According to the information at the RIHS site http://www.rihs.org/mssinv/Mss145.htm they list the Warwick church like this - Warwick (Lippitt & Phenix; Bethel) Also read this article in the RI Genweb pages: The History of Warwick, Rhode Island, its Settlement in 1642 to the Present Time; including accounts of the early settlement and development of its several villages by Oliver Payson Fuller, B. A. Providence: Angell, Burlingame & Co., Printers, 1875 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- HISTORICAL SKETCHES of the CHURCHES IN WARWICK, RHODE ISLAND http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/article98.html I didn't read all the way through to see if it says where the church was physically located. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Scott" <squirejack@suscom.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] 6th Principle Baptist Church @ Warwick > Can anyone tell me where the 6th Principal Baptist Church was located in Warwick in 1827 ?? > > An ancestor of mine was residing in Warwick in 1827 and subscribed to the history of the church and was so mentioned as being a resident. he might not have been a member there but was a member of this faith who happened to be residing in Warwick at that time. > > The pastor who compiled the history was the man who had the book published - Elder Richard Knight of Scituate. > > jack > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > WorldConnect Project -- Connecting the World One GEDCOM at a Time > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Howdy Judy, Thanks for the info. Have we communicated before? You say " Hi Cousin", have we established that? I correspond with so many people I tend to forget. My grandmother was Lydia Allen Cook from Fall River. Thomas "Butcher" Cook and wife Mary ???? were my 8th g grandparents. I see you live in Houston, I live in Alamo, TX that's near McAllen. Does the Clayton Library in Houston Have these Volumes? I know they have the Brayton Genealogy book there. Stephen Francis Brayton Husband of Lydia Allen Cook was my grandfather. Are you related to Elizabeth Anthony b. Oct. 7, 1741 who married May 22, 1760 Francis Brayton b. Feb. 11,1740? My daughter lives in Sugar Land (Greatwood) and I will be there about the first of June for a few days. Looking forward to hearing from you, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Anthony<mailto:judya@hal-pc.org> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? Hi Cousin Ron, Jane is a member of this mailing list, so she might just spot your message! But here's her website where you can buy a copy (2 volumes) for yourself if you want. http://www.genbooks.com/index.htm<http://www.genbooks.com/index.htm> Or, check with your local library because it is in many genealogical collections, or might be available via Interlibrary Loan from another library. Finally, I own both volumes and would be more than happy to do look-ups! Judy Anthony Houston, Texas On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:38:55 -0500 "RONALD BARTLETT" <RonBart12@msn.com<mailto:RonBart12@msn.com>> wrote: > Judy, How do I get in touch with "Jane Fiske" who has the genealogy >of the RI Cook's? My grandmother was part of the RI Cook's from the >Tiverton, Little Compton, Newport area. > > Ron Bartlett > ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judy Anthony<mailto:judya@hal-pc.org<mailto:judya@hal-pc.org>> > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > > And I learned from Jane Fiske's wonderful genealogy of the Rhode > Island Cook family that there is a whole branch of the family that > went south (and stayed in the south) around the time of the > Revolution. > > Loyalists and Loyalist-leaning families didn't just go to Canada. > They headed south, too. > > Judy Anthony > Houston, Texas ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Kent County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rikent/> Search the RIGenWeb Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/search.html>

In his History of Warwick, Oliver Payson Fuller, in the time period you refer to, places the beginning of the Six Principles Baptist Church in the winter of 1841. The church was formally organized as the Crompton Mills Six Principle Church in 1845. This Crompton Mill was the center of its community in those years and some of the mill still stands on Main Street in the Crompton section of West Warwick. Up until 1913 what is now West Warwick was part of Warwick.

