A book I have (The State of Rhode Island Manual 1977-1978) says Caleb was Governor from May 1695-Dec 17, 1695. Unfortunately no picture of him. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Usaf1135@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Caleb Carr > In the book "Rhode Island Governors For Three Hundred Years" there is no > likeness of Gov. Caleb Carr (1623 - 17 Dec 1695), as is true of other R.I. > Governors of the early years, although some like the Wantons and > Coddington are > represented by original images, probably due to their wealth and higher > stations in > the State. This book was written by Ralph S. Mohr in 1959. Governor Carr > was > reinterred in the family lot about 1900 in Jamestown, R.I. > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ > Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ >

Arlene: There are several "Allyn's" listed, but no "Allen's." Also no vessel named Albany Trader.The book lists only the ships BUILT in Mystic between 1784-1919...which I suspect the Albany Trader wasn't as you state 'most were from RI.' Thanks for your inquiry regardless. BILL -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill, would your book have anything about a Thomas Allen from R.I? Some of the ships he captained were from CT. Most were from R.I. His last boat was the "Albany Trader" which ran from Narragansett Bay (Allen's Harbor) to Albany, N.Y. Thank you for your time. Arlene Clarke Haddock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

In the book "Rhode Island Governors For Three Hundred Years" there is no likeness of Gov. Caleb Carr (1623 - 17 Dec 1695), as is true of other R.I. Governors of the early years, although some like the Wantons and Coddington are represented by original images, probably due to their wealth and higher stations in the State. This book was written by Ralph S. Mohr in 1959. Governor Carr was reinterred in the family lot about 1900 in Jamestown, R.I.

Does anyone know of a picture/photo/painting of Gov. Caleb Carr of R.I. and where I could find it?? Janet in PA

Would you please check for an Abiel ALLEN possible son of ?????. He raised most of his family in CT, Hartford County and his wife is Lydia Daniels also from Hartford. Thank you for any help. Abiel is an American Rev pensioner. -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Weber [mailto:bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:27 AM To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RIGENWEB] CT Probate Records Hi all. I recently purchased a 3 Vol. set of Probate Records 1635-1750, for Hartford, CT, by Charles Manwaring. Will do look ups. Bonnie ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Bristol County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/ RI Cemeteries Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/

Bill, would your book have anything about a Thomas Allen from R.I? Some of the ships he captained were from CT. Most were from R.I. His last boat was the "Albany Trader" which ran from Narragansett Bay (Allen's Harbor) to Albany, N.Y. Thank you for your time. Arlene Clarke Haddock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thank you so much. This is not my Elisha Baker, he was CT born, but thank you for taking the time to look. I am also a Denison and Miner descendant, so will try to find a connection there. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Re:Re: Re:[RIGENWEB] Book on Mystic > Bonnie: This may be what you're looking for; to wit: > > NEPTUNE; Sloop; 23tons; 37.6x13.4x5.6. Built 1805 'possibly' in Mystic > by the master carpenter Silas Fish. She is listed as being built in > Groton, but Elisha Baker, Robert Denison & Manasseh Miner, all of > Stonington & Mystic were her owners. Elisha Baker Jr was master > in 1805, followed by Johnathan Niles in 1809 & Benjamin Burrows in > 1811-1815. She was a "Coasting Vessel" until 1811 when she entered the > cod fishery. She was lost at sea in 1815. > Sorry, but no Amos Baker listed. > Your very welcome, > BILL > -END OF MESSAGE- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill, does it say anything about Elisha? > I also have an Amos, but his name is spelled Anes, Anos, etc. They were in Wickford, R.I., or N. K. > > Thanks again, > Bonnie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:50 AM > Subject: Re:[RIGENWEB] Book on Mystic > > > > Hi Bonnie: There are 8 Bakers' listed in the book. I'll give you their > > birth names, & if any of them ring a bell, get back to me & I'll try > > to 'go backwards' as I'll have to match the name with the ship(s) > > they served on. OK? Here's the Bakers: Albert; Elisha; Elisha Jr.; > > John III; Lorenzo Dow; Peter Jr.; Thomas J. & William J. > > BILL < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hi Bill > > Does the book mention any of the coastal transports that were used along the seaboard? I am looking for Baker's also, and they worked on the local trade between New York, Nova Scotia, Maine, Mass., RI. > > > > Thanks, > > Bonnie > > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ > > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > > Providence County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ > > Submit your Rhode Island Query at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Providence County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ > Submit your Rhode Island Query at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html >

