Thank you Arlan....... What would our list be without YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carole Cargill ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlan Maguire<mailto:List-adminis@cox.net> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil Brock Way is no longer with us When persons continue to disregard the rules of this mail list after they have been warned they will be removed from this list Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List Email: list-adminis@cox.net<mailto:list-adminis@cox.net> ********************************************************************* To subscribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe<mailto:RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe> To unsubcribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe<mailto:RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe> ********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "CAROLE CARGILL" <cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com>> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > Well to start.. Phil has helped me with my computer problems and at his > directions ... fixed my download problems and that's only me. Gloria, all > the time gives us all endless and free information for our research. She > always responds to us both on and off Rigenweb ... As far as errors go I > was only speaking in general for us others... not Phil with his Bio's and > Gloria with her information books. > This has been a wonderful and helpful group of people sharing our > information with all others and hopefully this should continue unless > people criticize those who are only trying to help us! > > Carole Cargill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brock Way<mailto:brockway_32m@yahoo.com<mailto:brockway_32m@yahoo.com>> > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > I am curious...what error are you talking about? You > mention an error, or errors, but you don't specify > any, so one can only guess. Can you specify what, in > your view, is in error? > > I am also wondering what you are talking about when > you say that Phil does so much to help us all. What > did he do that helped? All I can see that he did was: > > 1. Make claims that shaving cream harms tombstones, in > the complete absence of any evidence to support the > claim. > > 2. Make claims that experimentation was done that > shows shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete > absence of any evidence to support the claim, or even > to demonstrate that the experiment was ever even > really performed. > > How is making vacuous claims helpful? > > Brock Way > > --- CAROLE CARGILL <cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com>>> > wrote: > > > Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. > > You do so much to help us all !!! > > We all are entitled by being human with and > > occasional error but this is ridiculous. > > Carole Cargill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net>>> > > To: > > > > RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM > > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > > > > I hope this resolves the issue. > > Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he > > would like to discuss this further with him. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Phil Albro > > > > > > > > > > Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in > > geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did > > research at the National Institute of Environmental > > Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical > > Director and internal consultant for an > > environmental analysis company. The one who has > > been teaching environmental chemistry at the > > graduate school level for the past 19 years. No > > secret, you can determine all that with a Google > > search. I am the one who wrote the article on how > > using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions > > easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in > > climates where the temperature drops below freezing > > in the Wintertime. And so it does. > > > > If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished > > surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed > > off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, > > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. > > It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. > > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > > prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates > > the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes > > exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse > > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > > find anything. That is what I just said above - you > > can not rinse it completely from the cracks with > > water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a > > pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl > > alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The > > alcohol will break the capillary attraction and > > surface tension that are holding the water + > > emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into > > the cotton ball from which they ca! > > n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, > > using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick > > which articles by others I choose to believe on > > these matters. > > > > I too have read the original story about "DHMO", > > although I had nothing to do with it. It was not > > intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended > > to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen > > mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the > > EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it > > bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into > > hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed > > something to worry about. > > > > Phillip Albro > > > palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/>>> > > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > > GEDCOM at a Time > > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/>>> > > > > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > > Kent County RIGenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/>> > > Search the RIGenWeb Pages > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html>> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Thank you Arlan. Barb

I'm writing for help in breaking down this brick wall. All I know of Joseph is the name of one of his children, Cynthia. She was born in Rhode Island, 1775, and died in the Arlington/Shaftsbury area in Vermont, 1860. Cynthia married Revoluntionary War Vet Aaron Hulet and they had several children. Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks Gail

Thank you sir. Onward and upward. Cinda -----Original Message----- From: Arlan Maguire [mailto:List-adminis@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:10 AM To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil Brock Way is no longer with us When persons continue to disregard the rules of this mail list after they have been warned they will be removed from this list

Brock Way is no longer with us When persons continue to disregard the rules of this mail list after they have been warned they will be removed from this list Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List Email: list-adminis@cox.net ********************************************************************* To subscribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe To unsubcribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "CAROLE CARGILL" <cdcargill_1@msn.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > Well to start.. Phil has helped me with my computer problems and at his > directions ... fixed my download problems and that's only me. Gloria, all > the time gives us all endless and free information for our research. She > always responds to us both on and off Rigenweb ... As far as errors go I > was only speaking in general for us others... not Phil with his Bio's and > Gloria with her information books. > This has been a wonderful and helpful group of people sharing our > information with all others and hopefully this should continue unless > people criticize those who are only trying to help us! > > Carole Cargill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brock Way<mailto:brockway_32m@yahoo.com> > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > I am curious...what error are you talking about? You > mention an error, or errors, but you don't specify > any, so one can only guess. Can you specify what, in > your view, is in error? > > I am also wondering what you are talking about when > you say that Phil does so much to help us all. What > did he do that helped? All I can see that he did was: > > 1. Make claims that shaving cream harms tombstones, in > the complete absence of any evidence to support the > claim. > > 2. Make claims that experimentation was done that > shows shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete > absence of any evidence to support the claim, or even > to demonstrate that the experiment was ever even > really performed. > > How is making vacuous claims helpful? > > Brock Way > > --- CAROLE CARGILL <cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com>> > wrote: > > > Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. > > You do so much to help us all !!! > > We all are entitled by being human with and > > occasional error but this is ridiculous. > > Carole Cargill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net>> > > To: > > > > RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM > > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > > > > I hope this resolves the issue. > > Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he > > would like to discuss this further with him. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Phil Albro > > > > > > > > > > Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in > > geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did > > research at the National Institute of Environmental > > Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical > > Director and internal consultant for an > > environmental analysis company. The one who has > > been teaching environmental chemistry at the > > graduate school level for the past 19 years. No > > secret, you can determine all that with a Google > > search. I am the one who wrote the article on how > > using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions > > easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in > > climates where the temperature drops below freezing > > in the Wintertime. And so it does. > > > > If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished > > surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed > > off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, > > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. > > It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. > > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > > prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates > > the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes > > exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse > > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > > find anything. That is what I just said above - you > > can not rinse it completely from the cracks with > > water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a > > pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl > > alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The > > alcohol will break the capillary attraction and > > surface tension that are holding the water + > > emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into > > the cotton ball from which they ca! > > n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, > > using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick > > which articles by others I choose to believe on > > these matters. > > > > I too have read the original story about "DHMO", > > although I had nothing to do with it. It was not > > intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended > > to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen > > mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the > > EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it > > bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into > > hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed > > something to worry about. > > > > Phillip Albro > > > palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com>> > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/>> > > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > > GEDCOM at a Time > > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/>> > > > > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > > Kent County RIGenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/> > > Search the RIGenWeb Pages > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Well to start.. Phil has helped me with my computer problems and at his directions ... fixed my download problems and that's only me. Gloria, all the time gives us all endless and free information for our research. She always responds to us both on and off Rigenweb ... As far as errors go I was only speaking in general for us others... not Phil with his Bio's and Gloria with her information books. This has been a wonderful and helpful group of people sharing our information with all others and hopefully this should continue unless people criticize those who are only trying to help us! Carole Cargill ----- Original Message ----- From: Brock Way<mailto:brockway_32m@yahoo.com> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil I am curious...what error are you talking about? You mention an error, or errors, but you don't specify any, so one can only guess. Can you specify what, in your view, is in error? I am also wondering what you are talking about when you say that Phil does so much to help us all. What did he do that helped? All I can see that he did was: 1. Make claims that shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim. 2. Make claims that experimentation was done that shows shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim, or even to demonstrate that the experiment was ever even really performed. How is making vacuous claims helpful? Brock Way --- CAROLE CARGILL <cdcargill_1@msn.com<mailto:cdcargill_1@msn.com>> wrote: > Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. > You do so much to help us all !!! > We all are entitled by being human with and > occasional error but this is ridiculous. > Carole Cargill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net>> > To: > RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > I hope this resolves the issue. > Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he > would like to discuss this further with him. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phil Albro > > > > > Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in > geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did > research at the National Institute of Environmental > Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical > Director and internal consultant for an > environmental analysis company. The one who has > been teaching environmental chemistry at the > graduate school level for the past 19 years. No > secret, you can determine all that with a Google > search. I am the one who wrote the article on how > using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions > easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in > climates where the temperature drops below freezing > in the Wintertime. And so it does. > > If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished > surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed > off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. > It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates > the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes > exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > find anything. That is what I just said above - you > can not rinse it completely from the cracks with > water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a > pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl > alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The > alcohol will break the capillary attraction and > surface tension that are holding the water + > emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into > the cotton ball from which they ca! > n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, > using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick > which articles by others I choose to believe on > these matters. > > I too have read the original story about "DHMO", > although I had nothing to do with it. It was not > intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended > to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen > mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the > EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it > bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into > hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed > something to worry about. > > Phillip Albro > palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com>> > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/>> > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/>> > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Kent County RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/> > Search the RIGenWeb Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html> > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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If you can find the obits of he and his wife, you might get lucky and find they will mention brothers & sisters. In the 1880 Census for Woonsocket, there is one other Bourget there - Theresa, age 56, a boarder in the home of Henry Berard and his wife Adeline. She could possibly be James'/Ignace mother, so you might want to look for an obit for her too. I couldn't find her in the RI cem database, but I did find this entry - BOURGET ____? 1820c - 15 JUL 1894 WO006 WO006 - Prescious Blood [Precieux Sang] Cemetery Rathbun St, Woonsocket, RI. There are quite a few other Bourget listed in that database, so you may want to check it out. http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/search.html The records of the Precious Blood parish have been published by the American French Genealogy Society. You may want to join the Quebec Research or Quebec list at rootsweb.com to see if anyone has those books and can look for Ignace for you - either in those books The Harris Public library in Woonsocket has the french newspaper La Tribune as well as the english papers. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <Grizzlyfalls@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] help on a line > > > Thank you so much for the information and yes it confirms what I have. That > always helps. What I am looking for is his brothers and sisters names. > Do you know where to look for this information? > Thanks again > Susan Bourget >

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Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. You do so much to help us all !!! We all are entitled by being human with and occasional error but this is ridiculous. Carole Cargill ----- Original Message ----- From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil I hope this resolves the issue. Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he would like to discuss this further with him. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Albro Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did research at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical Director and internal consultant for an environmental analysis company. The one who has been teaching environmental chemistry at the graduate school level for the past 19 years. No secret, you can determine all that with a Google search. I am the one who wrote the article on how using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in climates where the temperature drops below freezing in the Wintertime. And so it does. If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't find anything. That is what I just said above - you can not rinse it completely from the cracks with water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The alcohol will break the capillary attraction and surface tension that are holding the water + emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into the cotton ball from which they ca! n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick which articles by others I choose to believe on these matters. I too have read the original story about "DHMO", although I had nothing to do with it. It was not intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed something to worry about. Phillip Albro palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/> WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/>

I hope this resolves the issue. Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he would like to discuss this further with him. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Albro Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did research at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical Director and internal consultant for an environmental analysis company. The one who has been teaching environmental chemistry at the graduate school level for the past 19 years. No secret, you can determine all that with a Google search. I am the one who wrote the article on how using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in climates where the temperature drops below freezing in the Wintertime. And so it does. If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't find anything. That is what I just said above - you can not rinse it completely from the cracks with water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The alcohol will break the capillary attraction and surface tension that are holding the water + emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into the cotton ball from which they ca! n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick which articles by others I choose to believe on these matters. I too have read the original story about "DHMO", although I had nothing to do with it. It was not intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed something to worry about. Phillip Albro palbro@mindspring.com

Hello Sue , A good place would be the Woonsocket Library request a Obit-death notice look up in the local papers . http://www.woonsocketlibrary.org/woonsocket_local_history.htm From the 1880 Census , It looks as Ignace goes by James . Happy Hunting Bill Keough xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace James BOURGET Self M Male W 30 CAN Carpenter CAN CAN Aglae BOURGET Wife M Female W 29 CAN Keeping House CAN CAN George BOURGET Son S Male W 9 RI At School CAN CAN Clara BOURGET Dau S Female W 1 RI CAN CAN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Woonsocket, Providence, Rhode Island Family History Library Film 1255216 NA Film Number T9-1216 Page Number 395D

I am curious...what error are you talking about? You mention an error, or errors, but you don't specify any, so one can only guess. Can you specify what, in your view, is in error? I am also wondering what you are talking about when you say that Phil does so much to help us all. What did he do that helped? All I can see that he did was: 1. Make claims that shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim. 2. Make claims that experimentation was done that shows shaving cream harms tombstones, in the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim, or even to demonstrate that the experiment was ever even really performed. How is making vacuous claims helpful? Brock Way --- CAROLE CARGILL <cdcargill_1@msn.com> wrote: > Way to go Gloria and Phil............. Tell'em .. > You do so much to help us all !!! > We all are entitled by being human with and > occasional error but this is ridiculous. > Carole Cargill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gloria<mailto:gjs11054@cox.net> > To: > RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:50 AM > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Explanation from Dr. Phil > > > I hope this resolves the issue. > Mr. Brock Way should email Phil privately if he > would like to discuss this further with him. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phil Albro > > > > > Greetings. I am the biochemist who minored in > geology and organic chemistry, who for 26 years did > research at the National Institute of Environmental > Health Sciences, followed by 10 years as Technical > Director and internal consultant for an > environmental analysis company. The one who has > been teaching environmental chemistry at the > graduate school level for the past 19 years. No > secret, you can determine all that with a Google > search. I am the one who wrote the article on how > using shaving cream to make tombstone inscriptions > easy to read causes them to weather more rapidly in > climates where the temperature drops below freezing > in the Wintertime. And so it does. > > If you smear shaving cream on the highly polished > surface of a granite stone marker, it can be rinsed > off completely. If you smear it in the roughened, > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. > It will soak into the myriad of surface cracks. > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > prevent its freezing and thawing. This accelerates > the natural edge-crumbling that eventually makes > exposed gravestone markers illegible. If you rinse > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > find anything. That is what I just said above - you > can not rinse it completely from the cracks with > water. To get a sample for analysis, wet a > pre-cleaned cotton ball with high-purity methyl > alcohol and press it in the inscription region. The > alcohol will break the capillary attraction and > surface tension that are holding the water + > emollients in the cracks, and they will seep into > the cotton ball from which they ca! > n be extracted for analysis. Yes, I have done this, > using discarded stone work. I don't need to pick > which articles by others I choose to believe on > these matters. > > I too have read the original story about "DHMO", > although I had nothing to do with it. It was not > intended by its author to be a hoax, it was intended > to be a joke! DHMO stands for "dihydrogen > mono-oxide", which is water. It was a parody of the > EPAs tendency to use acronyms for the chemicals it > bans or restricts. The tendency to turn joke into > hoax, the next level being "conspiracy", is indeed > something to worry about. > > Phillip Albro > palbro@mindspring.com<mailto:palbro@mindspring.com> > > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: > http://www.rootsweb.com/<http://www.rootsweb.com/> > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One > GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/> > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Kent County RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/ > Search the RIGenWeb Pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=50009 8583770&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99 IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Search Results | Download | Pedigree ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- IGNACE BOURGET Male Family ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriages: Spouse: AGLAE GAUMONT Family Marriage: 24 FEB 1868 Woonsocket Twp, Providence, Rhode Island ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Thank you so much for the information and yes it confirms what I have. That always helps. What I am looking for is his brothers and sisters names. Do you know where to look for this information? Thanks again Susan Bourget

http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/cemetery043.html WO006 PRECIOUS BLOOD CEMETERY WOONSOCKET RATHBUN ST. COR. OF DIAMOND HILL RD. BOURGET AGLAE (GAUMON) 1850c - 26 JAN 1904 WO006 BOURGET IGNACE 1851c - 15 DEC 1910 WO006 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hope this helps you can order deah records with the following form . Bill Keough xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Kenneth S. Carlson Reference Archivist Rhode Island State Archives 337 Westminster Street Providence, RI 02903 Phone (401) 222 - 2353 Fax (401) 222 - 3199 TTY: 711 Email: reference@sec.state.ri.us Website: www.sec.state.ri.us/archives VITAL RECORDS ORDER GUIDELINES 1. All requests must be made on a Vital Records Order Form. 2. Only one type of record (e.g., birth, marriage, or death) for one name may be requested on a Form. 3. No more than two Vital Records Order Forms may be submitted at one time. Please wait for our response before sending further requests. 4. All requests for vital records must include an approximate date for the birth, marriage, or death sought. If you are unsure of the date, we ask that you include a five year period for the search (e.g., 1870-1875) as well as any information that will assist, such as parents' names, town/city of residence, etc. 5. Requests for vital records before 1853 must include the name of the city or town since no statewide index exists to facilitate a search of the early town records. 6. Photocopies of records will be provided at a cost of $.15 per page. Certified copies of state records (births, marriages, deaths recorded from 1853) can be provided at a cost of $2.00 per record. Requests for certification of pre-1853 vital records must be directed to the city or town that holds the original record. ****PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY**** **** YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED OF ANY CHARGES*** Note: Rhode Island General Laws stipulate that all records of birth and marriage are closed for a period of one-hundred (100) years. Death records are restricted for a period of fifty (50) years. Records of birth, marriage, and death available at the State Archives are as follows: Town Vitals: Prior to 1853 - microfilm copies only. Original records are maintained by the individual cities and towns. Births and Marriages: 1853-1903 (statewide index available) Deaths: 1853-1953 (statewide index available) Requests for copies of statewide filings of births and marriages after 1903 and deaths after 1953 must be requested from the Department of Health, Office of Vital Records, For more information call 401-222-2812. ****THIS FORM MAY BE COPIED**** VITAL RECORDS ORDER FORM Type of Record: _____ Birth _____ Marriage _____ Death (Select only one) _____ photocopy (.15/pg.) _______ certified copy ($2.00) Name of Individual Sought: First:__________________ Middle: ______________ Last:_______________ Date of Birth/Marriage/Death: _______________________________________ Place of event: _____________________________________________________ Parents' Names: _________________________________________________ Spouse: ________________________________________________________ Your Name: ___________________________ Address: ______________________________ _____________________________

I hope this post resolves the issue. If Phil would like to discuss this further, he can subscribe to this list and post here. > If you smear it in the roughened, > carved out inscription of a granite (or other) stone > marker, it will not rinse off completely with water. Interesting claim. Too bad there is no evidence to support the claim. > The emollients will retard its evaporation, but not > prevent its freezing and thawing. Another really fascinating claim. Too bad there is no evidence to support this claim, either. > If you rinse > with water to get a sample for analysis, you won't > find anything. That's not what was done. What was done was practice engraving stones (of the same materials as is used in regular tombstones) were shaving creamed, then a sample of THE STONE ITSELF was taken and homogenized (crushed, etc.). This homogenized sample was then subject to a battery of analytical tests (NMR, HPLC, etc.), as I described prior, and compared to both a part of the stone that was similar, but not shaving creamed (i.e., the "back" of the stone), and also to positive controls (i.e., known constituents of shaving cream and various derivatives, like oxidation products, etc.). The result is that the stone that was shaving creamed was indistinguishable from the backside of the stone, and showed no overlapping peaks with the positive control peaks alone. That is to say, there is NO RESIDUE. The idea that shaving cream causes harm to tombstones is a really compelling idea. Too bad that when it is actually tested...it fails miserably. And the reason it fails testing is because the whole thing is a hoax, just like "ban DHMO". By the way, the "Ban DHMO" is technically neither a joke, nor a hoax, since the intent is not to deceive. The intent of the site is to demonstrate the danger of believing what people write without doing any investigation into the true nature of the claims made. Let me say that again....danger of believing what people write without doing any investigation into the true nature of the claims made. This is exactly the same case as shaving cream. People claim it is harmful, but nobody has ever produced even the slightest shred of evidence to support the claim. There is only claim of damage, and claim of experimentation that shows harm. There is the CLAIM only, and nothing else. Brock Way __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