The Southern New England Irish Website has a transcription of SOME stones--especially those with Irish connections: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ussnei/sitemap-index.htm PAILTHORPE Mary E., Died April 27, 1870, aged 10 months Alice, Died Sept. 24, 1871, aged 7 mos Children of William & Eliza Pailthorpe St Mary of the Bay Cemetery, Warren The records for St Mary of the Bay, Warren, and St Jean The Baptist Cemetery, Vernon St, Warren are both held at St Mary of the Bay Catholic Church. Many, many, burials here are without headstones and are not in this online transcription. The last time I visited RI, I was able to get the office clerk to search the handwritten ledgers for my gr-grandfather. There was an entry date for his burial, but no record of which plot, and we were not able to find a stone. There are three Catholic Cemeteries side by side- off Vernon St: St Jean Baptiste with predominantly French burials, St. Mary's with predominantly Irish burials, and St Alexander with, I believe, mostly Portuguese burials--although there is certainly some overlap of nationalities in all 3. I'm doing this from memory--if someone knows otherwise, please correct me. Donna in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lwsylvstr@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] new to list - Warren, RI interests plus > Hello! List Members! > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if there are monument inscriptions for > cemeteries in Warren, Bristol County. > > I am looking for my PAILTHORPs who arrived between 1851 and 1869. I am > looking for death/burial dates for: > > Sewell PAILTHORP, who was 54 on the 1870 US census for Warren; born 1816, > Belper, Derbyshire and resided in Stalybridge, Cheshire, England before > immigrating to the US. > > Sewell's wife, Jane (Crossley) PAILTHORP, who was also 54 on the 1870 US > census for Warren; born 1820 in Hempsall, Yorkshire, resided in Stalybridge, > Cheshire, England before immigrating to the US with her husband and children. > > The children of this couple who also immigrated are: > > Eliza (Pailthorp) BRADBURY, b. 1837, husband James > William Henry PAILTHORP, b. 1840 > George PAILTHORP, b. 1842 > Elias PAILTHORP, b. 1845 > Hannibal/Arnold PAILTHORP, b. 1854 > > Some of these families also lived in Pawtucket, Central Falls, and Providence > after 1870. > > Sorry for the long post. > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching this family and also learn > about the Warren area. > > Thank you for your time. > > Sincerely, > Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester > Georgia, USA > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ > Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/

Did you talk to Ken Carlson @ the RI State Archives? The records they have are basically the same as or better than the RIHS. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "K E" <kenofnocal@yahoo.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] anyone planning a visit to the RIHS library? > Greetings. I'm wondering if anyone might be planning a > visit to the Rhode Island Historical Society Library > in Providence. Barring a small miracle, they seem to > be my last hope for discovering the parents of one set > of 5th great-grandparents, and I would be glad to pay > the entrance fee and if necessary for your time if you > might be willing to do a lookup. > > Specifically, I am trying to determine for certain the > parents of one Am(e)y Gard(i)ner, born quite possibly > in the 1806/07 time frame, but definitely between > about 1795 and 1810, and likely in one of the > Kingstowns. I am also