Bonnie: This may be what you're looking for; to wit: NEPTUNE; Sloop; 23tons; 37.6x13.4x5.6. Built 1805 'possibly' in Mystic by the master carpenter Silas Fish. She is listed as being built in Groton, but Elisha Baker, Robert Denison & Manasseh Miner, all of Stonington & Mystic were her owners. Elisha Baker Jr was master in 1805, followed by Johnathan Niles in 1809 & Benjamin Burrows in 1811-1815. She was a "Coasting Vessel" until 1811 when she entered the cod fishery. She was lost at sea in 1815. Sorry, but no Amos Baker listed. Your very welcome, BILL -END OF MESSAGE- -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill, does it say anything about Elisha? I also have an Amos, but his name is spelled Anes, Anos, etc. They were in Wickford, R.I., or N. K. Thanks again, Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: Re:[RIGENWEB] Book on Mystic > Hi Bonnie: There are 8 Bakers' listed in the book. I'll give you their > birth names, & if any of them ring a bell, get back to me & I'll try > to 'go backwards' as I'll have to match the name with the ship(s) > they served on. OK? Here's the Bakers: Albert; Elisha; Elisha Jr.; > John III; Lorenzo Dow; Peter Jr.; Thomas J. & William J. > BILL < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Bill > Does the book mention any of the coastal transports that were used along the seaboard? I am looking for Baker's also, and they worked on the local trade between New York, Nova Scotia, Maine, Mass., RI. > > Thanks, > Bonnie > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Providence County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ > Submit your Rhode Island Query at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html

Bill, does it say anything about Elisha? I also have an Amos, but his name is spelled Anes, Anos, etc. They were in Wickford, R.I., or N. K. Thanks again, Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: Re:[RIGENWEB] Book on Mystic > Hi Bonnie: There are 8 Bakers' listed in the book. I'll give you their > birth names, & if any of them ring a bell, get back to me & I'll try > to 'go backwards' as I'll have to match the name with the ship(s) > they served on. OK? Here's the Bakers: Albert; Elisha; Elisha Jr.; > John III; Lorenzo Dow; Peter Jr.; Thomas J. & William J. > BILL < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Bill > Does the book mention any of the coastal transports that were used along the seaboard? I am looking for Baker's also, and they worked on the local trade between New York, Nova Scotia, Maine, Mass., RI. > > Thanks, > Bonnie > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Providence County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ > Submit your Rhode Island Query at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html

Hi Bonnie: There are 8 Bakers' listed in the book. I'll give you their birth names, & if any of them ring a bell, get back to me & I'll try to 'go backwards' as I'll have to match the name with the ship(s) they served on. OK? Here's the Bakers: Albert; Elisha; Elisha Jr.; John III; Lorenzo Dow; Peter Jr.; Thomas J. & William J. BILL < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Bill Does the book mention any of the coastal transports that were used along the seaboard? I am looking for Baker's also, and they worked on the local trade between New York, Nova Scotia, Maine, Mass., RI. Thanks, Bonnie ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/

Hi all. I recently purchased a 3 Vol. set of Probate Records 1635-1750, for Hartford, CT, by Charles Manwaring. Will do look ups. Bonnie

Hi Bill Does the book mention any of the coastal transports that were used along the seaboard? I am looking for Baker's also, and they worked on the local trade between New York, Nova Scotia, Maine, Mass., RI. Thanks, Bonnie

Donna; Sorry, but no mention in the book of a barque "Ocean" being built in Mystic. Also, 8 Bakers' mentioned in the book...But no Hiram. BILL -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Bill, Ant mention of a Hiram Baker. He was a ship captain on the Barque "Ocean. I don't know if he had any part in the building of the vessels. Would you be kind enough to check?- thank you, Donna in RI ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Providence County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ Submit your Rhode Island Query at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html

I checked Ancestry and found one record for Irene Sullivan 1897--not the correct parents. Donna

Pat: You are correct as follows: DAVID CROCKETT: Clipper ship; 1,679 tons; 215.10x40.6x27. Launched in Oct. 1853 by George Greenman & Co. Built at a cost of $94,800 she was the largest vessel built on the Mystic River to that time. She is considered to have been one of the most successful ships launched from an American shipyard. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SILAS GREENMAN: Ship: 733 tons; 146.10x33.3x26. Built in 1848 by George Greenman & Co. for Everett & Brown of New York. She was named after the recently deceased father of the Greenman brothers. She ran primarily in the Liverpool trade. In 1857 she was owned by William T. Frost of New York, & was operating between New Orleans & New York. She was condemned at San Francisco in 1866 after arriving in distress while on a voyage from Puget Sound to Hong Kong. She was sold for $5,500 & purchased & rebuilt for Siamese owners. In 1868 she was reported as "leaky' at Callao. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hope you find this as interesting as I did. BILL xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi Bill I am a descendant of the "Greenman" Family of Mystic (and formerly of RI). I am interested in who built the Ship called "The David Crockett" and who built the Ship called "Silas Greenman". I was under the impression that they were built by Greenman Bros.. Any information contained in the book regarding them would be appreciated. Thank You Pat R ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Visit and/or join our Rhode Island off topic Mail list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhode_Island/?yguid=86367525 Subscribe: Rhode_Island-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Sandy have you tried Ancestry? Nancy-Jo Nunez A Genealogy Enthusiast ...Member of Rhode Island Genealogy Society, Connecticut Genealogy Society, New England Genealogical & Historical Society, Killingly Historical Society, Rhode Island Historical Society, Santa Clara California Genealogical Society, Northern California Genealogical Society. Searching...searching...searching... "History is a great teacher. Read it, understand it, ponder upon the first and last chapters as well as the middle. It makes the present so much more understandable and less perplexing."