I hope this email finds the right people. I am looking for some one with information on a man called Ignace Bourget and Aglae Gaumont. Both born in Quebec Canada in 1851 & 1850 doed in RI Susan Bourget

***BRAVO*** THANK YOU ARLAN! -------------------------------------------------------------- This topic has gotten out of hand, has turned argumentive and flamitory, I want it to end immediately If any of you have problems with this you will find yourselves off of this list Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List Email: list-adminis@cox.net ********************************************************************* To subscribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe To unsubcribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brock Way" <brockway_32m@yahoo.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] using shaving cream on tombstones > --- Gloria <gjs11054@cox.net> wrote: > >> Mr. Brock Way... >> First let me say that what you think I wrote was >> actually written by >> Phil Albro who has a great deal more experience than >> I do. > > I am not sure what makes you think you can read my > mind. I never suggested you were the original author > of the text (only the post), and since your post > didn't say explicitly who the chemist with the geology > minor was, it was indeterminate. > >> And secondly >> this information came directly from The Association >> for Gravestone Studies. >> So that's all a bunch of hooey, this is all a hoax, >> and these people don't >> know what they're talking about?! > > That is correct. Just as is the case with DHMO, there > are lots of people (some of whom even represent > themselves as scientists) who actually want to ban it. > > It's important to realize that "these people" have no > training in chemical weathering. They are simply > weekend cemetery trash picker-uppers who think that > act makes them experts on anything even associated > with cemeteries. It is a little bit like asking the > hotdog vendor about the architectural strength of beam > elements at the astrodome. 'Hey...after all, I asked a > guy who worked as a professional in the astrodome for > 12 years...." > > Brock Way > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > The RI Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm > RIGenWeb Archives Search http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/ri/risearch.html > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

Hello Everyone I knew that I bookmarked a good article on this Topic quite some time ago, so I went through my favorites and here we ae. Eastman has some excellent Topic's that he covers and it is important the word gets out that we have an expert. See Below: http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/05/tombstones_and_.html Regards Pat R

This topic has gotten out of hand, has turned argumentive and flamitory, I want it to end immediately If any of you have problems with this you will find yourselves off of this list Arlan Maguire... ********************************************************************* Administrator: RIGENWEB Mail List Email: list-adminis@cox.net ********************************************************************* To subscribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe To unsubcribe: RIGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ********************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brock Way" <brockway_32m@yahoo.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] using shaving cream on tombstones > --- Gloria <gjs11054@cox.net> wrote: > >> Mr. Brock Way... >> First let me say that what you think I wrote was >> actually written by >> Phil Albro who has a great deal more experience than >> I do. > > I am not sure what makes you think you can read my > mind. I never suggested you were the original author > of the text (only the post), and since your post > didn't say explicitly who the chemist with the geology > minor was, it was indeterminate. > >> And secondly >> this information came directly from The Association >> for Gravestone Studies. >> So that's all a bunch of hooey, this is all a hoax, >> and these people don't >> know what they're talking about?! > > That is correct. Just as is the case with DHMO, there > are lots of people (some of whom even represent > themselves as scientists) who actually want to ban it. > > It's important to realize that "these people" have no > training in chemical weathering. They are simply > weekend cemetery trash picker-uppers who think that > act makes them experts on anything even associated > with cemeteries. It is a little bit like asking the > hotdog vendor about the architectural strength of beam > elements at the astrodome. 'Hey...after all, I asked a > guy who worked as a professional in the astrodome for > 12 years...." > > Brock Way > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > The RI Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm > RIGenWeb Archives Search http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/ri/risearch.html > >