trying to determine for certain > the names of her parents's parents (which may turn out > to be the real conundrum here). > > Am(e)y Gard(i)ner married Lyman Clark(e) (b 1798-1810 > to William Clarke and Amy Greene), and lived for a > time in Connecticut (where remains uncertain). The > couple had at least one child in Connecticut (Sarah > Clark[e], born 15 Sept 1828), and their first child > (Mary Clark, b 28 Apr 1827) may have been born there > as well. > > The Clarks moved back to Rhode Island by 1835 > (possibly to one of the Kingstowns), as daughter Lydia > was born there in the 1835-37 time frame. By 1838-39 > they seem to have been living in the > Smithfield/Central Falls/North Providence area when > daughter Susan Clark(e) was born. Lyman and Am(e)y > seem to have had at least three other children > (Elizabeth, Daniel, and Roswell) although I have no > idea at this point when they might have been born. > > There is no 1840 census record for a Lyman Clarke > family in North Providence, but there is a record for > a Lyman Cook family (which may have been a census > taker misunderstanding their name). There is also no > census record for a Lyman Clarke family in Rhode > Island in 1850, but there is one for an Amey Clark > household with daughters Susan and Lydia, and these > may be our Clarks. It suggests but does not confirm > that Lyman Clark(e) had died by 1850. > > Lydia Clark(e) married Albert Frost Briggs of > Attleboro Mass, and settled there. Susan Clark(e) > married Ephraim Hunt Tappan (s/o Abraham Tappan > [Toppan] and Sarah Stockman of Newburyport, Mass) and > settled in Attleboro as well. Ephraim and Albert may > well have been partners in the jewelry business, or at > least done business together. > > There is a *possible* death record for Am(e)y > (Gard[i]ner) Clark(e) from January 1880 in Attleboro > Mass. This Am(e)y (Gard[i[ner) Clark(e) would have > been born in the same year (1806/07) as the Am(e)y > Clark in the 1850 Rhode Island census record, and the > death record for her lists her parents as William > Gard(i)ner and Bets(e)y (Elizabeth?) Potter of the > Kingstowns. > > There is another Amey Gardiner (Amey Easton Gardiner) > born in March, 1807 (d/o Samuel Gardiner and Mary > Carpenter) in North Kingstown who could *possibly* be > our Am(e)y Gard(i)ner, but given the fact that Susan > and Lydia Clark(e) were both living in Attleboro in > 1880 the Am(e)y Clark (d/o William and Bets[e]y > Gard[i]ner) *seems* like a better candidate. > > Here is what I am seeking: > > #1) a birth record for an Am(e)y Gard(i)ner about > 1806/07 in (likely) Washington County RI to William > and Bets(e)y Gard(i)ner. > > #2) a marriage record for an Am(e)y Gard(i)ner and > Lyman Clark(e) from the 1820s in either Washingon or > Providence County RI (they may have been married in > Connecticut but so far I have no proof of that). > > #3) evidence of who Am(e)y Gard(i)ner's grandparents > were. If her parents do turn out to be William > Gard(i)ner and Bets(e)y Potter (of apparently the > Kingstowns), I'm hoping to find out who their parents > were. Am(e)y's parents seem likely to have been born > between 1765 and 1788. > > As I said, I've exhausted other avenues. There are > virtually no vital records for this couple on > ancestry.com, or with town clerks, but my > understanding is that the RIHS Library has resources > unavailable at other sites. > > Thank you for any help you might be able to provide. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Bristol County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/ > RI Cemeteries Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/ > >