Hi Bill, Ant mention of a Hiram Baker. He was a ship captain on the Barque "Ocean. I don't know if he had any part in the building of the vessels. Would you be kind enough to check?- thank you, Donna in RI

Donna: There's a whole chapter on "Shipwrights" as carpenters were then called, but the only ones mentioned by name are those who were considered as being "Masters"....those skilled in a certain aspect of shipbuilding. There are several pictures of the entire crew who built a certain vessel, consisting of perhaps 50-60 shipwrights. But I'm sure you couldn't pick your 3rd gr-grandfather out of any of them. Interesting to read, however, was that the average wage for a shipwright was $1.25-$1.50 per day, depending on their skill level. Times sure have changed in that respect! BILL -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill, My 3rd gr-grandfather, John Craven(also have seen Crevan and Craton on Census images), was a skilled ship's carpenter in Mystic from about 1845-1860. Would you let me know if there is any mention of him? Donna in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re:[RIGENWEB] The Voyage of the Bark "Emigrant" (part 5 of 5 > Great story, Beth...Thanks for publishing it. Living in Mystic, I know > there are many, many similar stories, both told & untold. I have the > book "Mystic Built" by Wm. Peterson, & published by Mystic Seaport > which has the listing, & some tales, of the over 1400 ships built at > Mystic, including many of the great 'whalers, between the years > 1784-1919. I will gladly do lookups from it should anyone have the need. > Bill Waterhouse > Mystic, CT > < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > > -END- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > continued from part 4. > > "There was now no doubt but what the 'Emigrant' had finally located fertile whaling grounds. Hardly a day passed without at least one whale being sighted, and sometimes as many as half a dozen. They were all sperm whales, however, and were much more difficult to capture than the common variety known as 'right' whales. In the second week of September, the 'Emigrant' log relates the unusual capture of five handsome specimens. Such good fortune was short-lived, for the next successful encounter was not recorded until some three months later, on December 5, 1845. >

Hi Bill I am a descendant of the "Greenman" Family of Mystic (and formerly of RI). I am interested in who built the Ship called "The David Crockett" and who built the Ship called "Silas Greenman". I was under the impression that they were built by Greenman Bros.. Any information contained in the book regarding them would be appreciated. Thank You Pat R

Bill, My 3rd gr-grandfather, John Craven(also have seen Crevan and Craton on Census images), was a skilled ship's carpenter in Mystic from about 1845-1860. Would you let me know if there is any mention of him? Donna in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Waterhouse" <wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re:[RIGENWEB] The Voyage of the Bark "Emigrant" (part 5 of 5 > Great story, Beth...Thanks for publishing it. Living in Mystic, I know > there are many, many similar stories, both told & untold. I have the > book "Mystic Built" by Wm. Peterson, & published by Mystic Seaport > which has the listing, & some tales, of the over 1400 ships built at > Mystic, including many of the great 'whalers, between the years > 1784-1919. I will gladly do lookups from it should anyone have the need. > Bill Waterhouse > Mystic, CT > < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > > -END- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > continued from part 4. > > "There was now no doubt but what the 'Emigrant' had finally located fertile whaling grounds. Hardly a day passed without at least one whale being sighted, and sometimes as many as half a dozen. They were all sperm whales, however, and were much more difficult to capture than the common variety known as 'right' whales. In the second week of September, the 'Emigrant' log relates the unusual capture of five handsome specimens. Such good fortune was short-lived, for the next successful encounter was not recorded until some three months later, on December 5, 1845. > > For nearly a year the 'Emigrant' continued its wearisome cruise throughout the vast expanse of the Eastern Indian Ocean, trying in vain to capture more of the valuable 'kings of the sea', but only the winds of ill-fortune filled her cumbersome sails and, bitterly disappointed, Captain Sherman ordered the ship homeward-bound in the early fall of the year 1846. Circling the Cape of Good Hope, ever on the watch for stray whales to fill out their lean cargo, the men became more and more cheerful as each day brought them nearer to home and the loved ones they had left behind. After sailing off the coast of West Africa for several months the 'Emigrant' headed for the shores of North America, and, early in the morning of January 29, 1847, the joyous shout came from the crow's nest, 'Thar's old Block Island, boys, arisin' to the larboard'. Two days later the little bark sailed into Bristol harbor, and a welcoming cheer of both joy and thankfulness > arose from the crowded wharves as one of the seamen yelled the good news at the top of his voice, 'All safe, none lost.' > > Thus ended the last successful voyage of the whaling bark 'Emigrant', for the next year she again set out for the Indian Ocean, this time from the busy port of New Bedford. She was found tossing about in a hungry sea, bottom up, with all hands, in the words of Irving, 'gone down amidst the roar of the tempest; their bones lie whitening among the caverns of the deep. Silence, oblivion, like the waves, have closed over them and no one can tell the story of their end.' " > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html > RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm