Hi Al, Just saw your response about the migration pattern Rhode Island to N.C. you mentioned that you live in N.C., I am hoping if it is not too much trouble , if you could answer a question for me? I found on a web site some information on my Cartwright ancestors the following : >>>> Daniel Cartwright1 (M) #9937 Daniel Cartwright married Mary Weaver, daughter of Peter Weaver, circa 1770; "M. about 1770." Children of Daniel Cartwright and Mary Weaver: Peter Cartwright Jonathan Cartwright Daniel Cartwright Benjamin Cartwright John Cartwright ( - 1838) Anna Cartwright Phebe Cartwright "Came from Roanoke Co. N.C. to Swansey, Mass." "These two families never lived on Nantucket." [Marginal note.]. <<<<<<< Here is my question, was there ever a Roanoke Co. N.C. that you know of? I have not been able to find anything about it online, only Roanoke Island. According to the web site information both my ancestor Daniel and his brother Benjamin are said to have drowned at N.C. around 1805-1807. All the information I found there matched what I had found and pieced together on my own, This Roanoke information was new to me . Below is what was said about the information at that site. If you could be of any help to me I would sure appreciate it. Thanks . Hoping to hear from you. Marge The Eliza Starbuck Barney Genealogical Record, the most reliable genealogy for Nantucket families for the seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, contains vital information on more than 40,000 Nantucketers. This nineteenth -century manuscript comprising more than one thousand pages. **For God so loved the world that He sent His only son that all who believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16**

Debbie, If your son tests for DNA he will show HIS father's DNA not your father's. Your father's DNA will show up if you have brothers who are your father's son. Make a list, your father is first, then his father and mother next to him, then grandfather and grandmother next to each other. All the men are on one side of this list. The women are on the other side of the list. Your father will carry the DNA of his father AND his mother. His sister will only carry his mother's DNA. Next list do the same thing starting with his mother, then her father and mother. A women only carries the DNA of her mother, grandmother, great-grandmother etc. a straight line up thru the list on your mothers side. These 2 lists are separate from each other therefore your son will carry your maternal DNA up thru your mother, grandmother etc. He will carry his fathers DNA thru father, grandfather, great-grandfather. He will not carry YOUR father's DNA because you don't carry it. You only carry your mother's. I have had my father tested for both X and Y DNA. So that means we have his father and his mother's DNA. My maternal grandmother was tested which gives up her DNA and her mothers with a straight line up thru the maternal side of the chart. We also had our only male cousin on the Moore side of the family tested and entered into the worldwide Moore DNA project. We haven't matched anyone. Then a distant cousin told me my great-grandfather was a foundling and only got the name Moore because that was the name of the family that found him on the street corner and took him in. Stefanie

I don't understand the first part of your question. Your son's DNA goes back to his father, his grandfather, his g.grandfather, etc., as long as it is the same surname (direct line.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "msdfields@earthlink.net" <MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > What if you're having blood drawn for genetic testing anyway... would > that > give better results? > > And would my son give the same info as my father or not? > > Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "elainedecker" <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> > To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > > >> Remember it is only men that can be tested and it has to be a direct line >> through the men back to whomever you are looking for. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Wright" <wmewrght@hal-pc.org> >> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 PM >> Subject: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields >> >> >>> >Debbie wrote: >>> >>> Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have >>> experience with this? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Debbie >>> >>> I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their >>> family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. >>> >>> Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved >>> conflicting claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights >>> who lived near each other. >>> >>> Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family >>> claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many >>> others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. >>> >>> Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly >>> Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General >>> Nathanael Greene was. The results can be viewed at >>> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> >>> >>> A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that >>> closely matches Kelly Greene. >>> >>> My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested >>> #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our >>> Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that >>> will give us a clue as to our ancestral line. >>> >>> We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To >>> verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the >>> question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who >>> immigrated to RI in the 1600s. >>> >>> Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested >>> under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of >>> the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the >>> proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. >>> <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> >>> >>> The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few >>> participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. >>> >>> To find your surname project go to >>> <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname >>> in the search box at the upper right of the screen. >>> >>> Bill Wright >>> >>> >>> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== >>> Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >>> Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== >> Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html >> RIGenWeb Surname And Query List >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm >> >> > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Bristol County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/ > RI Cemeteries Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/ > >