Can anyone tell me where the 6th Principal Baptist Church was located in Warwick in 1827 ?? An ancestor of mine was residing in Warwick in 1827 and subscribed to the history of the church and was so mentioned as being a resident. he might not have been a member there but was a member of this faith who happened to be residing in Warwick at that time. The pastor who compiled the history was the man who had the book published - Elder Richard Knight of Scituate. jack

Yes. Mr. Carlson suggested the records at the RIHS were more extensive. --- bob ryan <ryanblack@cox.net> wrote: > Did you talk to Ken Carlson @ the RI State Archives? > The records they have > are basically the same as or better than the RIHS. > Bob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Greetings. I'm wondering if anyone might be planning a visit to the Rhode Island Historical Society Library in Providence. Barring a small miracle, they seem to be my last hope for discovering the parents of one set of 5th great-grandparents, and I would be glad to pay the entrance fee and if necessary for your time if you might be willing to do a lookup. Specifically, I am trying to determine for certain the parents of one Am(e)y Gard(i)ner, born quite possibly in the 1806/07 time frame, but definitely between about 1795 and 1810, and likely in one of the Kingstowns. I am also trying to determine for certain the names of her parents's parents (which may turn out to be the real conundrum here). Am(e)y Gard(i)ner married Lyman Clark(e) (b 1798-1810 to William Clarke and Amy Greene), and lived for a time in Connecticut (where remains uncertain). The couple had at least one child in Connecticut (Sarah Clark[e], born 15 Sept 1828), and their first child (Mary Clark, b 28 Apr 1827) may have been born there as well. The Clarks moved back to Rhode Island by 1835 (possibly to one of the Kingstowns), as daughter Lydia was born there in the 1835-37 time frame. By 1838-39 they seem to have been living in the Smithfield/Central Falls/North Providence area when daughter Susan Clark(e) was born. Lyman and Am(e)y seem to have had at least three other children (Elizabeth, Daniel, and Roswell) although I have no idea at this point when they might have been born. There is no 1840 census record for a Lyman Clarke family in North Providence, but there is a record for a Lyman Cook family (which may have been a census taker misunderstanding their name). There is also no census record for a Lyman Clarke family in Rhode Island in 1850, but there is one for an Amey Clark household with daughters Susan and Lydia, and these may be our Clarks. It suggests but does not confirm that Lyman Clark(e) had died by 1850. Lydia Clark(e) married Albert Frost Briggs of Attleboro Mass, and settled there. Susan Clark(e) married Ephraim Hunt Tappan (s/o Abraham Tappan [Toppan] and Sarah Stockman of Newburyport, Mass) and settled in Attleboro as well. Ephraim and Albert may well have been partners in the jewelry business, or at least done business together. There is a *possible* death record for Am(e)y (Gard[i]ner) Clark(e) from January 1880 in Attleboro Mass. This Am(e)y (Gard[i[ner) Clark(e) would have been born in the same year (1806/07) as the Am(e)y Clark in the 1850 Rhode Island census record, and the death record for her lists her parents as William Gard(i)ner and Bets(e)y (Elizabeth?) Potter of the Kingstowns. There is another Amey Gardiner (Amey Easton Gardiner) born in March, 1807 (d/o Samuel Gardiner and Mary Carpenter) in North Kingstown who could *possibly* be our Am(e)y Gard(i)ner, but given the fact that Susan and Lydia Clark(e) were both living in Attleboro in 1880 the Am(e)y Clark (d/o William and Bets[e]y Gard[i]ner) *seems* like a better candidate. Here is what I am seeking: #1) a birth record for an Am(e)y Gard(i)ner about 1806/07 in (likely) Washington County RI to William and Bets(e)y Gard(i)ner. #2) a marriage record for an Am(e)y Gard(i)ner and Lyman Clark(e) from the 1820s in either Washingon or Providence County RI (they may have been married in Connecticut but so far I have no proof of that). #3) evidence of who Am(e)y Gard(i)ner's grandparents were. If her parents do turn out to be William Gard(i)ner and Bets(e)y Potter (of apparently the Kingstowns), I'm hoping to find out who their parents were. Am(e)y's parents seem likely to have been born between 1765 and 1788. As I said, I've exhausted other avenues. There are virtually no vital records for this couple on ancestry.com, or with town clerks, but my understanding is that the RIHS Library has resources unavailable at other sites. Thank you for any help you might be able to provide. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Elizabeth, I'm so glad you had a wonderful experience visiting Providence, the Historical society and glad that you enjoyed the Rue. That's my favorite place to eat. I agree with you also that it feels like a Mid-western town as I left there for a Mid-western town and it is just as comfortable a feeling. What hotel did you stay at? Just in case I get booted out by my siblings when I visit this summer. :-) Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <nypedirn@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] RI Visit >I just wanted to thank everyone for your suggestions and hints for my >visit. The Library on Hope street is phenomenal! Every single person >working there was helpful above and beyond. Their holdings are as >impressive as their staff. And the Rue was a great choice! > > As to parking, I didn't even have to worry about it (there were plenty of > places available). The hotel clerk suggested I take the trolley. What a > pleasant ride! I picked it up right outside the hotel and had the chance > to actually relax and see the city rather than worry about watching for > street signs! The day turned out beautifully and I enjoyed strolling back > to the hotel. > > Providence has everything a big city could ask for but still has that > small town feeling. I moved to NY from the midwest and I have to say that > I felt like I was back home. My next visit will be better planned and > will certainly be longer. > > Sincerely, > > Elizabeth > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html > RIGenWeb Surname And Query List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm >

I just wanted to thank everyone for your suggestions and hints for my visit. The Library on Hope street is phenomenal! Every single person working there was helpful above and beyond. Their holdings are as impressive as their staff. And the Rue was a great choice! As to parking, I didn't even have to worry about it (there were plenty of places available). The hotel clerk suggested I take the trolley. What a pleasant ride! I picked it up right outside the hotel and had the chance to actually relax and see the city rather than worry about watching for street signs! The day turned out beautifully and I enjoyed strolling back to the hotel. Providence has everything a big city could ask for but still has that small town feeling. I moved to NY from the midwest and I have to say that I felt like I was back home. My next visit will be better planned and will certainly be longer. Sincerely, Elizabeth

