > > > burn some time. On searching Bailey, a note and order belonging to > > > Pollock > > > were found in his possession. Pollock's trunk was found open, and all > > > its > > > contents taken out, and some papers belonging to Pollock were thrown > > > into > > > the fire, and identified, some of them were taken off by a witness > > > before > > > consumed. When Pollock was last seen he had money with him and Bailey > > > was > > > destitute of any, until after Pollock's death, when he passed money at > > > the > > > store, to a considerable amount. Pollock's pocket-book and watch have > > > never > > > been found. One witness swore that about 10 days before Pollock was > > > murdered, Bailey said 'that he or Pollock should die soon.' After > > > Bailey's > > > arrest and while under the care of the officer he tried to bribe his > > > keepers and get away from them. -- These together with many other > > > circumstances rendered his case entirely hopeless. After a protracted > > > trial > > > of three days, the cause was committed to the Jury, who returned a > > > verdict > > > of GUILTY. / The next day the prisoner was set at the bar to receive > > > sentence, and being asked whether he had any reasons why sentence of > > > death > > > should not be pronounced, the prisoner replied with perfect coolness, > > > that > > > 'he had none, for he was willing to submit to the law.' / Judge Peters > > > then > > > proceeded in a most solemn and impressive manner to conclude the > > > scene. The > > > sentence was pronounced, and the execution is to take place the 2d > > > Wednesday of June next. -- N. L. Advocate." > > > > > > From the Rhode Island American, Vol. XVII, Iss. 35, pg. 2, > > > 1825-01-28: "At a recent term of the Supreme Court of Connecticut in > > > Windham county, Adonijah Bailey, aged eighty years, was convicted of > > > the > > > murder of Jeremiah W. Pollock, and sentenced to be executed on the 8th > > > of > > > June next. It is stated that the testimony disclosed the most cruel > > > and > > > awful murder that has been committed in Connecticut for many years." > > > > > > From the Middlesex Gazette, Vol. XL, Iss. 2062, pg. 3, 1825-06-01: > > > "On > > > the night of the 24th inst. Adonijah Bailey who was sentenced to be > > > executed on the 8th day of June next, for the murder of Jeremiah W. > > > Pollock, evaded the sentence of the Judge by hanging himself, during > > > the > > > silence of the night in the dreary mansion of the Goal [sic], without > > > any > > > one to assist him. He made his rope of bandages which he took from his > > > sore > > > leg, and attached one end of it by a nail to the hinge of the door, > > > and the > > > other part of the rope round his neck, he was found hanging with his > > > knees > > > nearly to the floor, when the Goaler [sic] entered his room in the > > > morning, > > > the body was interred on Thursday. / Since his death we understand the > > > Gaoler has found many papers in the room where he was confined which > > > contain his confession of many black crimes, and among which, is the > > > murder > > > of Jeremiah W. Pollock, he has confessed how and in what manner he > > > committed the bloody deed but not the cause, all of which will soon > > > appear > > > in a pamphlet containing also his trial. -- Brooklyn Obser." > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you can track down that pamphlet, if it was ever actually > > > published. Maybe a local historical society would have a copy. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > At 07:49 AM 3/15/2006, you wrote: > > > >Hi Gang, > > > >Here is another murder nightmare that I have in my genealogy. Maybe > > > one of > > > >you that have all this access to these great books can find > > > something. > > > >I certainly would appreciate it... > > > >Jeremiah Wilson Pollock is my 5th gr grandfather..B 1769 > > > Wakefield...died 23 > > > >Oct 1824 Sterling, CT > > > >Per Arnold...Jeremiah Wilson Pollock was a postal carrier and Whig > > > >Also he was murdered in Sterling, Ct. as was his brother 2 months > > > prior. > > > >Wonder if the murders are related. > > > > > > > >Sincerely, Jean B > > > >

Hi Jane Just let me know how much, and I will send it. Thanks again, Bonnie Weber 1072 6th Line, Oakville, Ontario, Canada, L6H 1W5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane" <jffiske@comcast.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Narragansett Registers > Whoa, please! So many people want those copies and I only have one set, but I am willing to make copies for all next week when I can get to the library, if you will reimburse me. Contact me off list, please, with addresses, if you don't mind it costing a few dollars. > Another thought: Beth, would you like to put the pages on line? > Jane > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

I'd be more than happy to help transcribe it, too, so that it's not all on Beth. Cinda in CO -----Original Message----- From: Jane [mailto:jffiske@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:45 AM To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RIGENWEB] Narragansett Hist. Reg. Yes, I think Arlan's idea is great, and I've already answered off list. What I have is far from a complete set. Beth says she has already put some of the material from NHR on line, and I think she could do more if people are interested. Soooo -- if anyone still wants a hard copy, tell me by Monday. Otherwise I'll send what I have to Arlan. Jane ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/

Yes, I think Arlan's idea is great, and I've already answered off list. What I have is far from a complete set. Beth says she has already put some of the material from NHR on line, and I think she could do more if people are interested. Soooo -- if anyone still wants a hard copy, tell me by Monday. Otherwise I'll send what I have to Arlan. Jane

Thanks Arlan that would be a nice gesture. Nancy-Jo Nunez A Genealogy Enthusiast ...Member of Rhode Island Genealogy Society, Connecticut Genealogy Society, New England Genealogical & Historical Society, Killingly Historical Society, Rhode Island Historical Society, Santa Clara California Genealogical Society, Northern California Genealogical Society. Searching...searching...searching... "History is a great teacher. Read it, understand it, ponder upon the first and last chapters as well as the middle. It makes the present so much more understandable and less perplexing."