What if you're having blood drawn for genetic testing anyway... would that give better results? And would my son give the same info as my father or not? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "elainedecker" <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > Remember it is only men that can be tested and it has to be a direct line > through the men back to whomever you are looking for. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Wright" <wmewrght@hal-pc.org> > To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 PM > Subject: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > > >> >Debbie wrote: >> >> Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have >> experience with this? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Debbie >> >> I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their >> family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. >> >> Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved conflicting >> claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights who lived >> near each other. >> >> Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family >> claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many >> others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. >> >> Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly >> Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General >> Nathanael Greene was. The results can be viewed at >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> >> >> A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that >> closely matches Kelly Greene. >> >> My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested >> #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our >> Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that will >> give us a clue as to our ancestral line. >> >> We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To >> verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the >> question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who >> immigrated to RI in the 1600s. >> >> Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested >> under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of >> the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the >> proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. >> <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> >> >> The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few >> participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. >> >> To find your surname project go to >> <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname in >> the search box at the upper right of the screen. >> >> Bill Wright >> >> >> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== >> Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html >> >> > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html > RIGenWeb Surname And Query List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm > >

Remember it is only men that can be tested and it has to be a direct line through the men back to whomever you are looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wright" <wmewrght@hal-pc.org> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > >Debbie wrote: > > Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have experience > with this? > > Thanks! > > Debbie > > I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their > family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. > > Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved conflicting > claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights who lived near > each other. > > Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family > claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many > others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. > > Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly > Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General Nathanael > Greene was. The results can be viewed at > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> > > A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that > closely matches Kelly Greene. > > My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested > #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our > Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that will > give us a clue as to our ancestral line. > > We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To > verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the > question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who > immigrated to RI in the 1600s. > > Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested > under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of > the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the > proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. > <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> > > The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few > participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. > > To find your surname project go to > <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname in > the search box at the upper right of the screen. > > Bill Wright > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > >

Interesting, I know that the Starbucks were a well known Quaker family that came from Nantucket to North Carolina. Some of the Starbucks married into my family. -----Original Message----- From: Marge Costa [mailto:Sisfeather@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:16 PM To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RIGENWEB] Al Rose Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? Hi Al, Just saw your response about the migration pattern Rhode Island to N.C. you mentioned that you live in N.C., I am hoping if it is not too much trouble , if you could answer a question for me? I found on a web site some information on my Cartwright ancestors the following : >>>> Daniel Cartwright1 (M) #9937 Daniel Cartwright married Mary Weaver, daughter of Peter Weaver, circa 1770; "M. about 1770." Children of Daniel Cartwright and Mary Weaver: Peter Cartwright Jonathan Cartwright Daniel Cartwright Benjamin Cartwright John Cartwright ( - 1838) Anna Cartwright Phebe Cartwright "Came from Roanoke Co. N.C. to Swansey, Mass." "These two families never lived on Nantucket." [Marginal note.]. <<<<<<< Here is my question, was there ever a Roanoke Co. N.C. that you know of? I have not been able to find anything about it online, only Roanoke Island. According to the web site information both my ancestor Daniel and his brother Benjamin are said to have drowned at N.C. around 1805-1807. All the information I found there matched what I had found and pieced together on my own, This Roanoke information was new to me . Below is what was said about the information at that site. If you could be of any help to me I would sure appreciate it. Thanks . Hoping to hear from you. Marge The Eliza Starbuck Barney Genealogical Record, the most reliable genealogy for Nantucket families for the seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, contains vital information on more than 40,000 Nantucketers. This nineteenth -century manuscript comprising more than one thousand pages. **For God so loved the world that He sent His only son that all who believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16** ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm

Thanks, I've registered there under patriarchs, but not sure how to interpret the results to see if a Field/Fields from Rhode Island has been tested yet. See: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/f/fields/results.html Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wright" <wmewrght@hal-pc.org> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > >Debbie wrote: > > Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have experience > with this? > > Thanks! > > Debbie > > I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their > family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. > > Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved conflicting > claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights who lived near > each other. > > Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family > claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many > others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. > > Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly > Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General Nathanael > Greene was. The results can be viewed at > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> > > A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that > closely matches Kelly Greene. > > My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested > #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our > Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that will > give us a clue as to our ancestral line. > > We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To > verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the > question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who > immigrated to RI in the 1600s. > > Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested > under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of > the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the > proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. > <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> > > The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few > participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. > > To find your surname project go to > <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname in > the search box at the upper right of the screen. > > Bill Wright > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > >

If the information is not given on the patriarchs page, sometimes you can find it on www.ysearch.org. People who have their DNA tested are encouraged to post the results on ysearch. www.ybase.org is a similar online database. If you find a close match to your own DNA (note you would have to use a father, brother or cousin for a y-chromonsome DNA test. Your mitochondrial DNA will match that of your mother's.), then you can email the person and compare notes. Bill Wright msdfields@earthlink.net wrote: > Thanks, > > I've registered there under patriarchs, but not sure how to interpret > the results to see if a Field/Fields from Rhode Island has been tested yet. >

Is there any special way to trace Quakers vs other religions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: RE: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields AGAIN... > Have you considered that they could possibly have been Quakers? A lot > of Quakers moved from Rhode Island to North Carolina in that time frame. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: msdfields@earthlink.net [mailto:MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:34 AM > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields > AGAIN... > Importance: High > > Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > How common a migration pattern is this? I've been trying to solve my > brickwall for a LONG time now and have only recently found ONE thing > that > MIGHT be of help! > > Martha (Speight) Field was head of household in Greene County, NC census > in > 1800 with 1 son and 2 daughters under 10 years old. Could John have > been > away fighting in a War or looking for land elsewhere at the time of the > 1800 > census? > > My brick wall is John Field(s) > > John Field(s) Sr. born 3 Dec 1763, Rhode Island died 29 Dec 1853, Henry > County, > TN married circa 1774 in Greene County, NC to Martha Speight born 7 Nov > 1777 > Greene County, NC, died 6 Sep 1867, Henry County, TN > > Census records and family bible records which clearly state Rhode Island > as > his birthplace and his birthdate are pretty well documented .... > > There is no 1810 Census for Greene County, NC (It was either lost or > destroyed, can't remember which) but I assume they are there in 1810 > since > they are there in the 1830 Census for Greene County, NC as are sons > John, > Jr. and Michael Fields. > > Shortly after 1830, they moved with most of their children, and several > Speight and Beaman families to Henry County, TN, where they show up on > the > 1840 and 1850 Census. And Martha shows up there as a widow in the 1860 > census. There is no death record for John in TN. No marriage record in > > NC...nothing that shows his parents names or location in RI!!! > > I have a copy of his will from TN--nothing to help there! > > I can't turn up anything to tell me who his parent might have been in > Rhode > Island!!! > > "Field Genealogy" by Frederick C. Pierce hasn't been any help... > > ANY HELP or suggestions would be appreciated! > > Debbie Fields Murphy > > >> If you think that he served in North Carolina he may not be on the >> Federal Rolls that are at the archives. I would suggest that you > check >> with the North Carolina State Archives as they have all the militia >> rolls. I am a member of the DAR so can do a look up on the DAR site > to >> see if anyone has put in an application on him. I will let you know. >> Dale > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit and/or join our Rhode Island off topic Mail list > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhode_Island/?yguid=86367525 > Subscribe: Rhode_Island-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Newport County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~rinewpor/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailist.html#unsubscribe > >

>Debbie wrote: Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have experience with this? Thanks! Debbie I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved conflicting claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights who lived near each other. Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General Nathanael Greene was. The results can be viewed at <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that closely matches Kelly Greene. My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that will give us a clue as to our ancestral line. We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who immigrated to RI in the 1600s. Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. To find your surname project go to <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname in the search box at the upper right of the screen. Bill Wright