Lynn, These are the only Pailthorp's listed in the RI Historical Cemeteries Transcription Project but that doesn't neccessarily mean there aren't more buried somewhere else... RI001 (RI VETERANS CEMETERY, RT.2, EXETER, RI) PAILTHORP MARGARET S - RI001 PAILTHORP WALTER L 1924 - 10 NOV 1984 RI001 Here's the listing for the Warren Historical Cemeteries: WR001 NORTH BURIAL GROUND WARREN NORTH MAIN ST ->15 ft. E of tel pole #12 WR002 HAILE LOT WARREN MARKET ST ->20 ft. E of tel pole #101 WR003 KICKEMUIT CEMETERY WARREN SERPENTINE RD ->15 ft. SE of tel pole #49 WR004 BUTTERWORTH CEMETERY WARREN LONG LANE ->15 ft. W of tel pole #6 WR005 BENJAMIN BARTON LOT WARREN BARTON AVE ->150 ft. S of tel pole #46 WR006 JAMES MASON LOT WARREN MAPLE RD ->100 ft. NW of tel pole #19 WR007 BARTON LOT WARREN BARTON AVE AT LONG LANE ->200 ft. SW WR008 ST ALEXANDER CEMETERY WARREN GREENLAWN ST OFF VERNON ST ->15 ft. of tel pole #20 WR009 ST JOHN'S CEMETERY WARREN VERNON ST ->15 ft. N of tel pole #19 WR010 ST MARY'S CEMETERY WARREN VERNON ST ->20 ft. N of tel pole #13 WR011 SOUTH BURIAL GROUND WARREN SOWAMSET AVE OFF NORTH MAIN ST ->15 ft. of tel pole #5 WR012 COLE CEMETERY WARREN COLONIAL DR ->100 ft. of tel pole #2 WR013 LATER HANDY LOT WARREN ADAM LANE ->15 ft. of tel pole #3 WR014 OBADIAH BOWEN LOT WARREN SCHOOL HOUSE RD ->200 ft. S of tel pole #4 WR015 CAPT EDWARD MASON LOT WARREN MARKET ST - RT 138 ->350 ft. W of tel pole #81 WR016 BROWN LOT WARREN SCHOOL HOUSE RD ->300 ft. of tel pole #55 You can find out who's buried where by doing a search at the following website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/search.html Gloria Rhode Island ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lwsylvstr@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: [RIGENWEB] new to list - Warren, RI interests plus > Hello! List Members! > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if there are monument inscriptions for > cemeteries in Warren, Bristol County. > > I am looking for my PAILTHORPs who arrived between 1851 and 1869. I am > looking for death/burial dates for: > > Sewell PAILTHORP, who was 54 on the 1870 US census for Warren; born 1816, > Belper, Derbyshire and resided in Stalybridge, Cheshire, England before > immigrating to the US. > > Sewell's wife, Jane (Crossley) PAILTHORP, who was also 54 on the 1870 US > census for Warren; born 1820 in Hempsall, Yorkshire, resided in Stalybridge, > Cheshire, England before immigrating to the US with her husband and children. > > The children of this couple who also immigrated are: > > Eliza (Pailthorp) BRADBURY, b. 1837, husband James > William Henry PAILTHORP, b. 1840 > George PAILTHORP, b. 1842 > Elias PAILTHORP, b. 1845 > Hannibal/Arnold PAILTHORP, b. 1854 > > Some of these families also lived in Pawtucket, Central Falls, and Providence > after 1870. > > Sorry for the long post. > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching this family and also learn > about the Warren area. > > Thank you for your time. > > Sincerely, > Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester > Georgia, USA > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Washington County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/ > Scans of Rhode Island Maps are at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/maps/ >

