Hi John, No, I don't mind whatever you choose to do. However, you do not have all the information I have and what's out there now is not complete. If you will send me your snail mail address, I'll give you what you are asking for. My records are from wills, marriage records, censuses and personal correspondence with living Riddle relatives and their family records. None is from the LDS which I find not too reliable unless they provide also the legal documents that support their assertions. I could send them anything and they would pass it on without verifying anything. Don't forget, I'm not sure of your John (Lewis) Riddle as I've never seen him listed anywhere with the middle name LEWIS. In William Riddel, Sr.s will he names all his children by both marriages. There is a John Riddle. In your post you named him John Lewis Riddle, Sr. b: May 05, 1804 and I don't believe I said that. I believe I named him John Riddle, b: 1802 and I did not have a date of death for him. Following where you state "(per Mr. Divine, William had 6 other offspring by Hannah):, I didn't say that either. I said "They had 9 children that I know of". Then I listed my ancestor, James Lewis Riddle and some information about him and his wife Sarah Ann Bramblett. I hereby disavow any agreement with the "taken together" listing. Per William Riddel Sr.'s will filed in the Scott County Court House in Georgetown, Kentucky, his wife and children were: " I give and bequeath to my wife Hannah Riddle"..."to my son John Riddle & daughter Polly Caldwell (children by a former wife), ...."my children by my present wife (to wit) William Riddle, Benjamin Riddle, Sally Thomas, Louisa Luttrall, Anderson Riddle, Merit Riddle, George Riddle, Lavina Riddle & James W. Lewis Riddle". These are the two children by his first wife, Flizabeth McCamack and the nine (9) children by his second wife, Hannah. I do not know her maiden name. According to the death notice for William Riddle, died September 07, 1859 in Scott County, KY, on file at the Kentucky historical Society in Frankfort, Kentucky, William Riddle was born in Fauquier County, Virginia and his occupation was a cooper. I have copies of marriage bonds in Fauquier County for three children of William and Elizabeth L. Riddle (the parents of William Riddle b. 1777). They were William m. Betsey (Elizabeth) McCamack (father: Henry McCamack), bond dated October 29, 1798; Betsey Riddle m. Reubin Corbin, bond dated January 26, 1801; and Katy Riddle m. Cornelius Anderson, bond dated September 6, 1790. I have a copy of the marriage bond December 24, 1807 for the marriage of William Riddel, Sr.(father of William Riddle b. 1777, second marriage) to Jemima Latham. (Please note the date of 1807)! Through census records and family records: John Riddle m. Martha Commack August 26, 1827, Owen County, KY. Mary A (Polly) Riddle m. D. D. Caldwell (date and place not verified). William Riddle b.1806 m. Nancy Coburn December 23, 1842. Benjamin Riddle b.1809 m. Acka ?. Anderson Riddle b.1814 m. Martha Jane Offutt. Merit Riddle b.March 26, 1818 m. Permelia M. Estes August 3, 1853. George Riddle b.1820 m. Susana Donovan. Lavina Riddle b.1822 m. John J. Maddox July 9, 1853. James W. Lewis Riddle b.1824 m. Sarah Ann Bramblett February 3, 1848, Owen County. Sally Riddle b.1834 m. ------ Thomas. Louisa Riddle b.1836 m. John Luttrell. To answer a question: Yes researchers do often withhold sharing their information for various reasons. (One good reason is to be sure their research information is provided by themselves and reflect accurately their work , whether their work is correct or incorrect). To answer a question: William, b.1777 was born in Fauquier County, Virginia. My William Riddel is NOT the one born in Brunswick County, Virginia. The August 13, 1850 Owen County, Kentucky census on line 22 lists a Lorenzo D. Riddle as a 7 year old son of John Riddle ( whom this record says he was born in KY). It shows John as Age 48. It also lists: Martha, age 47; William, age 23; Louisa(?) J, age 21; Garrison(?) R., age 19; John S(?), age 17; Thomas H., age 15; Martha, age 13; Catharine, age 11; James G., age 9; and Larenzo D., age 7. I do have Riddle / Bramblett relationships which I'll save for another time. Certainly I'll be happy to provide you with the documentation I have accumulated so long as it pertains to the ancestors of John Riddle the son of William Riddle and Elizabeth McCamack. You have never told how you learned the name of John LEWIS Riddle and the date and place of birth. Will you share this with me. My research in most all cases was obtained by myself at the site of the source available. Lots of travel and lots of time. I could not download the attachments. Not enough memory left. This is getting long and I'm tiring out. (I'm not young, you know). Let me hear from you. Gene Divine e-mail at aedreddivine@hcnews.com 713 Aqua Vista Drive Granbury, TX 76049-1608 (817) 279-6347