Thanks, we've all ready compared notes... as I have with dozens of other people. Lamar descends from another Fields line. There are two, possibly three brick walls on the Fields name in Greene County, my John Fields, a Jeremiah Fields, possibly a brother of John and another John Fields believed to be the father of Brittle Fields of Greene County, NC. See the article at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paday/dobbers/fields_intro.html Its a big mess! Thanks anyway! Debbie Fields Murphy Greene County, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: <AlRose509@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields AGAIN... > In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, > MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: > Martha (Speight) Field was head of household in Greene County, NC census > in > 1800 with 1 son and 2 daughters under 10 years old. Could John have been > away fighting in a War or looking for land elsewhere at the time of the > 1800 > census? > > My brick wall is John Field(s) > ----------------- > FYI > on the NC GENWEB page for Greene county, there is a researcher listed for > the > FIELDS surname > > LamarFields@worldnet.att.net > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Bristol County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/ > RI Cemeteries Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/ > >

Absolutely. I don't know if you have access to a large library but if you do most of the ones that have a genealogical collection will have the Hinshaw Quaker Genealogy books. There is one that is just on North Carolina and they are wonderful. There is also a Quaker genweb query list like this one that you could join and submit queries to. Good Luck, Dale P.S. If you do have Quakers you have hit pay dirt as they have the best records around. -----Original Message----- From: msdfields@earthlink.net [mailto:MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:28 AM To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields AGAIN... Is there any special way to trace Quakers vs other religions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: RE: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields AGAIN... > Have you considered that they could possibly have been Quakers? A lot > of Quakers moved from Rhode Island to North Carolina in that time frame. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: msdfields@earthlink.net [mailto:MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:34 AM > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields > AGAIN... > Importance: High > > Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > How common a migration pattern is this? I've been trying to solve my > brickwall for a LONG time now and have only recently found ONE thing > that > MIGHT be of help! > > Martha (Speight) Field was head of household in Greene County, NC census > in > 1800 with 1 son and 2 daughters under 10 years old. Could John have > been > away fighting in a War or looking for land elsewhere at the time of the > 1800 > census? > > My brick wall is John Field(s) > > John Field(s) Sr. born 3 Dec 1763, Rhode Island died 29 Dec 1853, Henry > County, > TN married circa 1774 in Greene County, NC to Martha Speight born 7 Nov > 1777 > Greene County, NC, died 6 Sep 1867, Henry County, TN > > Census records and family bible records which clearly state Rhode Island > as > his birthplace and his birthdate are pretty well documented .... > > There is no 1810 Census for Greene County, NC (It was either lost or > destroyed, can't remember which) but I assume they are there in 1810 > since > they are there in the 1830 Census for Greene County, NC as are sons > John, > Jr. and Michael Fields. > > Shortly after 1830, they moved with most of their children, and several > Speight and Beaman families to Henry County, TN, where they show up on > the > 1840 and 1850 Census. And Martha shows up there as a widow in the 1860 > census. There is no death record for John in TN. No marriage record in > > NC...nothing that shows his parents names or location in RI!!! > > I have a copy of his will from TN--nothing to help there! > > I can't turn up anything to tell me who his parent might have been in > Rhode > Island!!! > > "Field Genealogy" by Frederick C. Pierce hasn't been any help... > > ANY HELP or suggestions would be appreciated! > > Debbie Fields Murphy > > >> If you think that he served in North Carolina he may not be on the >> Federal Rolls that are at the archives. I would suggest that you > check >> with the North Carolina State Archives as they have all the militia >> rolls. I am a member of the DAR so can do a look up on the DAR site > to >> see if anyone has put in an application on him. I will let you know. >> Dale > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit and/or join our Rhode Island off topic Mail list > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhode_Island/?yguid=86367525 > Subscribe: Rhode_Island-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Newport County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~rinewpor/ > To unsubscribe: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailist.html#unsubscribe > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm

And I learned from Jane Fiske's wonderful genealogy of the Rhode Island Cook family that there is a whole branch of the family that went south (and stayed in the south) around the time of the Revolution. Loyalists and Loyalist-leaning families didn't just go to Canada. They headed south, too. Judy Anthony Houston, Texas On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Arlene Haddock <mahaddock@yahoo.com> wrote: > There are many R.I. names and families that migrated > south along the seacoast. Many of these families were > mariners and traded along the coast. I cite the > Hazard family for one. I lived in SC for five years > and reveled in the history and families of the state. > The Hazard name was there and I did not realize it was > the R.I. Hazards. I believe they married into a > family with the name Peace as a first or last name. > New Jersey also became the home of some Clarkes, > Palmers, Gardiners/Gardners, Bretts. So don't be > surprised to find other R.I. families in the southern > states. > > Arlene Haddock > > --- AlRose509@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern >> Standard Time, >> MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: >> Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? >> >> How common a migration pattern is this? >> ----------------- >> I was surprised to learn that it was not uncommon at >> all. Born in RI, I now >> live in Cumberland county, NC and see RI names here >> even today. Tillinghast >> stands out but there were several others here prior >> to civil war. So I wouldn't >> be surprised at all. Further, migration from western >> counties of NC to TN was >> quite common. >> >> Al Rose >> >> >> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== >> Providence County RIGenWeb >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ >> Submit your Rhode Island Query at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Bristol County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/ > RI Cemeteries Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/ >

Have you considered that they could possibly have been Quakers? A lot of Quakers moved from Rhode Island to North Carolina in that time frame. -----Original Message----- From: msdfields@earthlink.net [mailto:MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:34 AM To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields AGAIN... Importance: High Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? How common a migration pattern is this? I've been trying to solve my brickwall for a LONG time now and have only recently found ONE thing that MIGHT be of help! Martha (Speight) Field was head of household in Greene County, NC census in 1800 with 1 son and 2 daughters under 10 years old. Could John have been away fighting in a War or looking for land elsewhere at the time of the 1800 census? My brick wall is John Field(s) John Field(s) Sr. born 3 Dec 1763, Rhode Island died 29 Dec 1853, Henry County, TN married circa 1774 in Greene County, NC to Martha Speight born 7 Nov 1777 Greene County, NC, died 6 Sep 1867, Henry County, TN Census records and family bible records which clearly state Rhode Island as his birthplace and his birthdate are pretty well documented .... There is no 1810 Census for Greene County, NC (It was either lost or destroyed, can't remember which) but I assume they are there in 1810 since they are there in the 1830 Census for Greene County, NC as are sons John, Jr. and Michael Fields. Shortly after 1830, they moved with most of their children, and several Speight and Beaman families to Henry County, TN, where they show up on the 1840 and 1850 Census. And Martha shows up there as a widow in the 1860 census. There is no death record for John in TN. No marriage record in NC...nothing that shows his parents names or location in RI!!! I have a copy of his will from TN--nothing to help there! I can't turn up anything to tell me who his parent might have been in Rhode Island!!! "Field Genealogy" by Frederick C. Pierce hasn't been any help... ANY HELP or suggestions would be appreciated! Debbie Fields Murphy > If you think that he served in North Carolina he may not be on the > Federal Rolls that are at the archives. I would suggest that you check > with the North Carolina State Archives as they have all the militia > rolls. I am a member of the DAR so can do a look up on the DAR site to > see if anyone has put in an application on him. I will let you know. > Dale ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Visit and/or join our Rhode Island off topic Mail list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhode_Island/?yguid=86367525 Subscribe: Rhode_Island-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: Martha (Speight) Field was head of household in Greene County, NC census in 1800 with 1 son and 2 daughters under 10 years old. Could John have been away fighting in a War or looking for land elsewhere at the time of the 1800 census? My brick wall is John Field(s) ----------------- FYI on the NC GENWEB page for Greene county, there is a researcher listed for the FIELDS surname LamarFields@worldnet.att.net

In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? How common a migration pattern is this? ----------------- FYI Greene county NC was renamed from Glasgow county in 1799 Glasgow county established 1791 from portion of Dobbs county

In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? How common a migration pattern is this? ----------------- I was surprised to learn that it was not uncommon at all. Born in RI, I now live in Cumberland county, NC and see RI names here even today. Tillinghast stands out but there were several others here prior to civil war. So I wouldn't be surprised at all. Further, migration from western counties of NC to TN was quite common. Al Rose

Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have experience with this? Thanks! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "msdfields@earthlink.net" <MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:34 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? John Field/Fields AGAIN... > Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > How common a migration pattern is this? I've been trying to solve my > brickwall for a LONG time now and have only recently found ONE thing that > MIGHT be of help! > > Martha (Speight) Field was head of household in Greene County, NC census > in 1800 with 1 son and 2 daughters under 10 years old. Could John have > been away fighting in a War or looking for land elsewhere at the time of > the 1800 census? > > My brick wall is John Field(s) > > John Field(s) Sr. born 3 Dec 1763, Rhode Island died 29 Dec 1853, Henry > County, > TN married circa 1774 in Greene County, NC to Martha Speight born 7 Nov > 1777 > Greene County, NC, died 6 Sep 1867, Henry County, TN > > Census records and family bible records which clearly state Rhode Island > as his birthplace and his birthdate are pretty well documented .... > > There is no 1810 Census for Greene County, NC (It was either lost or > destroyed, can't remember which) but I assume they are there in 1810 since > they are there in the 1830 Census for Greene County, NC as are sons John, > Jr. and Michael Fields. > > Shortly after 1830, they moved with most of their children, and several > Speight and Beaman families to Henry County, TN, where they show up on the > 1840 and 1850 Census. And Martha shows up there as a widow in the 1860 > census. There is no death record for John in TN. No marriage record in > NC...nothing that shows his parents names or location in RI!!! > > I have a copy of his will from TN--nothing to help there! > > I can't turn up anything to tell me who his parent might have been in > Rhode Island!!! > > "Field Genealogy" by Frederick C. Pierce hasn't been any help... > > ANY HELP or suggestions would be appreciated! > > Debbie Fields Murphy > > >> If you think that he served in North Carolina he may not be on the >> Federal Rolls that are at the archives. I would suggest that you check >> with the North Carolina State Archives as they have all the militia >> rolls. I am a member of the DAR so can do a look up on the DAR site to >> see if anyone has put in an application on him. I will let you know. >> Dale > > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit and/or join our Rhode Island off topic Mail list > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhode_Island/?yguid=86367525 > Subscribe: Rhode_Island-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > >

There are many R.I. names and families that migrated south along the seacoast. Many of these families were mariners and traded along the coast. I cite the Hazard family for one. I lived in SC for five years and reveled in the history and families of the state. The Hazard name was there and I did not realize it was the R.I. Hazards. I believe they married into a family with the name Peace as a first or last name. New Jersey also became the home of some Clarkes, Palmers, Gardiners/Gardners, Bretts. So don't be surprised to find other R.I. families in the southern states. Arlene Haddock --- AlRose509@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: > Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > How common a migration pattern is this? > ----------------- > I was surprised to learn that it was not uncommon at > all. Born in RI, I now > live in Cumberland county, NC and see RI names here > even today. Tillinghast > stands out but there were several others here prior > to civil war. So I wouldn't > be surprised at all. Further, migration from western > counties of NC to TN was > quite common. > > Al Rose > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Providence County RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ > Submit your Rhode Island Query at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

There are many R.I. names and families that migrated south along the seacoast. Many of these families were mariners and traded along the coast. I cite the Hazard family for one. I lived in SC for five years and reveled in the history and families of the state. The Hazard name was there and I did not realize it was the R.I. Hazards. I believe they married into a family with the name Peace as a first or last name. New Jersey also became the home of some Clarkes, Palmers, Gardiners/Gardners, Bretts. So don't be surprised to find other R.I. families in the southern states. Arlene Haddock --- AlRose509@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net writes: > Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > How common a migration pattern is this? > ----------------- > I was surprised to learn that it was not uncommon at > all. Born in RI, I now > live in Cumberland county, NC and see RI names here > even today. Tillinghast > stands out but there were several others here prior > to civil war. So I wouldn't > be surprised at all. Further, migration from western > counties of NC to TN was > quite common. > > Al Rose > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Providence County RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/ > Submit your Rhode Island Query at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com