Do you mean using your blood rather than the cheek swab method? As I understand it, you can have DNA tests for a different number of markers done when you sign up with these programs. the higher number of markers will yield more, or more refined results. Your sample would then be compared to people who had the same tests done. The tests are standardized so that the results can be compared - in other words so that you are not comparing apples to oranges. If you are having genetic testing, those test results will be compared to other samples with the same genetic profile to see if there is a connection to a specific medical condition. I don't think this test is looking for the same markers that a genealogy profile is studying. I would think medical testing is looking for specific genes where a problem might be expected depending on the medical issue being studied. I was surprised to learn that there are certain medical conditions that have been traced back to particular individuals. Medical geneticists may also study genealogical connections, but this is entirely different than the DNA studies popular now in genealogy. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "msdfields@earthlink.net" <MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > What if you're having blood drawn for genetic testing anyway... would that > give better results? > > And would my son give the same info as my father or not? > > Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "elainedecker" <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> > To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > > > > Remember it is only men that can be tested and it has to be a direct line > > through the men back to whomever you are looking for. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Wright" <wmewrght@hal-pc.org> > > To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 PM > > Subject: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > > > > > >> >Debbie wrote: > >> > >> Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have > >> experience with this? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Debbie > >> > >> I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their > >> family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. > >> > >> Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved conflicting > >> claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights who lived > >> near each other. > >> > >> Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family > >> claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many > >> others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. > >> > >> Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly > >> Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General > >> Nathanael Greene was. The results can be viewed at > >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> > >> > >> A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that > >> closely matches Kelly Greene. > >> > >> My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested > >> #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our > >> Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that will > >> give us a clue as to our ancestral line. > >> > >> We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To > >> verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the > >> question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who > >> immigrated to RI in the 1600s. > >> > >> Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested > >> under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of > >> the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the > >> proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. > >> <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> > >> > >> The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few > >> participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. > >> > >> To find your surname project go to > >> <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname in > >> the search box at the upper right of the screen. > >> > >> Bill Wright > >> > >>

Hello! List Members! I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if there are monument inscriptions for cemeteries in Warren, Bristol County. I am looking for my PAILTHORPs who arrived between 1851 and 1869. I am looking for death/burial dates for: Sewell PAILTHORP, who was 54 on the 1870 US census for Warren; born 1816, Belper, Derbyshire and resided in Stalybridge, Cheshire, England before immigrating to the US. Sewell's wife, Jane (Crossley) PAILTHORP, who was also 54 on the 1870 US census for Warren; born 1820 in Hempsall, Yorkshire, resided in Stalybridge, Cheshire, England before immigrating to the US with her husband and children. The children of this couple who also immigrated are: Eliza (Pailthorp) BRADBURY, b. 1837, husband James William Henry PAILTHORP, b. 1840 George PAILTHORP, b. 1842 Elias PAILTHORP, b. 1845 Hannibal/Arnold PAILTHORP, b. 1854 Some of these families also lived in Pawtucket, Central Falls, and Providence after 1870. Sorry for the long post. I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching this family and also learn about the Warren area. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester Georgia, USA

There is a Roanoke River and a town named Roanoke Rapids ... there's a Roanoke Co, VA.... ----- Original Message ----- From: <AlRose509@aol.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Re: Al Rose Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Sisfeather@msn.com writes: > Here is my question, was there ever a Roanoke Co. N.C. that you know of? > --------------- > Never. > The only thing close in spelling would be Rowan County in the west-center > of > the state. > > Roanoke Island is coastal and a more likely origin for someone ending up > in > Swansey. > > Al Rose

Hi Cousin Ron, Jane is a member of this mailing list, so she might just spot your message! But here's her website where you can buy a copy (2 volumes) for yourself if you want. http://www.genbooks.com/index.htm Or, check with your local library because it is in many genealogical collections, or might be available via Interlibrary Loan from another library. Finally, I own both volumes and would be more than happy to do look-ups! Judy Anthony Houston, Texas On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:38:55 -0500 "RONALD BARTLETT" <RonBart12@msn.com> wrote: > Judy, How do I get in touch with "Jane Fiske" who has the genealogy >of the RI Cook's? My grandmother was part of the RI Cook's from the >Tiverton, Little Compton, Newport area. > > Ron Bartlett > ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judy Anthony<mailto:judya@hal-pc.org> > To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > > > And I learned from Jane Fiske's wonderful genealogy of the Rhode > Island Cook family that there is a whole branch of the family that > went south (and stayed in the south) around the time of the > Revolution. > > Loyalists and Loyalist-leaning families didn't just go to Canada. > They headed south, too. > > Judy Anthony > Houston, Texas