In my family there was a woman who went through life known as Grizzle, the name is even on her headstone. I found her birth registration which shows that her parents named her Priscilla. I believe that her younger siblings, being unable to pronounce Priscilla, called her Grizzle and so she went through life known as Grizzle. Marjorie in SC

continued from part 1. "After several months of preparation, filling the hold with empty oil barrels and food supplies, replacing torn sails, signing on a capable crew, -- some being veritable old sea-dogs and others mere stripling lads not yet out of their teens, the bark 'Emigrant' was pronounced 'fit and seaworthy' by her captain, James Sherman, about the first of November, 1844. On the tenth day of the same month practically the entire population of Bristol gathered at the wharf to wave a last goodbye and shout a final 'bon voyage' to the departing crew. Mothers and sweethearts wept, old mariners who knew the hazards of whale hunting, especially in the swirling waters of the Indian Ocean, shook their heads in fear. They would be gone at least two years, perhaps more, -- and as the 'Emigrant' hoisted her sails, swung into a light breeze and disappeared down Narragansett Bay, the loved ones on shore shuddered and offered inward prayers to the Almighty, while even the most daring members of the crew bit their lips in silence, all trying to fight a common thought, -- 'we may never meet again.' Getting under way about eight o'clock in the morning, it took the bark nearly six hours to reach Newport. While sailing across Newport harbor there was a booming thud, the ship creaked at every joint and lurched heavily to one side, -- orders were given to reef the sails at top speed. Everyone on board realized what had happened, they had charged upon a hidden rock. Captain Sherman rushed down the ladder into the forward hold expecting to see the water spurting through a jagged gash in the bow, but, to his surprise, the rugged plank siding had withstood the sudden shock. After being cleared in two hours by a rising tide the 'Emigrant' was once again ready for the open sea." continued in part 3.

in yesterday's ProJo: Scott Molloy: "Behold the Irish Ascendancy 'Beyant the Sea' " on Irish Catholic philanthropist Joseph Banigan, "born the poorest of the poor", who died in 1898, perhaps "the richest man in the state" http://www.projo.com/opinion/contributors/content/projo_20060317_17mollo.1cc420bf.html

Jane, I would like to see the script kept for future use. I think Arlan's method the best. Thank you Arlan for the favor. Let's keep it for all to use. Arlene Haddock --- Jane <jffiske@comcast.net> wrote: > Whoa, please! So many people want those copies and > I only have one set, but I am willing to make copies > for all next week when I can get to the library, if > you will reimburse me. Contact me off list, please, > with addresses, if you don't mind it costing a few > dollars. > Another thought: Beth, would you like to put the > pages on line? > Jane > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Jane, I think that Beth would only be able to put them in emails I can put them in an online archive, with a link to them, where they will always be available to everybody Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List Email: list-adminis@cox.net ********************************************************************* To subscribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe To unsubcribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane" <jffiske@comcast.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Narragansett Registers > Whoa, please! So many people want those copies and I only have one set, > but I am willing to make copies for all next week when I can get to the > library, if you will reimburse me. Contact me off list, please, with > addresses, if you don't mind it costing a few dollars. > Another thought: Beth, would you like to put the pages on line? > Jane > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Nancy, I think Grizzell started with Grizzell Strange who married 1) Thomas Fish of Portsmouth and 2) Samuel Cornell of Dartmouth (bro. of THE Thomas Cornell who supp. murdered his mother). I wrote an article at least 20 years ago that was published in TAG, after someone challenged me to identify the wife of Samuel Cornell. The name Grizzell filtered down in the family. I can send you a copy of that article if you need it. I also did a small article on the English origins of the Strange family - Gloucestershire as I recall, Ashchurch I think, anyway they used the name Grizzell back there. Brothers Lot and John Strange settled in Portsmouth. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "NTMAURO" <NTMAURO@ETCMAIL.COM> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] GRIZZELL > In search Rhode Island and Massachusetts, has anyone come across this as a > given name. I know there was a Sherman that used this as a first name. Any > others? This would have been middle 1700's. > Nancy Tourjee Mauro > Genealogy is the gift that gives for generations. > www.Tourjee.net > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 3/16/2006 > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > The RI Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm > RIGenWeb Archives Search http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/ri/risearch.html > >

My James Wheeler had a wife named Grizzell Squire, born late 1600's; they lived Rehoboth, MA Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "NTMAURO" <NTMAURO@ETCMAIL.COM> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] GRIZZELL > In search Rhode Island and Massachusetts, has anyone come across this as a > given name. I know there was a Sherman that used this as a first name. Any > others? This would have been middle 1700's. > Nancy Tourjee Mauro > Genealogy is the gift that gives for generations. > www.Tourjee.net > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 3/16/2006 > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > The RI Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm > RIGenWeb Archives Search http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/ri/risearch.html > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

In search Rhode Island and Massachusetts, has anyone come across this as a given name. I know there was a Sherman that used this as a first name. Any others? This would have been middle 1700's. Nancy Tourjee Mauro Genealogy is the gift that gives for generations. www.Tourjee.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 3/16/2006