Judy, How do I get in touch with "Jane Fiske" who has the genealogy of the RI Cook's? My grandmother was part of the RI Cook's from the Tiverton, Little Compton, Newport area. Ron Bartlett ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Anthony<mailto:judya@hal-pc.org> To: RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RIGENWEB] Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? And I learned from Jane Fiske's wonderful genealogy of the Rhode Island Cook family that there is a whole branch of the family that went south (and stayed in the south) around the time of the Revolution. Loyalists and Loyalist-leaning families didn't just go to Canada. They headed south, too. Judy Anthony Houston, Texas On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Arlene Haddock <mahaddock@yahoo.com<mailto:mahaddock@yahoo.com>> wrote: > There are many R.I. names and families that migrated > south along the seacoast. Many of these families were > mariners and traded along the coast. I cite the > Hazard family for one. I lived in SC for five years > and reveled in the history and families of the state. > The Hazard name was there and I did not realize it was > the R.I. Hazards. I believe they married into a > family with the name Peace as a first or last name. > New Jersey also became the home of some Clarkes, > Palmers, Gardiners/Gardners, Bretts. So don't be > surprised to find other R.I. families in the southern > states. > > Arlene Haddock > > --- AlRose509@aol.com<mailto:AlRose509@aol.com> wrote: > >> In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:35:19 AM Eastern >> Standard Time, >> MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net<mailto:MSDFIELDS@earthlink.net> writes: >> Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? >> >> How common a migration pattern is this? >> ----------------- >> I was surprised to learn that it was not uncommon at >> all. Born in RI, I now >> live in Cumberland county, NC and see RI names here >> even today. Tillinghast >> stands out but there were several others here prior >> to civil war. So I wouldn't >> be surprised at all. Further, migration from western >> counties of NC to TN was >> quite common. >> >> Al Rose >> >> >> ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== >> Providence County RIGenWeb >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~riprovid/> >> Submit your Rhode Island Query at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/queries.html> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Bristol County RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ribristo/> > RI Cemeteries Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/cemetery/> > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html> RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm>

In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Sisfeather@msn.com writes: Here is my question, was there ever a Roanoke Co. N.C. that you know of? --------------- Never. The only thing close in spelling would be Rowan County in the west-center of the state. Roanoke Island is coastal and a more likely origin for someone ending up in Swansey. Al Rose

You may also want to check at Relative Genetics.com to see if they have a project for your surname. They are an alternative to Family Tree dna. You can take your test results from any project and enter them into the database at ybase. Don Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wright" <wmewrght@hal-pc.org> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] DNA Testing for Field/Fields > >Debbie wrote: > > Am I to the point that DNA testing is worth doing? Anyone have > experience with this? > > Thanks! > > Debbie > > I am a fan of DNA testing. I recommend that anyone serious about their > family origins join one of the DNA family surname projects. > > Myself and two Wright "cousins" have been tested and resolved > conflicting claims arising from descendants of multiple William Wrights > who lived near each other. > > Looking at two RI families in which I am interested because my family > claimed a relationship to Commodore Perry and General Greene, as many > others also claim, DNA testing can prove or disprove this relationship. > > Greene. A distant cousin of the general has been tested #27438, "Kelly > Greene." He is a descendant of John Greene of Warwick as General > Nathanael Greene was. The results can be viewed at > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greendna/> > > A Greene claiming a relationship to the general will have a DNA that > closely matches Kelly Greene. > > My third cousin surnamed Greene, a RI Greene descendant has been tested > #20192, "Robert Green." We probably have a non-paternal event in our > Greene line. I keep looking to find a match to Robert's DNA and that > will give us a clue as to our ancestral line. > > We need other RI Greene descendants to step forward and be tested. To > verify Kelly's descent from John of Warwick, but also to resolve the > question of the relationship of the two or three John Greenes who > immigrated to RI in the 1600s. > > Perry. There are two descendants of Edmund/Edward that have been tested > under the National Geographic Project. Edmund/Edward was the ancestor of > the commodores. A related person will have a DNA close to that of the > proven descendants of Edmund/Edward. > <http://www.perry-dna.org/pages/ydnaResultsFrameSet.html> > > The Fields project is just getting under way and so has only a few > participants. That only emphasizes the need for more people to join. > > To find your surname project go to > <http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.asp?ftdna_ref=199> Enter your surname > in the search box at the upper right of the screen. > > Bill Wright > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html

If you go to the US Gen Web site for NC, there is a succession of maps showing county formation from 1700 to the present day--I didn't see a Roanoke Co. in NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm Donna in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Costa" <Sisfeather@msn.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Al Rose Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > Hi Al, > Just saw your response about the migration pattern Rhode Island to N.C. > you mentioned that you live in N.C., I am hoping if it is not too much trouble , if you could answer a question for me? > > I found on a web site some information on my Cartwright ancestors the following : > > >>>> Daniel Cartwright1 (M) > #9937 > Daniel Cartwright married Mary Weaver, daughter of Peter Weaver, circa 1770; "M. about 1770." > > Children of Daniel Cartwright and Mary Weaver: > Peter Cartwright > Jonathan Cartwright > Daniel Cartwright > Benjamin Cartwright > John Cartwright ( - 1838) > Anna Cartwright > Phebe Cartwright > > "Came from Roanoke Co. N.C. to Swansey, Mass." "These two families never lived on Nantucket." [Marginal note.]. <<<<<<< > > Here is my question, was there ever a Roanoke Co. N.C. that you know of? > > I have not been able to find anything about it online, only Roanoke Island. > According to the web site information both my ancestor Daniel and his brother Benjamin are said to have drowned at N.C. around 1805-1807. > All the information I found there matched what I had found and pieced together on my own, This Roanoke information was new to me . > Below is what was said about the information at that site. > > If you could be of any help to me I would sure appreciate it. > Thanks . > Hoping to hear from you. > Marge > > The Eliza Starbuck Barney Genealogical Record, the most reliable genealogy for Nantucket families for the seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, contains vital information on more than 40,000 Nantucketers. This nineteenth -century manuscript comprising more than one thousand pages. > > > **For God so loved the world that He sent His only son that all who believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16** > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html > RIGenWeb Surname And Query List http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm

I live in NC too... if there was a Roanoke County, it had to be a long time ago... Check this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm I'd do it but my eye sight is bad today. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Costa" <Sisfeather@msn.com> To: <RIGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: [RIGENWEB] Al Rose Re: Rhode Island to North Carolina?!? > Hi Al, > Just saw your response about the migration pattern Rhode Island to N.C. > you mentioned that you live in N.C., I am hoping if it is not too much > trouble , if you could answer a question for me? > > I found on a web site some information on my Cartwright ancestors the > following : > >>>>> Daniel Cartwright1 (M) > #9937 > Daniel Cartwright married Mary Weaver, daughter of Peter Weaver, circa > 1770; "M. about 1770." > > Children of Daniel Cartwright and Mary Weaver: > Peter Cartwright > Jonathan Cartwright > Daniel Cartwright > Benjamin Cartwright > John Cartwright ( - 1838) > Anna Cartwright > Phebe Cartwright > > "Came from Roanoke Co. N.C. to Swansey, Mass." "These two families never > lived on Nantucket." [Marginal note.]. <<<<<<< > > Here is my question, was there ever a Roanoke Co. N.C. that you know of? > > I have not been able to find anything about it online, only Roanoke > Island. > According to the web site information both my ancestor Daniel and his > brother Benjamin are said to have drowned at N.C. around 1805-1807. > All the information I found there matched what I had found and pieced > together on my own, This Roanoke information was new to me . > Below is what was said about the information at that site. > > If you could be of any help to me I would sure appreciate it. > Thanks . > Hoping to hear from you. > Marge > > The Eliza Starbuck Barney Genealogical Record, the most reliable genealogy > for Nantucket families for the seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth > centuries, contains vital information on more than 40,000 Nantucketers. > This nineteenth -century manuscript comprising more than one thousand > pages. > > > **For God so loved the world that He sent His only son that all who > believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16** > > > ==== RIGENWEB Mailing List ==== > Search the RIGenWeb Mailing List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/mailsrch.html > RIGenWeb Surname And Query List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~riwashin/state/qryindex.htm > >